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[洋基] Bill Madden: Prospects brighten
http://www.nydailynews.com/11-05-2002/sports/col/madden/story/423322p-357264c.html

Prospects brighten
As Yanks think young, hope grows on farm

Ah, the exuberance of youth.
哇~充滿了年輕朝氣

It is something the Yankees have experienced all too infrequently in recent
years (Robby Cano and Chien-Ming Wang last year, Melky Cabrera this year) and
almost none at all through the draft.
這是洋基隊近幾年來不常有的經驗 (去年的Cano 王建民 今年的Melky Cabrera)
而且幾乎沒有透過選秀

But as GM Brian Cashman so noted in his inaugural address as head of all
baseball operations last winter, the Yankees can no longer slough off one
fruitless draft after another. They have to start developing more of their
own talent - as they did when the Bill Livesey-directed farm system delivered
the nucleus of the '96-'00 championship teams in Derek Jeter, Andy Pettitte,
Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada and Bernie Williams and the pieces it took to
get Paul O'Neill, Tino Martinez and David Cone, among others. Since '93, the
year Livesey left, the Yankees have failed to produce a single impact player
out of the draft - a fact that was further magnified this past week when they
went into Detroit and got their first look at Joel Zumaya, the Tigers'
21-year-old set-up reliever whose fastball regularly tops off at 100 mph-plus.
 This, a couple of weeks after the Yankees got their first look at the Red
Sox's wunderkind, rookie closer Jonathan Papelbon.
但去年冬天 總經理現金人著手洋基各機構運作的就職演說宣示
洋基將不再放棄一次又一次沒營養的選秀  他們要開始培養自己的好手
就像'96-'00冠軍隊時Bill Livesey領導農場挖掘出 Derek Jeter, Andy Pettitte,
Mariano Rivera, Jorge Posada and Bernie Williams
也找來像Paul O'Neill, Tino Martinez and David Cone等等
但自從'93年之後(Livesey離開) 洋基就沒有從選秀中培養出任何一位有影響的選手
這個現象在這星期到Detroit客場比賽中更明顯
看看老虎隊的Joel Zumaya 21歲的set-up中繼投手 球速可達100多
還有幾星期前 洋基看到了紅襪的神奇小子 菜鳥終結者Jonathan Papelbon

In both cases - Papelbon a fourth-round pick in 2003 and Zumaya an 11th-round
pick in '02 - the Yankees' Tampa-based scouting and player development people
passed, while producing nothing with their picks. Now, granted, so did plenty
of other clubs, but here's what has really rankled the New York faction of
the Yankee high command: In '02, the Tampa braintrust selected a Santa Fe,
N.M. high school pitcher named Brandon Weeden with their No. 1 pick and Estee
Harris, a high school outfielder from Central Islip, with their second. Both
bombed out, as did the entire 50-player draft with the exception of lefty
Brad Halsey (9th round), who made it to the Bronx for a brief so-so stint
before being traded as part of the Randy Johnson deal with Arizona. Indeed,
the litany of top-pick busts since Jeter in '92 - the David Parrishes, David
Wallings, Andrew Browns, etc. - is so embarrassing that it's a wonder they
still bother to list them in their press guide. And last year's No. 1
- shortstop C.J. Henry, who was taken over St. John's closer Craig Hansen -
appears to be no exception, batting .228 with 16 errors at Class-A.
這兩個例子 Papelbon 2003年第四輪被選上 Zumaya2002年第11輪
兩位都是洋基Tampa基地球探和人事發展部門忽略掉沒有選的球員 就像其他很多球隊一樣
但真正讓紐約球隊高層派系鬥爭心碎的是
'02年Tampa首腦信任派在第一輪挑了Santa Fe,N.M.高中投手 Brandon Weeden
第二輪挑了Central Islip地區高中外野手 Estee Harris 兩位都被釋出
除了 Brad Halsey(第九輪)曾上到洋基有過短暫平凡表現之外
(後來被當為RJ交易中的一部分)  其他五十位球員也都被釋出
除了在'92年第一輪挑到Jeter之外
其他像David Parrishes, David Wallings, Andrew Browns,等等
--真是尷尬還把這些名字列在媒體(??不懂??是這些人都不在棒球圈了嗎?)
而去年第一輪選中的游擊手C.J. Henry也不例外 在1A打擊率.228有16次失誤

But take heart, Yankee legions, youth may once again be served at a Stadium
near you, even perhaps before the new stadium near you. While acknowledging
the Yankees have done a terrible job in the draft for more than a decade,
Cashman, who will oversee this year's draft next week in Tampa for the first
time, says Yankee fans should be heartened by the way international
free-agent signings - Cano and Cabrera - have come up and filled needs. And
the GM insists there are some real prospects in the lower echelon of the
Yankee farm system, one of whom, 17-year-old Venezuelan outfielder Jose
Tabata, has been likened to a "Manny Ramirez-type" hitter by rival scouts.
......(太難了 不懂....)
了解洋基過去十年培育農場的恐怖表現之後
現金人將在下星期要到Tampa視察今年的選秀
表示洋基球迷應該會對在國際自由球員市場的收穫感到滿意
Cano和Cabrera已經上來填補需求(啊?把咱們家小王放那兒去了?)
而且總經理堅持在洋基低階農場有些好的潛力新秀 例如
17歲的委內瑞拉外野手 Jose Tabata (被死對頭球探評為"Manny Ramirez-type" 的打者)

"I admit, a couple of years ago, our system was probably about the 25th-30th
in baseball," Cashman said, "which was the result of poor drafts, trades,
injuries and the lack of development. But now we're probably in the middle of
the pack, from Double-A down. We've still got a ways to go, and we need to have
 a good draft this year, but we've got some really impressive young players
coming now. I've especially been encouraged with two pitchers at Trenton,
(righty starter) Steven White, who was hurt most of last year but who's
throwing 91-93 now with a good curve and changeup, and (righty reliever) T.J.
Beam, who's been overwhelming the Eastern League (0.88 ERA, 26 hits in 41
innings). Could they help us this year if needed? I wouldn't want to go that
far, but I wouldn't rule it out either."
現金人說"我承認 幾年前 我們的系統由於選秀爛 交易 受傷 和欠缺發展
大概是棒球界中25-30名 但現在我們大概在中段2A以下都不錯 我們仍然有辦法繼續
今年我們需要有好的選秀 但我們已經擁有一些令人印象深刻的年輕球員
我特別對於2A的兩位投手印象深刻-右投Steven White去年大半時間受傷
但有很好的91-93的曲球和變速球  和右投中繼投手T.J. Beam 他主宰了東部聯盟
 (0.88 ERA, 26 hits in 41 innings) 今年如果有需要他們能幫上忙嗎
我不願想那麼遠 但也不排除這個可能性

At the lower level, Cashman is especially pumped up about Tabata, who is so
advanced as a hitter, the Yankees skipped him over the rookie leagues to
Class-A Charleston, where he was hitting .335 with 41 RBI in 45 games, and
center fielder Brett Gardner, a prototypical leadoff hitter batting .335 with
a .450 on-base percentage and 22 steals at Class-A Tampa.
在低階 現金人特別提到 Tabata 一個領先的打者
洋基讓他跳過菜鳥聯盟直接進入1A Charleston 在45場比賽中 打擊率.335 41分打點
以及中外野手Brett Gardner 一個首棒打者的典範 在1A Tampa
打擊率.335 上壘率.450 22次盜壘

"I'm obviously very encouraged with the way our system has delivered for us
this year and last," Cashman said. "I've said all along we have to get
younger and cheaper and we're starting to do that with guys like Robby, Melky
and Andy Phillips and low-level trades for guys like (Shawn Chacon)."
現金人說"我特別對我們系統去年和今年的運作表現感到振奮
我已經一再表示我們需要年輕便宜的好手
我們已經有了像Robby, Melky和Andy Phillips等好手 還有低階交易像Shawn Chacon
(嗚.....為什麼又忘記咱們台灣阿民?)

Only problem is, with the Yankees' injuries seemingly spiraling out of control,
 the system has helped out about as much as it can for the near term, and any
time Cashman seeks to make even a low-level trade, the immediate asking price
is Tabata, White, Beam, Gardner or top pitching prospect Philip Hughes, who's
at Charleston and is at least two years away.
唯一的問題是 洋基隊的傷兵已經蔓延到無法控制 而這個系統已經幫上一些忙
而且現金人也尋求一些低階的交易 被詢問價格包括Tabata, White, Beam, Gardner
或頂級新秀投手 Philip Hughes

以下恕刪

Originally published on June 4, 2006




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※ 編輯: rresonance      來自: 61.229.114.217       (06/05 22:02)
推 hail0606:期待洋基的農場...^^
推 greengreen42:因為王建民不年輕
推 MMCloud:Phillips還比小王年長一些，只能說是記者忘了 Orz
→ MMCloud:翻譯辛苦了！希望小朋友們都能快快長大呀～
推 schumache:不要交易Hughes啊.......
推 aultra:Wang當時的簽約金不低 所以Yanks其實不算撿到便宜
推 hpk89:Wang有長出來洋基就已經算撿到便宜了. 簽約金也才2M
→ hpk89:不然像王這樣表現的3~5號先發, 若是自由球員可能< 2M/yr 嗎?
→ hpk89:更何況王還可以讓洋基用0.3M玩好幾年, 只要他不受傷
→ hpk89:用一個更簡單的算法, 如果一個20W的大投手10M/yr算值得的話
→ hpk89:平均1W約值0.5M  這樣Wang上MLB已有13W共值6.5M
→ hpk89:洋基付給Wang也才2M+0.3M*2+不值一提的小聯盟薪水,不算便宜?
→ hpk89:更不用說20W的投手遠超過10M, 王再投三年也不只13W而已
推 hpk89:講到這我就要再戳一下Pavano, 洋基這兩年可能花20M得到4W
→ hpk89:平均1W高達5M, 反觀Wang直到成為自由球員可能都花不到洋基5M
推 ypwang:有很棒的想法  其實可以用回文啊...(我是對買誰沒涉獵)
推 HOPEFIRE:給2M的簽約金可不會是希望只長成3~5號先發= =
推 hpk89:簽這種當然不會希望只是3~5先發, 但是只要是站穩MLB球隊都賺
→ hpk89:成為Ace球隊則是大賺 就像你買200萬買樂透一定希望能中大獎
→ hpk89:而不會只希望中個500萬吧? 但是要是不如你預期只中500萬
→ hpk89:那你是賺還是賠?? 還是賺阿, 只是沒大賺而已..
→ hpk89:簽農場就跟買樂透一樣阿... 大部分的簽都是不會有回收的..
推 eyelace:可能要跟其他新興野手的簽約金比較吧
推 MMCloud:王的簽約金已經是第一輪新秀等級 甚至還比有些第一輪的高
推 Ivanliao:怎麼能拿簽約金跟薪水來比呢?
推 asdfzx:Pavano投一球的錢大概超越老克...........
推 steo:王建民應該算很高的,boss對選秀沒啥興趣付錢
推 f6487:根據撲猴子版79篇的消息~撲猴子的簽約金聽說才6萬~
→ f6487:簽到撲猴子才算是超級大樂透吧~
推 pathfinder:但憑良心講，洋基子民們，年輕好手也許會加入你旁邊的
→ pathfinder:另一個球場，或許甚至是在你旁邊的新球場蓋好以前。
→ pathfinder:沒翻的那一段我會這樣翻，Wang的簽約是頂級的了.......
推 pathfinder:別被國內一些經紀人的喇叭嘴唬到了 :)
推 Highbrow:New yong kid 囧
→ Highbrow:New York yong kid 囧
推 evilman:明星球員的身價不能用數據來算 吸引的球迷跟周邊產品
→ evilman:才是主要考量~勝敗場只是加速成名的東西
推 birdy590:第一輪簽下最後打不出東西回家吃自己的也不會少
→ birdy590:而且現在國際非選秀進來的簽約金泡沫也已經破掉一陣子了
→ birdy590:如果拿不到前面的 draft pick, 這點簽約金應該還算值得
推 MMCloud:沒有人說不直得 只是想說王已經是拿頂級簽約金了
推 szheng:王的簽約金是當時時空因素下的產物,現在很少會有這種價碼囉
※ 編輯: rresonance      來自: 61.229.98.225        (02/04 16:13)