作者leddy (耿秋)
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標題[情報] Halladay’s New Changeup
時間Thu Aug 12 19:34:15 2010
Roy Halladay開季前和投手教練學到了曲球以外的第二個out-pitch -- 以叉指的握法
投變速球, 結果練出了第四個有效球路, 以前的握法變速球使用率僅有5%, 但變更了握法
後雖然變速球的球速與先前差不多, 但掉得幅度比以前銳利的得多, 目前使用率為12%,
每100球是+1.5 run, 加入這個新的變速球後, 讓對手今年的揮空率, 滾地球率, 長打率都
比前3年要好看。雖然球探一般認為他不需要練出第四個球路, 但他還是練出來了。這樣可
以打季後賽了嗎?
http://www.fangraphs.com/blogs/index.php/halladays-new-changeup/
Halladay’s New Changeup
Yesterday I read that Roy Halladay had changed the grip on his changeup and
was throwing it more often (hat tip to Calcaterra on this one). Before this
year Halladay held the ball in his palm when throwing a changeup, but during
the offseason he worked with pitching coach Rich Dubee and changed to using a
split-finger grip. Let’s see whether we can pick up the difference in the
pitchf/x data. I think it is clearest in velocity-vertical spin deflection
(vertical movement) space.
Definitely a difference: the changeup has about the same velocity but instead
of rising about five inches it now drops a couple of inches. The horizontal
movement on the pitch is also different.
So the different grip imparts different movement on the pitch, so I think it
is fair to say it is a qualitatively different pitch. And Halladay is
throwing the pitch more often. As is noted in the article, before 2010
Halladay was pretty much a three-pitch pitcher (cutter, sinker and curve —
three great pitches), rarely throwing his change more than 5% of the time.
But now he is throwing the change almost 12% of the time. It seems he is much
more comfortable with it.
The results show that Halladay has good reason to be more comfortable with
the pitch. By our linear weights it is worth 1.5 runs per 100, much better
than his changeups in any full year before. Looking at components, the pitch
is wildly more successful, getting 19% swinging strikes per pitch in 2010
compared to 6% in 2009-2007 (pitchf/x years). It also gets more ground balls
(57% GB/BIP versus 55%) and a lower slugging on contact ( 0.452 bases/contact
versus 0.505).
Looking at Halladay’s pitch-count splits, he uses the pitch often when he is
ahead in the count. So it looks like he has developed a second out pitch —
along with his curve — to put batters away when he is ahead in the count.
As Calcaterra noted, it is not like Halladay needed another weapon, but he
has one.
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推 krara:真扯… 08/12 19:36
推 miyatan:好悲情的中文最後一句... 08/12 19:37
推 sheettrait:推一樓 08/12 19:38
推 ninini:傳說把所有變化球練滿以後... 08/12 19:44
推 HankJiang: 會出現隱藏球種! 08/12 19:46
推 beving:就可以退休了。 08/12 19:47
推 JubeChocobo: 火焰分身魔球! 08/12 19:48
→ yungwena:先轉去強隊吧 08/12 19:55
推 ggyy940:鳥王更噁心了= = 08/12 19:55
推 argoth:費城還不夠強嗎= =||| 08/12 19:55
推 dickyman:mAtsUzAkA球種也很多 不過好像不怎威- - 08/12 19:55
推 vying:讓他打季後賽吧!!!!!!! 08/12 19:56
推 coldeden:快速球 慢速球 變化球 08/12 19:56
推 sjvious:王大蠻? 08/12 20:00
→ sjvious:差了一下才發現原來王大蠻是左投QQ" 08/12 20:01
→ mdbbd:就指叉球啊 搞不懂盲腸的也常特別說是啥指叉握法的變速... 08/12 20:02
→ iluy:很機車 08/12 20:03
推 themartyr24:推最後一句... 08/12 20:08
→ KINGTIGERX:雙方打線將被封鎖的更徹底!? 08/12 20:11
推 WLR:別再練了,打者都哭死了 08/12 20:16
推 incubus:再變強費城打者就不知道怎麼打擊了 08/12 20:16
推 ohmyya:多換幾隊就有七彩變化球了 08/12 20:18
推 jagdzaku:他的養成過程...沒問題博士衝了幾次啊 08/12 20:21
推 siliver:根本是怪物. 08/12 20:30
推 GDBS:推最後一句~ 08/12 20:33
推 Jeph: SFF??? 快速指叉球 08/12 20:40
→ mhch:費城人打者表示:再這樣下去我們我們打擊率會更慘... 08/12 20:48
→ mdbbd:美帝常不管大小叉都叫splitter Halladay比較像是fork 08/12 20:51
推 skf:樓上 變速和指叉雖是功用相似的球種 但投法不同 球的轉動也 08/12 21:01
→ skf:不相同 既然他們會說是"變速" 就表示出手時不會像指叉般用食 08/12 21:03
→ skf:指和中指去扣球 08/12 21:03
→ mdbbd:盲腸的還好 但Halladay的一看就是指叉軌跡啊 = = 08/12 21:04
推 iluy:他本來就有投sff 只是換了變速的握法 08/12 21:08
推 Elton320:鳥王:我不過想打個季後賽,難道錯了嗎 〒皿〒(崩潰) 08/12 21:11
推 searching87:小雞的變速球是不是也是這種握法阿?? 08/12 21:17
推 miu4570:各位觀眾 好樂迪這次回家多拿了一把武器 專治投錯胎... 08/12 21:41
推 Croast:鳥王:沒辦法 技能點太多了 08/12 21:59
→ jdtrue:剛看完 去原文有PITCH F/X的圖表可以看 08/12 22:26
推 Sechslee:妖怪... 08/12 22:43
推 quicknick:啊都給他玩就好啦.... 08/12 22:49
推 kkkk3145:Doc的球都是到本壘版那附近才掉..很像好球= =||超難打 08/12 22:56
推 vou89kot:vulcan change up 08/12 22:59
推 jason12308:王大蠻BALK吧…出手前腳沒踏在投手板上…… 08/12 23:40
推 sakingdom:鳥王的天賦點數怎麼比別人多那麼多阿!! 08/13 01:15
推 yamapisheng:達比修:我球種也很多啊 08/13 02:09
推 accin:太好笑了 08/14 02:23
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→ kkkk3145:這篇滿好笑的~~~轉一下....XDD 08/21 10:08
推 jamison04:達比修球會往上飄,好樂迪球會往下墜,怎麼那麼變態!! 08/21 15:27
推 kevin3468:打者表示:欸!我們前三個都還沒學會你就要敎第四個? 08/21 16:39