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Jim Barr 生涯 http://www.thebaseballcube.com/players/B/Jim-Barr.shtml ※ 引述《VaROne ()》之銘言: : http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=30 : The Legend of Jim Barr : and how he relates to Brian Anderson : The Giants recently traded for Robb Nen, putting to rest the rumors that : Julian Tavarez would have to be the team's closer in 1998. Nen struck out 81 : batters in 74 innings last season, and has struck out more than a batter per : inning throughout his major-league career. : The alternative, Julian Tavarez, is three years younger than Nen, and struck : out 38 batters last year in 88.1 innings. Bluntly, that's not a very good : ratio of K to IP. : Why should this matter, and what does it tell us about Arizona's #1 draft : pick, Brian Anderson? Strikeouts per se aren't important; they're only : minutely better than other outs, at the most. But what they indicate about a : pitcher is always important. A pitcher who can strike out a high rate of : batters is capable of dominating those hitters. Now, if he also walks a : zillion guys, or he gives up a million homers, or he just stinks period, then : it doesn't matter how many he strikes out. But it indicates the potential for : domination because he can consistently fool a good number of major league : batters. : It's very hard for a pitcher to be successful without striking out a decent : number of batters. Pitchers who go 14-5 one season but don't strike out many : batters are often the ones who have "disappointing" seasons the next year. : Maybe the strikeouts measure "potential for dominance" or something. To be : honest, I don't really know, but we do know that they correlate nicely with : future success. : This might not seem obvious at first, because great pitchers who don't : strike out tons of guys still strike out more hitters than we think. Greg : Maddux doesn't strike out lots of guys compared to studs like Pedro Martinez : or Randy Johnson, for instance, and we know what a brilliant finesse pitcher : he can be, so we tend to think of him as something other than a "power : pitcher." But Maddux, now in his 30s, still struck out 6.8 batters per 9 : innings last year. When you think of Greg Maddux, you should think of a : pitcher who gets people out, not merely a guy who throws puffballs with : perfect placement, living off of his defense. Obviously, Greg Maddux is not : an example of a low-strikeout pitcher who is nonetheless successful. : Eventually a pitcher begins to age and their K/IP ratios start to drop. And : here's why a young pitcher with a low K/IP is unlikely to have a long career. : Because if you start out striking out a batter an inning, when you get old : you'll still strike out 7 per 9 innings, and you can still dominate at that : level. But if you start out at 5-per-9, when you fade, you'll be down to : 3-per-9 innings, and there just aren't any guys out there who can be : consistently successful while striking out 3 guys per 9 innings. So the : pitchers who will have the longest careers, all else being equal, are the : power pitchers (which we identify partly by their number of strikeouts). The : other guys are already walking a tightrope, one that power pitchers won't : walk until later in their career. When the power pitcher is 30, he'll have to : learn how to pitch differently, but when the other guys are 30, they'll be : out of the league. They don't have the margin for error that the power : pitchers have. : That is, Julian Tavarez is unlikely to have a long career unless there's : some reason we haven't thought of for why he throws so hard (power pitcher) : but strikes out so few (not a power pitcher). : Giants fans are often reminded of the career of Jim Barr, who is supposed to : be a counter-example to the above argument. Barr didn't strike anyone out but : he had a nice long career. How do you explain that? : Well, Barr makes my point: he was a fine, even masterful, pitcher with great : control whose career lasted *only* 12 seasons because once the fade started, : he had nothing to fall back on. Through 1976, Barr had gone 62-63 with fine : ERAs (three times under 3.00) for some bad teams. Entering the 1977 season he : was 29 years old, coming off a 15-12 2.89 season. His control was so good : he'd led the NL in BB/IP once. He had that record ... what was it, : consecutive batters retired? This was a guy who you'd think was a fine : pitcher. : His K/9 in 1976: 2.7. His record in 1977: 12-16 4.77. : He stuck around five more seasons without much success. If we'd thought : about baseball in 1977 the way we think about baseball in 1997, we would have : looked at that K/9 and said "this guy has gotten pretty much everything he : can out of his abilities, he's a prime candidate for a fall." We didn't think : that way then, but we do now. : What does this have to do with the Arizona Diamondbacks? Young lefty Brian : Anderson struck out 22 batters in 48 innings last year. He has made 58 : major-league appearances so far, 53 as a starter, and his K/IP ratios have : been very consistent: : 1993: 3.2 (11.1 innings) : 1994: 4.2 (101.2 innings) : 1995: 4.1 (99.2 innings) : 1996: 3.7 (51.1 innings) : 1997: 4.1 (48 innings) : Very consistent, and not very good. If Jim Barr is any indication, by the : time the Diamondbacks are good enough to contend (let's be optimistic and say : three years), Brian Anderson will be doing mop-up chores out of the bullpen. : Which is why you can count me as one person who thinks Tony Saunders (8.2 K/9 : last year) makes a better #1 pick than Brian Anderson. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.113.195.195