看看一些國外歌迷對頭子吉他的看法：
@ James Dean Bradfield (Manics)is a better guitarist than Noel Gallagher.
That's a fact, not an opinion.
I think Noel is a decent guitarist who's made some great guitar solos in the
past.
@ I think this is unfair...since
James Dean Bradfield is naturally right handed
Noel Gallagher is, at the end of the day, a left handed person who had to
learn right handed
you try and learn guitar like that...its bloody hard, even just learning it
normally, never mind with your weaker side!!
(這個歌迷說想想 Noel 是左撇子卻學著用右手來彈吉他...這一點還滿不簡單的哩
對哦不知道這樣“顛倒”的學習對 Noel 來說到底是怎樣呢...)
@ Noel is no (Jimi Hendrix, Jimmy Page )but he is more of a song writer and
rhythm guitarist than an out and out solo player. He said in Q once that
Gem and Andy are actually far better guitar players than him but I still
havent really heard anything from Gem to prove he is any better than Noel
He hasnt written a solo like "Hotel California " recently has he?????
(Noel 和大師級的吉他手當然沒得比，他比較像是個[用吉他來創作]的寫歌人
以及節奏吉他手。這個歌迷還疑問起 Gem 了，雖然說 Noel 一直說 Gem 和 Andy
比他強很多，但是 Gem 好像還沒表現出來？)
@ Techinically Noel isn't brilliant, but the way he puts such simple things
and little tricks together shows a great understanding of the Guitar and of
his own abillity, on Ability vs results, Noel is possibly the best ever,
ie Hendrix was great, but did he play within him self?
(技巧上 Noel 根本不算哪根蔥，但是他能夠找出自己的方式把極簡單的東西和一些
小小的技巧融合在一起，表現出對吉他這項樂器的了解還有對自己能力的了解,
就呈現的整體效果來說，Noel 可能是最棒的。)
@ why does the way he learned have anythin to do with it? yeah, guitar
learnin/playin is hard in itself but its not like he was FORCED into playing
the way he does. thats wrong. noel would have learnt the most comfortable way
cuz anythin else is just stupid...unless he was copyin lennon which wouldnt
surprise me.
as for his ability its pretty standard. not good, not bad. hes good at making
simple stuff sound effective. take for example the "3 note solo" on scyho.
effective but rediculously easy.
oh yeah, by the way, i thought paul weller played lead guitar on champagne
supernova. i like the way someone credited on of THE BEST guitar parts
oasis have to noel when it was someone else! thats funny. i dunno i could
be wrong.
(這位歌迷首先質疑其實左撇子學吉他應該也是“自然”的選擇正常的吉他把位
Noel 應該不會強迫自己用不舒服的姿勢學琴，除非他刻意和 Lennon 一樣
[原來 Lennon 也是左撇子學吉他哦！？]
另外他認為頭子吉他還過得去，不特好也不特壞，不過倒真是會用簡單的東西
達到效果，他舉例像 SCYHO 的“三音符 solo”雖然和整首歌滿搭調的
但是也簡單的太誇張了吧
最後他疑問 Champagne Supernova 的 solo 到底是不是 Paul Weller 彈的
因為他常聽歌迷讚美這首歌的 solo，似乎是美麗的誤會？)
@ not a great guitarist and hes never made out to be one, been playing guitar
for a year and a half now and i can do most of his solo's so they cant be
that hard although the live forever solo is one of the best guitar solo's
ever in my book
(這位歌迷說他自己學吉他才一年半就會彈大部分 Oasis 的 solo
所以就高難度來講，Noel 從來不是個棒的吉他手。
不過他倒是說 Live Forever 的 solo 是他自己覺得最棒的之一)
@ What about the jam at the end of "gas panic" all Noel is doing is using his
"FLANGER" pedal and his reverb & feedback to make his favoured sound
( In "Roll it over" and "Little by little" he uses a very similar sound.
But it isnt hard to do in anyway at all (Sounds good though!!)
I think even Noel would admit when it comes to lead guitar playing he is
not even in the same league as his idols (Dave gilmour, Jimmy page etc)
(這位歌迷說明 Noel 很愛某種特定的效果，在數首歌中都有用到
但其實那是一種做起來還滿簡單的效果，只不過聽起來不錯！
還有他認為即使 Noel 也不會把自己放到和那些偶像吉他手一樣的高度吧)
@ i don't think i'd be surprised. noel's not a great guitarist. he's very good
in several areas, his touch is fantastic, he has an excellent vibrato, and
excellent pitch. that's why he pulls off those unison bends so well that
you rarely hear from other guitarists. And yes, paul weller only handles
lead on the second four bars of the supernova solo. listen for the tone,
his is very distinctive.
please don't mention the jam on gas panic as great guitar. someone really
needs to hear a little stevie ray i'm afraid. sliding a bottleneck up and
down the neck randomly and hitting random strings is hardly great guitar.
(哦這位歌迷提到 Noel 當然不是個偉大的吉他手，但是在幾個領域他彈得還滿好的
不過有些是吉他的術語，我就不十分清楚該怎麼翻譯了...
touch =?
vibrato =?
pitch =?
munison bends =?
另外他還說要聽真正好的 jam 要去聽 Stevie Ray 的;)
@ Hm, I don't get it. How did you come up with James B? Are you Manics fan?
Second, just cuz somebody knows all Noel's playing doesn't make him a bad
player. My brother can do all of Oasis, 90% of Manics, all of the Beatles
without looking at the notes, just by listening. It says nothing about the
musicians. The Beatles have tons of 2 chord songs but they are still one of
the best bands and their songs are tops. I don't like these kinds of
discussions. I want this deleted...LOL
Anyways, James B respects Noel greatly and...Yea! When he was asked about
the best gig he was ever @, he said the Main Road
(呵這位歌迷首先不瞭為什麼「狂街傳教士」的吉他手會被扯進來？
再來他覺得有人會彈 Noel 全部的 solo 也不代表他就是個爛的吉他手吧
他舉例他兄弟會彈 Oasis 的全部、Manics 的百分之九十，披頭的全部
都沒看譜完全用聽的抓，可是這又能幫以上三個團的樂手證明什麼？
披頭有一堆只有兩個和絃的歌但他們仍然是偉大的樂團，他們的歌還是超棒的啊;)
@ According to Noel the reason they wont be playing (Probably) All in the Mind
Live is because neither Gem or Noel could reproduce the solo that
Johnny Marr done.
(這不知是真是假，這位歌迷說他聽 Noel 說過 Oasis 現場之所以不表演
Probably All in the Mind 這首歌是因為不管是 Gem 或 Andy 沒辦法
再現 Johnny Marr 於專輯中跨刀彈的 solo？？？)
@ Several important things:
The melodic or musical value of a solo has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to do with
the technical ability and skill required to play it.
Unison bends are not difficult to play AT ALL.
Noel has never done anything I would consider even remotely challenging.
This is not to imply that he is a bad guitarist, but simply that he is not
great. This has nothing to do with how he is as a writer and a musician,
but is rather an unbiased analysis based on observation.
(我覺得他綠字部分說得滿好的：
「solo [在歌曲裡的]的旋律性或音樂性價值和彈奏所需的技巧和能力一點關係也沒有。」
他覺得 Noel 基本上沒做過什麼有“挑戰性”的吉他功夫，
這並不代表他是個不好的吉他手，只不過不是棒的吉他手罷了。)
@ to whoever asked if hendrix playd within himself...
of corse he did he plays with more emotion than anyone.
noel aint a great player if u want great tecnical players then listen to
yngwie malmsteen.steve vai.joe satriani etc.. but id rather listen to noel
anyday cos they bore fuk outa me
(;))
@ fool on the hill you are completely right all these guitarist like satriani,
and malmsteen get shoved in my face constantly, and i'm like who cares.
They may play very complex guitar parts, but they can't write songs,
they're just boring as fuck. Thats why I like page and kirk hammett, they
incorporate their guitar playing into their songs. Its also the reason i
like noel, hes a songwriter first and foremost, hes not a shredder.
Noel Gallagher is a very good guitarist hes doing a damn sight better
than all the guitarists that are slating him on this board...
i'd call it jealousy
(這位歌迷覺得他比較佩服能把吉他活用到歌曲創作的人，
光是複雜的吉他技巧會讓他感到無聊...)
Cheers!
Patsy "Gallagher"
--
Your eyes
Are telling lines
from some of the stories on the way
It's so nice
--Thank You for the Good Times, Oasis
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