[翻譯] The Papelbon Deal

[HankJiang (沒人要的呆江)]

http://zozone.mlblogs.com/2011/11/14/the-papelbon-deal/
(這篇官網也有)


Phillies ink closer Papelbon to four-year deal
    寶貝碰正式成為費城碰

Jonathan Papelbon is in town today for a physical, so expect an official
announcement and introductory news conference later today.

    今天寶貝碰來到嚕費城坐健康檢查~並準備參加球團為他舉辦的歡迎儀式(∩_∩)

Lots and lots of reaction about Papelbon’s four-year, $50 million deal.

    蝦咪?4年50M鎂?

My first reaction? Wow. That is a ton of money for a closer, considering the
Phillies just finished a three-year, $37.5 million deal with Brad Lidge. Lots
of risk there, and knowing the way pitcher’s break down (there is a reason Pat
Gillick hated going longer than three years on pitchers) it wouldn’t surprise
me to see this deal haunt them down the road (although Papelbon has never had
surgery or been on the DL).

    我聽到這消息的第一反應是:WOW (Oh Wow正夯)

    好...巨大的一筆合約呀(⊙o⊙)...(對於一個Closer來說)

    尤其是，

    在我們剛剛向那位三年拿了37.5M卻窮得只剩滑球的熄燈者Ｓay 股拜 的這時

    在各方面來說，投資投手的風險是灰熊巨大的，

    (所以從吉利果時代開始，費城球團就非常討厭給投手超過3年的合約)

    如果這合約最後出蝦咪狀況~我也完完全全不意外0.0

    (雖然寶貝碰從來沒有待過DL~更別說動過手術了)


My second reaction? The Phillies got the best closer on the market.

    而我的第二個反應是: 我們拿到現在市場上最棒的守護神了!!

Let’s address a few things that popped into my head as I read comments on
Twitter, e-mail, Facebook, etc., since Friday:

    接下來讓我們來談談，從周五(消息剛出來)到現在，

    我看過從各式各樣的管道流出的各式各樣的評論後，我的一些想法

- I heard no complaints when reports broke early last week the Phillies had
reached an agreement on a four-year, $44 million deal with Ryan Madson. The
difference between Madson and Papelbon is $6 million over four seasons. That’s
nothing. It’s not going to prevent the Phillies from keeping Jimmy Rollins or
signing Cole Hamels to a contract extension. It’s $6 million. When it came
time last offseason to sign Cliff Lee or not, Phillies president David
Montgomery stopped looking at the total committment and started looking at the
difference between the two offers, which was roughly $10 million over five
seasons. Montgomery stopped thinking $120 million and started thinking $10
million more and we have Cliff Lee. He pulled the trigger. I think the same
happened here. Instead of $50 million it was $6 million more and we have the
best closer on the market. And Papelbon was the best closer on the market. He
has put up better numbers than Madson (and almost everybody not named Mariano
Rivera) since the beginning of the 2007 season, and Papelbon was closing the
entire time in the American League East. Those are some high leverage
situations. Like Roy Halladay, Papelbon should find life a little better in the
National League East.

    在上週一開始傳出費城要以4年44M鎂簽回咩的神時

    我沒看到什麼批評的言論

    但現在多花６Ｍ簽下檯面上最棒的守護神寶貝碰時，卻跑出了一堆批評聲浪

    ６Ｍ能幹嘛？６Ｍ根本不會影響到簽回這一肉或與黑魔使延長合約

    讓我們回到去年，費城的老闆  蒙哥馬利 決定簽回 帥氣小李 的當下：

      當時蒙哥馬利著眼的點不在：喔～這份合約要120M鎂?

      而把焦點放在：桌上這兩份合約之間的差異（另一份是？文中沒說到,是梔子?）

      他想了想，簽了，我們接下來五個球季大概就多花10M鎂~但我們卻能擁有小李!!!

      他扣下了扳機，將帥氣小李帶回嚕費城！v(￣︶￣)y

    我想，現在就跟當時情況差不多，我們多花了６Ｍ，將市場上最棒的守護神帶回來

    從2007年以來，寶貝碰繳出比咩的神(甚至是所有人,除了Mo)更加亮眼的成績

    而且他的這些成績，是全程經過美東火藥庫洗禮而產生出來的

    也許就像Doc一樣，在國東戰區裡，能夠表現得更加精采
    (國東火力真的沒美東可怕，這應該沒啥異議吧＝　＝？)

- If you think four years, $44 million or four years, $50 million is too much
for any closer, then what was the alternative? Francisco Rodriguez? Joe Nathan,
who had Tommy John surgery and turns 37 later this month? Ruben Amaro Jr.
thinks he might have future closers in Phillippe Aumont or Justin De Fratus,
but they’re not ready right now. And the Phillies are trying to win now. It
would be too much of a gamble with Halladay, Lee and Cole Hamels in the
rotation. I understand it’s a lot of money for a guy that’s only going to
pitch 60-70 innings every season, but those innings are important. Dallas Green
once told me the closer might be the most important spot on the roster in today
’s game because nothing is more demoralizing than blowing a ninth-inning lead.
Sure, the Phillies survived Lidge’s disastrous 2009, but I’m not sure
Phillies fans want to take that roller coaster ride again. I’m not sure the
players want that again, either.

    如果你覺得，４４M或５０M 鎂 這個價碼 對於一個守護神來說太高的話

    那麼我們來看看，如果這兩個方案都不選，我們還有啥咪選擇？

    K-Rod? 還是剛動完Tommy John而且即將滿37歲的 Nathan?

    阿馬羅認為，將來把守費城最後一關的，可能會是 阿蒙 或是 賈狄福

    但現在...他們壓根就沒準備好呀(你們準備好不就沒事了?(／‵Д′)／~ ╧╧)

    而且現在的費城~灰熊灰熊灰熊灰熊~你看我用了幾個灰熊~灰熊渴望勝利!!!

    我們已經下了重注(Ｄｏｃ、小李、黑魔使)

    我知道，對一個每年只投60~70局的投手來說，這價碼很高沒錯

    但要記得，這60~70局，每一局，每個出局數，

    幾乎都是非常緊張，直接關係到球隊勝敗的關鍵

    Dallas Green曾經跟我說過，他認為在現代的比賽裡，Closer可以說是最重要的

    因為，沒有任何一件事比在九局被逆轉更加讓人受挫的

    當然...我們曾經成功的從 Lidge’s disastrous(災難般的) 2009 存活了下來...

    但我想，廣小費迷們...

            應該不會想再度體驗那種如騎雲霄飛車般的9局吧(￣□￣|||)?

    （當然～球員們應該也不想吧...?)

- One thing I really liked about Madson is that he seemed to be a great mentor
to the younger pitchers in the bullpen. I’m not sure if Papelbon can fill that
role or not, but it seems to me this bullpen is missing a good veteran
presence. I wouldn’t mind seeing the Phillies bring back Lidge on a one-year
deal, or somebody else who can help Mike Stutes, Antonio Bastardo, David
Herndon, De Fratus, Aumont, Michael Schwimer, Joe Savery, etc., learn on the
job.

    關於咩的神，有一點真的非常讓我欣賞

    那就是～他就像牛棚裡那些乳臭未乾的年輕投手們的導師

    我不確定 寶貝碰 是否能成功的接手這個角色

    但我知道，費城牛棚現在缺少一個帶頭的老大哥

    我想，或許可以給力矩(或其他人)個一年短約，

    讓他帶領史兔子、踏斗、亨燈、賈狄福、阿蒙、徐茵夢、救世主等眾費小醬們，

    慢慢步上軌道(咦?老康不行咩?是因為有代溝嗎( ￣ c￣)y▂ξ)

- As soon as the season ended Amaro said he wanted a veteran closer for the
bullpen. He budgeted for this. My only question now is how much left does he
have to spend? So far he hasn’t addressed the offense, which he stressed in
his postseason news conference. If the Phillies sign Jimmy Rollins and Michael
Cuddyer, I think fans will be happy with that. If they only sign one, people
naturally are going to wonder if that’s enough.

    在球季結束時，阿馬羅就已經撥好預算，準備要找個大將來陣守牛棚大關

    我現在唯一的問題是...阿馬羅手上究竟還剩下多少＄＄能用(？o？)

    目前為止，我們還沒在攻擊上做啥補強

    而攻擊方面，卻是他之前在季後賽記者會上特別強調他要補強的

    如果費城簽下這一肉跟卡黛兒，我想費迷們是非常樂見的

    但如果只簽一個，我想應該很多人都會抱著相同疑問：這樣火力夠嗎(．＿．?)

- I remember my first few years on the beat when fans were ripping the Phillies
for not spending or doing enough. Now some are upset because they’re spending
too much. Sometimes you have to take a risk. Is there a chance the move
backfires? Oh, absolutely. There’s definitely a chance of that. But if I’m
Amaro I’m not comfortable having Halladay, Lee and Hamels hand the ball to
K-Rod, Nathan or a youngster the next season or two. And the first couple years
of this deal are the most important while Halladay, Lee and Hamels are closer
to their primes. Keep in mind Hamels becomes a free agent following next
season, too. This could be the final season of the Big Three. You don’t want
to waste a bunch of their wins with an unreliable closer.

    我記得，在之前，費迷們常常在說的是不肯花錢，

    而現在有些費迷反而是擔心費城花太多＄＄

    有的時候，冒險是必須的，

    簽下寶貝碰，有沒有可能成為一場悲劇？當然，不管做什麼事都會有風險的

    但如果我是阿馬羅，我絕對不希望在未來一年或兩年裡

    Ｄｏｃ.小李.黑魔使 後面關門的是 K-Rod,Nathan 或是其他年輕小夥子

    接下來的這一兩年是很關鍵的，因為我們擁有 Ｄｏｃ.小李.黑魔使
                                             (黑魔使明年成為FA)
    這可能會是三巨投的最後一年

    你絕對不會希望將他們投出的勝利，交給一個無法讓人信服的投手來守護的

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好長呀0.0

看到不少國內以及國外的球迷都對這個選擇有不少意見

我想~寶貝碰是個已經被證明過的高級Closer~而且目前為止也沒傷病的問題

雖然 咩的神 是費城一手帶大的...情感上當然希望他能留下...

但以4年只差6M的情況下，選擇寶貝碰其實也沒什麼大疑問(平均1年差個1.5M而已= =)

老實說，咩的神跟寶貝碰比較

一個是剛剛上路的新手Closer，一個是在美東一級戰區生存過幾年，經過證明的Closer

若是要求穩定，選擇後者應該是最保險的方式

前者在穩定性上，風險反而大些...
(當然~如果咩的神要求的合約低很多~短很多~那當然可以賭咩的神)

但現在是都已經下重注了(三巨頭)~目標就是要想盡辦法拚下我兒

這時在價錢差距不大的情況下，選擇風險較小的一邊應該是沒啥疑問的做法

因為現在～目標只有一個：我兒千篇！！！！

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