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作者: GY6 (HONDA) 看板: Phillies
標題: Re: [分析] 2011 Top 20 Prospects in Review
時間: Tue Aug 9 19:02:03 2011
隨便來聊一下小檸檬狀況。
先說,底下不少都是靠印象;
還有,除了這季初前20名,我後面會隨便挑幾個人來講講...
: 1) Domonic Brown, OF, Grade A:.337/.447/.554 in 83 minor league at-bats
: split between Triple-A Lehigh Valley and injury rehab with High-A Clearwater.
: Hitting .246/.335/.393 with 25 walks, 34 strikeouts in 183 major league
: at-bats. He'll be fine, he just needs to play.
: 評:好
不知道有沒有人在觀察小聯盟動態?
Dom最近很妙,球團把他排在固定"LF"先發,
嘛...理由倒也不難猜,現在右外野有了Pence,喇喔明年掰,剛好頂上去,
只是有個問題就是....
平常守慣的右外野都守的不怎麼樣了,何況是左外野呢,
雖說左外野守備難度較低,但剛轉不久還是常搞笑,
就最近的觀察,都是用"悲劇"來形容...連接個高飛球都讓人覺得很抖...
不過我還是必須強調:其實他很有金手套的"本錢",
因為他有腿、有肩,剩下的就是判斷、傳球準度、接球方式等問題了...
: 2) Jonathan Singleton, 1B, Grade B+: Hitting .285/.383/.422 with 10 homers, 57
: walks, 92 strikeouts in 344 at-bats between High-A Clearwater and High-A
: Lancaster following trade to Houston Astros. Lots of walks, power hasn't fully
: developed yet.
: 評:掰
: 3) Brody Colvin, RHP, Grade B+: 4.25 ERA with 62/34 K/BB in 89 innings for
: Clearwater, 93 hits, 1.47 GO/AO. Not a great year, ratios deteriorating from
: Low-A.
: 評:鳥
(搖頭)
請陳瑞振來罵一下好了。
其實他七月有回升的fu,但八月這兩場又被炸到天邊。
(不過球速倒是沒掉...)
: 4) Jarred Cosart, RHP, Grade B: Traded to Astros. 3.92 ERA with 79/43 K/BB,
: 1.65 GO/AO in 108 innings for Clearwater before the trade, 98 hits. Pitched six
: shutout innings in Double-A debut following the trade. Electric stuff, still
: learning how to use it.
: 評:掰
: 5) Trevor May, RHP, Grade B: 3.40 ERA with 169/55 K/BB in 124 innings for
: Clearwater, 99 hits, 0.64 GO/AO. Outstanding strikeout rate. Command still
: needs some work, but his stock continues to rise.
: 評:K or BB
很...奇妙,我只能這麼說...
所謂"自己玩"類型的投手,
如果不改善保送率,未來堪虞,
但有個好跡象是:逐月有改善。
: 6) Jesse Biddle, LHP, Grade B: Struggled in April but has been strong ever
: since, overall 3.20 ERA, 109/59 K/BB in 113 innings for Low-A Lakewood, 92
: hits, just three homers. Needs to cut down the walks some but overall a fine
: full-season debut.
: 評:OK
又是個奇妙的仁兄,
先從他的球速講起,
他的球速之前曾提過掉很慘,
但後來卻又傳出球速衝到97MPH(其實沒人相信),
目前比較值得採信的說法是BA的消息,
那篇報導寫大概是"Low 90's"
最近狀況算是很不錯,只是很希望能把速球品質及球速穩定下來...
: 7) Sebastian Valle, C, Grade C+: Hitting .303/.329/.428, five homers, 10
: walks, 63 strikeouts in 290 at-bats for Clearwater. 33% of runners caught,
: passed ball and error rates much better than last year. I don't like the low
: walk rate, but he's making progress, particularly on defense, and is just 21.
: 評:BB在哪?
又來個奇怪的傢伙,
最近讓人比較擔心的是:未來之星後狀況跌很慘,
目前OPS只剩下.760,
但是呢....又有哪裡怪怪的...
打擊率下滑、純長打率下滑,
可是...保送竟然"大幅"上升!?(會用"",是因為他本季296個打數裡,只出現"10"次保送)
明星賽前BB%約"1%"->157AB,2BB
賽後BB%約"5%"
(好,我知道都很低....)
那也沒聽說他有傷痛,目前猜測是特意要練選球,
因為他是典型的球來就打,講誇張點就是Guerrero那種根本不選球的打者
(好,我知道拿他跟Guerrero比,有點像香腸比雞腿...)
但Guerrero還碰得到,這傢伙是常常揮空三振,
講到這裡,搞不好有人會覺得像是金鳥風扇哥或Howard,但這兩位凹保送功力其實都很好
目前我看到最像的就是這位:Marcus Thames
不過....他是捕手,而且抓盜壘功力及守備功力其實都不錯,光是這樣就很夠了,
目前還是被期待為Ruiz接班人(而且才21歲)。
: 8) Domingo Santana, OF, Grade C+: Hitting .273/.345/.448 with seven homers, 28
: doubles, 23 walks, 114 strikeouts in 326 at-bats for Lakewood. Toolsy, just 19
: years old, but poor BB/K/AB ratio shows need for polish if he wants to succeed
: at higher levels.
: 評:天份
就...天份派
但是打的算蠻不錯的。
: 9) Vance Worley, RHP, Grade C+: Very successful in the majors: 2.35 ERA, 8-1
: record, 66/28 K/BB in 84 innings, 65 hits for the Phillies. I don't think he'll
: keep his ERA that low over a 200 inning season, but at worst he's going to be a
: fine inning-eater.
: 評:工具馬
大家都很熟
: 10) Julio Rodriguez, RHP, Grade C+: 14-6, 3.03 with a 119/48 K/BB in 122
: innings for Clearwater, 84 hits. He deserved more respect pre-season (Baseball
: America ranked him at number 25 in the system) and he should get it now.
: 評:沒愛
又來個怪咖orz
先來點八卦:
今年開季時,Clearwater先發五虎將是:
Colvin、Cosart、May、Pettibone、Rodriguez,
前四個人很要好,很愛一起打打鬧鬧跟講肖話,投球風格也比較相近,
但是Rodriguez就有點被鬼隱了...原因倒也不是難相處,
Pettibone曾提過,可能是國籍不同(Rodriguez是波多黎各人),加上口袋深度有差,
所以彼此間有種隔閡...
回到球場上表現,理論上他在FSL的各數據排名(ERA第7,局數第5,WHIP第2,三振第2)
(還有個不怎麼重要的:目前15勝是FSL第1,也是費城人小聯盟投手最多的)
應該讓他的評價很高啊...
但光看球速就讓人感到杯具,
他的球速只有86~88MPH(跟Biddle那種有爭議的不同,是真的只有這樣...),
一場比賽能上90MPH的頂多一兩顆,變化球就是靠一顆70~75MPH的大曲球,
而且說控球好,倒也不怎麼樣...
因為事實上,他都是靠塞的不錯的速球,在緊要時刻秀出大曲球讓打者揮空氣,
(杜福明的速差理論?)
也難怪數據一直不錯看,但就是不被看好...
不過我很佩服美帝養成功力,當年他17歲剛被選上時,球速多少?
82~84MPH
(....)
: 11) Cesar Hernandez, 2B, Grade C+: Hitting .252/.288/.320 with 18 steals, 18
: walks, 63 strikeouts in 341 at-bats for Clearwater. Effective glove and runs
: well, but lack of power and weak on-base skills hurt stock. Age 21, still has
: time to improve.
: 評:腿
不知道是不是因為一次跳兩級(從威廉波特到Clearwater),今年打的有夠爛...
: 12) Justin De Fratus, RHP, Grade C+: 2.10 ERA with 43/14 K/BB in 34 innings
: for Double-A Reading, 4.50 ERA with 32/8 K/BB in 26 innings for Lehigh Valley,
: 2.09 combined GO/AO. Strikeouts/grounders combination should make him useful
: bullpen arm.
: 評:牛
在3A吃鱉ing(不過最近狀況有好轉)。
主要是被打擊率太高了點...
: 13) Josh Zeid, RHP, Grade C+: 5.91 ERA with 60/28 K/BB in 67 innings for
: Reading and Corpus Christi combined following trade to Houston, 71 hits. I
: think he's capable of better, but will end up in relief, not starting.
: 評:掰
: 14) J.C. Ramirez, RHP, Grade C+: 4.63 ERA with 69/42 K/BB in 117 innings for
: Reading, 112 hits. I keep thinking he will do something, but it never seems to
: happen, and the low strikeout rate is not a good sign.
: 評:鳥
每次看到他出賽都讓我搖頭,感覺很有天份啊-只是沒辦法轉成實績。
不如轉RP碰碰運氣算了。
: 15) Perci Garner, RHP, Grade C+: Has pitched just 3.2 innings for Williamsport
: in the New York-Penn League, fanning four, walking three. Obviously we need
: more data here.
: 評:???
正從威廉波特以RP身份緩慢起步Orz
: 16) Austin Hyatt, RHP, Grade C+: 3.76 ERA with 143/41 K/BB in 124 innings for
: Reading, 106 hits. Love the K/BB, K/IP, and H/IP, but he gives up a lot of fly
: balls and homers, and is already 25 years old.
: 評:球很容易飛出去
講過了(明天又要先發了)。
: 17) Jiwan James, OF, Grade C: .281/.340/.389 with three homers, 31 walks, 98
: strikeouts, 22 steals in 416 at-bats for Clearwater. Still has remarkable
: tools, power has not developed yet. He has a very high ceiling. I'd give him a
: C+ at this point, high ceiling, still high risk.
: 評:天份
守備真的很殺,但也常被三振殺,
上個月打超好,八月到目前為止有點低潮。
: 18) Aaron Altherr, OF, Grade C: Just .211/.272/.272 in 147 at-bats for
: Lakewood. Sent down to Williamsport, hitting .280/.313/.435, seven walks, 33
: strikeouts, 14 steals in 168 at-bats. Like James, excellent tools but still
: unrefined.
: 評:天份
守備也超好,回威廉波特打小朋友打的蠻爽的。
(他一開始是在Lakewood,後來打太爛就被踢回威廉波特)
: 19) Leandro Castro, OF, Grade C: .277/.304/.481 with 10 homers, five walks, 33
: strikeouts, 10 steals in 231 at-bats. See a pattern? Power, speed, horrible
: plate discipline. On DL since late June
: 評:BB在哪?
就保送這問題很頭大...
: 20) Matt Rizzotti, 1B, Grade C: .290/.388/.506 with 20 homers, 64 walks, 104
: strikeouts in 393 at-bats for Reading. Have to like the power, but already 25
: years old.
: 評:老炮
誠心誠意地建議他轉隊。
隨便抓幾個人來看:
3A
Cody Overbeck(3B、1B):
打爆2A,但在3A被霸凌,而且通常都改站一壘。
(明年會是關鍵)
Carlos Rivero(3B):
從笑臉人流浪來費城人,卻打出點成績,
類似Overbeck,雖然長打力沒那麼誇張,但守備好很多,
最近因為霸茲進DL,被叫上3A,小樣本裡也是被殺很大。
(但他比Overbeck年輕個兩歲,現在才23歲)
Freddy Galvis(2B、SS):
我上次看到他美技的影片,彷彿看到Jimmy Rollins...
守備達人加腿哥,但打擊只算是管小槍,偶爾會變沙漠之鷹(2A時),
目前在3A(小樣本)持續當沒選球沒炮瓦的小槍。
Michael Schwimer(RP):
沒愛沒機會(63.1IP 46H(4HR) 20BB 82SO WHIP1.04 ERA1.88)。
速球大概有92~95,主要是顆很殺的滑球(82~85)打天下。
Scott Mathieson(SP):
最近都當先發,今天來個7IP 4H(1HR) 8K的好表現,
球速還是很快,但是變化球還是不太行。
Mike Zagurski(RP):
3A霸主...
Phillippe Aumont(RP):
很有希望上來觀光(13.2IP 12H(0HR) 6BB 24SO WHIP1.32 ERA1.98)
球速在95上下,搭配一顆78~80的曲球,看過他出賽的都說:讚!
(最近開始分攤Closer工作)
Joe Savery(RP):
球速在90~93,主要是當左殺,看起來狀況不錯(也被期待拉上來投投看)。
Aaron Heilman(RP)(我不知道該不該列他...):
剛來時炸很兇,但最近狀況不差,
會列他是因為很多人都說他的變速、滑球都投的很好...有在梅子時期的fu
不過海公公...還是算了吧,有個Herndon,又有個力矩已經夠不爽了...
2A
Derrick Mitchell(CF):
2A主炮(17轟),但有點老了(24歲),
選球有點弱,但長打力很強(而且是CF)
Steve Susdorf(1B、LF、RF):
機槍(打擊率高達.339),被形容是Dobbs類型的打者,一樣,有點老...(25歲)
Tyler Cloyd(SP):
今年異軍突起,跟去年比,簡直像是不同人,風格有點像Worley...但也是有點老(24歲)。
Michael Cisco(RP):
出DL、轉RP後狀況很不錯,球速也蠻快的(大概在93~95左右)。
Justin Friend(RP):
A+終結者、規則五從運動家撿來,雖然成績不錯,但很少關於他的討論= ="
A+
Darin Ruf(1B):
Clearwater主炮,但大概到此為止,不屬於Prospect等級的人...
Travis Mattair(3B):
以一個中斷一年沒打棒球的人來說,(1A跟A+總合).256/.316/.420算是很不錯的...
但以第二輪來看,還是希望能再更好,
不過今年也才22歲,依然值得養。
(話說他在A+長打力突然上升...不知道是不是長出來了)
David Buchana(SP):
今年主要在Lakewood出賽,最近剛升A+,
K功不強,也是投給你打,被比喻為Kendrick...
Jonathan Pettibone(SP):
Colvin勞賽,Pettibone可說是取代了他的地位,
只是他的球速也不出色(Low 90's),
也是典型的"投給你打"投手...
(費城今年小聯盟先發特色就是這種-Worley、Cloyd、Buchana、Pettibone都是這類型)
A
Anthony Hewitt、Zach Collier:
嘆息,無語。
(六月時,我曾以為要長出來了,事後證明是曇花一現)
好啦,好歹Hewitt也扛了12發...
Garett Claypool(SP):
K哥之王(119.1IP,131K,聯盟第一),
不過最近幾個月被打的有點慘...
比較特別的是:
他是前二十之外的少數速球派先發(球速大概在92~95)。
先隨便寫到這兒...
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