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※ 引述《pennymarcus (De-troit Basketball)》之銘言: : http://www.detroitbadboys.com/ (裡面有Samb的三張照片) : 大概在第三個區塊 : On Cheikh Samb’s development and potential : 有一個來西班牙和Samb有點熟的球迷看了他三年的表現 : 下面是他的一些看法還有Samb的數據 : 有人有空的話幫忙翻譯個大概吧 感謝啦! : Hi to all, I am a basketball fan from Spain and I recently ended up reading : this web page which, by the way, is extremely well documented and is a great : source of information for all that regards the Pistons. I was trying to read : information published by US media on Cheikh Samb, the Senegalese center : drafted by the Lakers and later acquired by the Pistons in last year’s : draft. I read the article published on Cheikh and the comments the readers : made on him. All of them were interesting and showed a deep knowledge of the : Spanish basketball scene and Cheikh’s basketball skills. With this post I : wanted to further a little bit the information and comments published since I : noted that there is a great interest in Cheikh and I happen to know him : pretty well and have followed his evolution for the past three years. 大家好,我是來自西班牙的捧油。 這裡豐富的活塞隊資訊簡直就是人間天堂一般,與PTT的活塞版一樣。 (後面是我加的) 我對山巴的資訊很有興趣,陸陸續續察他大概三年時間了。 我在這裡分享一下我這幾年的觀察心得。 : Cheikh has been playing in LEB-2 for WTC Cornella, a team that acts as FC : Barcelona’s youth team. The LEB-2 is a competition organized by the Spanish : Basketball federation that precedes LEB and ACB as the top three basketball : leagues in Spain. The rationale behind the creation of this competition was : that it would act as the league in which the young talents from ACB’s top : teams would develop. As a matter of fact, six of the eighteen teams that : competed in this year’s LEB-2 are related to ACB teams: WTC Cornella to FC : Barcelona, CB Prat to Joventut, Real Madrid’s own LEB-2 team, Axarquia to : Unicaja, Akasvayu Vic to Akasvayu Girona, and CB Qalat to Caja San Fernando. 山巴在 LEB-2 中的 WTC Cornella 打球,那是 FC Barcelona 的青年隊。 LEB-2 是在西班牙聯賽中與 LEB 和 ACB 分別為前三名的聯盟,應該算是裡面最好的了。 這個聯盟的組成就是 ACB 的小聯盟的感覺,在 LEB-2 的十八隻隊伍中, 有六隻是與 ACB 有關的。像是 WTC Cornella to FC Barcelona, CB Prat to Joventut, Real Madrid’s own LEB-2 team, Axarquia to Unicaja, Akasvayu Vic to Akasvayu Girona, and CB Qalat to Caja San Fernando。 : This original line of thought of developing talent has been abandoned quite a : bit lately since the league has become more competitive and the players are : more experienced. During this season, some former NBA players have played in : LEB-2. Some examples are: Robert “Tractor” Traylor (former Wolverine and : NBA lottery pick), Rico Hill, and Sean Lampley. This latest trend has pushed : teams to look for a less demanding competition and more comfortable : atmosphere in EBA (Spain’s fourth basketball league) to develop their young : players. Some potential NBA talents such as Joel Freeland (already drafted by : Portland), Mamadou Samb (Cheikh’s young brother), or Daniel Clark play in : this league whose competitive environment is not comparable to that of LEB-2. 不過聯盟原始的組成用意有點被遺忘了,因為那裡的球員越來越競爭, 經驗越來越豐富。這個球季,甚至有些前 NBA 球員在這裡打球,例如: Tractor” Traylor (former Wolverine and NBA lottery pick), Rico Hill, and Sean Lampley. 於是這種走向迫使球隊球隊讓他們的年輕球員 到第四級聯盟 EBA ,納裡會有適合的氣氛對於年輕球員們, 以及不會太過激烈的競爭的環境。 (算是可愛動物區吧) 有些有潛力的準 NBA 球員也在這裡,例如 Joel Freeland (拓荒者選的), 或是山巴的兄弟,或 Daniel Clark 等人,都在這裡慢慢長大。 : As far as Cheikh is concerned, he has had a season in which, despite the : injuries, he has been able to consolidate his talent, evolve physically and : add some valuable tools to his game. It has to be said that due to the : configuration of LEB-2 teams’ rosters, this is a league that does not : benefit players like Cheikh. Nearly all teams play with undersized : power-forwards and centers which are hard to defend for taller centers : because of their quickness. Despite this disadvantage Cheikh has been able to : lead the league in blocks for the second straight season even though he has : played fewer minutes. These are his stats for the past two years: : 2005-06 Season: 29 games played, 26 min, 9.6 pts, 7.7rbs, 3.1 blk (1st in the : league), FG: 51.4%, 3-FG: 38.5%, FT: 76.1% : 2006-07 Season: 19 games played, 24 min, 10.5 pts, 7.3 rbs, 2.9 blk (1st in : the league), FG: 52%, 3-FG: 50%, FT: 61% 儘管他有點傷,不過他的天分已經在這個球季整合得很好了。 身體逐漸發展完成,而且也鍛鍊了一些有用的技巧。 不過在這個聯盟裡由於組成特殊,所以身材有點不太公平。 這裡有很多小 size 的四號和五號選手,所以像山巴這種又高又快的中鋒, 幾乎是沒有對手可以抵擋。所以他在聯盟裡已經連禪兩年的火鍋王啦, 即使他今年的上場時間還稍微減少了。 2005-06 Season: 29 games played, 26 min, 9.6 pts, 7.7rbs, 3.1 blk (1st in the league), FG: 51.4%, 3-FG: 38.5%, FT: 76.1% 2006-07 Season: 19 games played, 24 min, 10.5 pts, 7.3 rbs, 2.9 blk (1st in the league), FG: 52%, 3-FG: 50%, FT: 61% : As you can see, his numbers from this season are very similar to those of : last season which would lead us to think that he has made little progress, : but this is not the case. Here, we have to take into consideration several : factors. First of all, he has had problems with injuries and this has : prevented him from not being at his best. He got injured when he was reaching : his best form and returned with only 4 games left in the season. In addition, : he plays for a team in which he has to compete for playing time with two : talented Spanish prospects that play the same position: Xavi Rey (same : generation as Sergio Rodriguez) and Albert Montcasi (has already played : minutes for FC Barcelona’s ACB team). 如你所見,兩年的成績大同小異,不過有些許的進步。 我們要分析他的成績必須有多方面的思考,首先, 他是受傷的狀態,所以他沒有拿出最好的表現。 (像 Oden 一樣,比喻會太超過嗎) 他在他狀態最好的時候受傷,在剩下四場比賽時才回到賽場上, 而且他必須與同隊的兩個很有天分的潛力股競爭,Xavi Rey 和 Albert Montcasi。 : As far as his progress as a player is concerned, Cheikh has managed to strive : at gaining muscle and furthering his skills. Here, you have to take into : account that he has been playing basketball for five years, a very short : period of time. Considering his evolution, it is scary to imagine how far : will be able to go as a player. During the course of this season, and using : the idle time while he was injured, he added 12-15 pounds of muscle to his : frame. His physical evolution is hard to miss when you look at the pictures : from last year’s [Las Vegas] Summer League (left) and you compare them to : the latest available images from one of his last games with Cornella (right). 山巴現在持續的在增加自己的肌肉,並且鍛鍊自己的技巧。 現在他打籃球才五年的時間,那是很短的時間。再與他進化的幅度來比對的話, 這實在是很驚人的,利用這個球季的課程與他受傷時所得到的空閒時間, 他增加了 12-15 磅的肌肉在身上,這明顯的進步是你在照片上就可以看的出來的。 : This gain in strength has not damaged his agility. Cheikh is not only able to : be a dominant force on the defensive side, where he intimidates opponents and : is probably NBA ready, but he is also a reliable scorer on the offensive side : where he has developed his back to the basket game and is able to shoot from : 15-18 feet or further. 增加的肌肉並沒有使他的靈活性下降,他不是只有在防守端有嚇阻性, 他也是個可以倚賴的固定得分點,他訓練出了背框技巧與 15-18 呎的投籃距離。 他的防守技巧可能已經到達 NBA 的等級。 (我不太相信,不過一定是有足夠的水準了) : Cheikh not only has an incredible ability to jump, which he demonstrates in : every game, but he is also able to read the game on offense and has the : potential to be a scoring threat in the NBA. If I would have to compare him : with an NBA player, I would say he is similar to Samuel Dalembert in that he : has the same defensive skills and ability to intimidate, but I think he could : develop into a better offensive player. He reads the game better and relies : on a greater number of tools than Samuel. He is a smart guy, very mature off : the court and I think he will adapt quick to the NBA game and off-court : lifestyle. It looks like he might be able to play again in the Las Vegas : summer league with the Pistons where we will see if his latest progress and : evolution help him reach his ultimate goal: to play in the NBA. 山巴不只有優秀的彈跳能力,他每場比賽都有展現他得彈跳能力, 他也有解讀比賽的能力,並且在進攻端也幾乎達 NBA 的水準了, 我想他應該是向是 Dalembert 的角色,因為他有了相同的防守技巧, 不過他隊比賽的解讀能力應該是比 Samuel Dalembert 還好,並且有多元的技巧。 他是個聰明的人,而且在場下時也是個很成熟的人, 如果進到 NBA 中,他應該很快就可以融入當地的生活。 今年他應該還會參加活塞的 LV 籃球營,我們就可以看到他的進步以及 希望他可以完成他的最終目標:進入 NBA 打球。 -- █◣◢█ ▄▄▄    Thank you, Rasheed Wallace WALLACE2005-2006 STATISTICS   PISTONS 36 PPG 15.1 RPG 6.80 APG 2.3 EFF +17.62 36 Selected to third All-Star team 02/09/06 Receives NBA Community Assist Award For April -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.115.43.161
MingJui:推 06/06 12:39
kuankubank:推 希望他可以補強活塞內線防守 06/06 12:42
glittering:拉來打NBDL或許也不錯? 06/06 12:53
stack:那位是山巴弟~~他弟的潛力聽說比他還好很多很多人流口水^^ 06/06 12:58
pennymarcus:要說補強活塞內線防守可能有點早 XDD 先看看他在夏季 06/06 13:46
pennymarcus:聯盟的表現了(如果有參加的話) 06/06 13:47
奇克山巴是哥哥 他弟媽媽豆山巴好像更好 先被看上 當年有法國球隊要簽媽媽豆了 不過他媽說 兩隻要一起帶走 所以就沒有敲簽成 http://photos1.blogger.com/blogger/1602/3313/1600/sum.jpg 去年的山巴
LOJ:如果以後他跟 Amir 後上場可會認不出來 XD 06/06 14:07
※ 編輯: LOJ 來自: 140.115.43.161 (06/06 14:09)
studylance:推 捧油XD 讓我想到路口的傳教士= = 06/06 14:40
RAYBO:希望趕快把他拉來暑期訓練營與熱身賽打打看~~ 06/06 14:55
twister527:2年成績大同小異外加有點受傷...這好像不太好的訊息... 06/06 17:24
loki761124:戴輪伯?? 那也太猛了吧XDDD 06/06 21:20