精華區beta PutOffShell 關於我們 聯絡資訊
本人曾在高雄某外商公司(美商)工作過兩年 期間幾乎沒講過英文 不論是客戶或對老闆做簡報 客戶比較沒話說,畢竟在台灣服務 客人也是以台灣居多 即使偶爾遇到外國人也大都是用中文交談 至於對上級報告(包括定期會議) 由於本人英文也沒有很好,所以乾脆直接講中文 反正也都聽得懂 真的有能力別人要來求你,也是會用你習慣的語言 所以具備專業能力才是最重要的 英文能力我倒覺得是第二順位 畢竟人家開公司是為了賺錢 用膝蓋想也知道是要優先錄用有能力但英文沒那麼好的 而不是英文好但什麼都不會 這是我在麥當勞打工後的經驗 謝謝大家 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.115.42.112
cephalitis:XDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:27
Szss:倒數第二句?? 09/29 16:27
ccker:ㄜ.. 09/29 16:27
麥當勞是美商 ※ 編輯: milkcake 來自: 140.115.42.112 (09/29 16:28)
Level:美商英文能力不好怎麼進的.... 09/29 16:28
Szss:能夠當下判斷出綠皮馬鈴薯才重要 09/29 16:28
mori9455:XDDDDD 09/29 16:28
kent:有好笑到 09/29 16:28
WhiteMage:麥當勞打工...... 09/29 16:28
Dulcia:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:28
Level:........麥當勞 靠 09/29 16:28
srxcomtx:......... 09/29 16:28
eggcakepie:。。。。。。 09/29 16:28
tyrande:這篇很瓦風 09/29 16:29
chengweirh:.................. 09/29 16:29
zephyrias33:會覺得某件事不重要都是沒辦法把那件事作好才安慰自己 09/29 16:29
Ximcra:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:29
KG29911069:XDDDD 09/29 16:29
pegy3920:就是有這種文,八卦板才有活力 09/29 16:29
starport:今天滿是這種靠北文章XDDDDD 09/29 16:30
maxxV3:哈哈 09/29 16:30
alentek:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:30
tcpic:靠杯喔害我認真了XD 09/29 16:30
HermesKing:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:31
wwe2646162:XDDDD 09/29 16:31
momoisacow:靠北 我也認真看完了 09/29 16:31
maninpink:這篇超讚的啦XDDDDD 09/29 16:31
asd2260123:靠杯喔 09/29 16:31
speedman:靠杯,我竟然認真了 XD 09/29 16:32
mike110100:認真文推 09/29 16:32
kipi91718:靠北 XDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:32
terry955048:在法商做簡報還不是不用法文就可以過 家樂福 09/29 16:32
sellgd:反串文 puchline在麥當勞 09/29 16:32
upyours:這文廢到好笑 09/29 16:32
m21423:麥當勞打工還要簡報喔 09/29 16:32
chaudieuer:XDDDDD沒看推文我還沒發現 倒數第二行 09/29 16:32
liaon98:XDDDDD 09/29 16:32
hellomen:靠杯 看完了XD 09/29 16:33
followwar:XD 09/29 16:33
gungunit:XDDDDDD 09/29 16:33
voyhanxu:哈哈哈 笑死我了XD 09/29 16:34
TokyoHot5566:ㄏㄏ 09/29 16:34
kutkin:你到底要跟誰簡報? 09/29 16:34
adm123:全家是日商? 09/29 16:34
poppipe:Joke文 09/29 16:34
uzumaki:有靠杯到XDXDDDDDDD 09/29 16:35
Leeng:幹你贏了XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:35
TZUYIC:都是為你 都是為你 麥當勞都是為你 09/29 16:35
s92228:XDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:35
carlos5978:靠霸 XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:35
newewew:靠杯 害我認真XDDD 09/29 16:35
JT07:你太有才了! 09/29 16:35
zzxcasd:你贏了 09/29 16:36
space20021:XDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:36
chungyiju:XDD 09/29 16:36
Oxhorn:炸個薯條還得作簡報XDDDD 09/29 16:36
r30385:.............................................. 09/29 16:36
beyondboy:好強大的文章 XD 09/29 16:37
johtom811113:XDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:37
hey0703:你淫惹 09/29 16:37
oo0:XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:37
imrbo:XD 09/29 16:37
OpenGoodHate:有笑有推 09/29 16:37
KCKCLIN:XD 09/29 16:37
msnskyline:BIG MAC ! BIG MAC ! 09/29 16:38
duolon:英文是你要搶老外的錢的重要基礎 就好像你要搶日本人錢就需 09/29 16:38
tper8042:跟親鏡子有得拚 09/29 16:38
faxy:ψ-(._. )> 09/29 16:38
rarirurero:靠腰 後勁好強 XDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:38
PPPGGG:己霸婚 09/29 16:38
sandra83520:有笑有推XDDD 09/29 16:39
duolon:要日文一樣....[用不到?那是你不會用] 09/29 16:39
WEDI:我笑了。 09/29 16:39
z09211290:XDD 09/29 16:39
chiyaki:XDD 09/29 16:39
adexaut:浪費我時間 09/29 16:40
signm:幹,後勁好強,幾霸婚 09/29 16:40
chewzhang:好煩XDDDDD 09/29 16:40
wmke:有笑有推 09/29 16:40
cmid05:XDD 09/29 16:40
qscxz:靠杯 麥當勞 XDD 09/29 16:41
NANAer:靠XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:41
simonds:GJ ! 09/29 16:41
gotohikaru:.....XD 09/29 16:41
proletariat:噗哧!說得很有道理! 09/29 16:42
mengche:麥當勞工讀生要對客戶對老闆做簡報嗎?又是個滿口謊言的騜. 09/29 16:42
jeffreyshe:XDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:42
cokellen:有笑有推 09/29 16:42
PIGUms9:也太好笑XDD 09/29 16:42
monkjohnny:大推,八卦版需要你啊! 09/29 16:42
olalo:好笑,但是舉例很爛... 09/29 16:43
yuan720:殺小!!! 09/29 16:43
sellgd:向客人解說每個餐的內容 就是簡報啊 09/29 16:43
bala73:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:43
sellgd:用餐時間緊迫不能說太久 就是簡報 09/29 16:43
william307:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:43
goshfju:專業 09/29 16:44
abxtpml56:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:44
rhino0314:XD 09/29 16:44
woajw:靠杯 XDDD 09/29 16:44
arhuro:後勁好強的回馬槍! 09/29 16:45
jackson517:XDD 09/29 16:45
sty0322:XD 09/29 16:45
CILOHAKROW:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:46
ffaarr:XDDDDDD 09/29 16:46
saijuk:你贏了 09/29 16:47
lineagjason:幹 我笑了 09/29 16:47
BBBroflovski:XDDD 09/29 16:47
ffaarr:請容我簡報一下今天的新套餐。 09/29 16:47
milicic2103:我笑了 09/29 16:47
qn:哈哈 09/29 16:47
THH:XDDDDDDDDDDDD 你贏了 09/29 16:47
ams9:所以你的專業能力是啥? 09/29 16:47
PePePeace:XD 09/29 16:48
tokyoto:用英文點餐的老外你會跟他說 阿鬼 你還是說中文嗎? 09/29 16:48
rexlin:XD 09/29 16:48
cjoe:XDDDD 09/29 16:49
jack50712:XDDDDDD 09/29 16:49
billy2769:XD 害我晚餐想吃麥當勞了 09/29 16:49
ziso:優質廢文!!! 09/29 16:49
dddddd67:XD 09/29 16:49
wowyoyoman:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD你讓我笑了!!!! 09/29 16:49
c230:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:49
snowy1045:xdddddddddd 09/29 16:49
js9150812:推 09/29 16:50
reaper8046:You, waste my time! 09/29 16:50
JCS15:疑 好像沒錯XD 09/29 16:50
iGao:今天晚餐就來兩個小麥克好了 09/29 16:50
a109250405:繼上一篇親親要閉眼後 又一個溫馨文 XD 09/29 16:50
lihsien:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:50
ekoj:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:50
greatkevin:有笑有推 09/29 16:50
zs17:笑死我了XDDDDDD 09/29 16:50
liyuoh:靠北已笑 09/29 16:51
coyoteY:俺服了~把這篇文印下來去跟老闆要求加薪吧~XDD 09/29 16:51
lolic:xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:51
nightstory:肯德基的全部站出來! 09/29 16:51
ericleft:好文 09/29 16:51
Xhocer:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:51
lairx:有笑有推 09/29 16:51
t1018:倒數第二句讓我笑翻! 09/29 16:51
NightMoon33:有人想轉joke版嗎?XDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:52
ms0007912:鋪疵 09/29 16:52
stamina0304:認真的嗎 09/29 16:52
Leoreo:家樂福: 09/29 16:52
organ63521:-.- 09/29 16:52
F2012:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:53
nashmvp:XD 09/29 16:53
dio112400:大笑 09/29 16:53
puppetired:好煩喔XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:53
Crazyfire:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:53
seemoon2000:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:53
pikakami:美商 7-11 09/29 16:54
lihsien:借轉joke 09/29 16:54
tensinya:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:54
NiceGuyOrz:......... 09/29 16:54
lihsien:轉錄至看板 joke 09/29 16:55
wowowsakura:XDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:55
PabiL:XDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:57
s155260:b妹b妹 09/29 16:57
vios:push 09/29 16:57
seedk869:靠腰哩 09/29 16:57
ayrtonvitas:八卦需要這種優質廢文 09/29 16:57
snowshadow7:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:57
kimi255085:幹XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 16:58
lonelynight:幽默 09/29 16:58
rnrm:美商無誤 XDDDD 09/29 16:59
OrangePlusXD:XDDDDD 09/29 16:59
clothk60207:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:00
Cervelo1995:幹你營惹 09/29 17:00
matrox323:........................ 09/29 17:01
terry1043:....... 09/29 17:01
cakin:XDDDDD 09/29 17:01
OHMYJEHOVAH:很幽默XDDDDDDD 09/29 17:01
mermaidhan:幹 你真的好強 XDDD 09/29 17:01
jonahlin:你是今天的梗王XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:02
lovejamwu:= =...我很認真看完...... 09/29 17:02
pitalvlu:能讓我笑的真沒幾個 你真是個人才 09/29 17:02
oscarss07:XDDDD 09/29 17:03
halfy:nice 09/29 17:03
a83a83cjcj:傻眼XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:05
Luminolio:麥噹噹都是為你~ 09/29 17:05
tikowm:全球知名企業 09/29 17:06
shalomlee:淦我還認真的看完XDDDDD 09/29 17:07
evilvens:... 09/29 17:07
whface:我很認真的看完,這是優質廢文無誤! 09/29 17:08
bced:原來在麥當勞打工還要做簡報 09/29 17:08
williamsm:…… 09/29 17:08
aadsl:這專業能力XD 09/29 17:08
mqac:哈哈哈 09/29 17:08
ParisRose:本日最幽默 XDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:08
Imhuang:現在麥當勞已經是"台灣麥當勞" 09/29 17:09
bced:打工的話,上級應該也是台灣人吧 09/29 17:09
gamesame7711:XDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:10
Kunoichi:反串成功 XDDD 09/29 17:10
dromor:XDDD 09/29 17:11
lee988325:去你的XDD 09/29 17:11
icq7584:XD 09/29 17:12
xlunarx:已笑XD 09/29 17:12
jeanniewoo:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:12
Deesu:..............XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:12
tonykingtwo:.... 09/29 17:13
PlayPtt:您贏了...賞 最佳反串獎 優等 09/29 17:14
joyc06u6:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:14
kickmeout:幹..我還以為是酸馬英九..哈哈 09/29 17:15
xunhuiwu:鋪成的很好阿.. 給讚! 09/29 17:15
gh34163:後勁有點強ㄏㄏㄏ 09/29 17:16
TIC05:認真看完結果笑到罵靠杯 09/29 17:16
audiencelin:快笑死XDDDDD 09/29 17:17
Fuzishan:XD 09/29 17:18
Phineas:XDDDDDDD 09/29 17:18
chiangwei:XDDDDDDD 09/29 17:18
orsonplus:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 大推啊 09/29 17:18
Senosi:XD 09/29 17:19
madaniel:重點在最後XDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:20
mitsuyo:麥當勞需要向老闆做簡報的應該也不錯了吧 09/29 17:21
ji394284s93:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:21
polarg: 09/29 17:22
yoyonigo:晚餐就吃麥噹噹! 09/29 17:22
landpro:有笑到 09/29 17:22
frank11118:XDDDDD 09/29 17:22
GEANS:有笑有推~!!!!XDDDDDD 09/29 17:23
Sayd20:很靠輩 幹嘛那麼酸 09/29 17:23
iceroy:超有理的 09/29 17:24
tsioge:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 讚啦 09/29 17:24
leptons:哈哈哈 笑死我了XD 09/29 17:24
yukina17:wwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww 09/29 17:25
yukaonly:有笑有推 09/29 17:25
ruth0204:哈哈阿哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈 09/29 17:25
jorden:xdddddddddd 09/29 17:26
HKfood:幾霸婚啦! 09/29 17:27
ttikyo:這不推不行XD 09/29 17:27
lidiya0930:害我看得那麼認真 09/29 17:28
l17:XDD 09/29 17:28
MrDisgrace:靠杯XDDD 09/29 17:29
pinkowa:你很靠杯 = =".............................. 09/29 17:30
fairy20115:靠XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:33
ruth0204:超好笑的啦!!!!!!!!! 09/29 17:33
johnsonliang:陳述事實 給推 09/29 17:34
KingKingCold:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:34
brian7882287:靠北 給人希望又推他下懸崖 09/29 17:34
minbyminby:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:35
popsony:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:35
Fiendyux:靠腰最後笑翻惹 09/29 17:36
ozakiman:阿我在家樂福打工不就是法商 09/29 17:36
krauserq:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:37
jsyunlin:靠北 倒數第二句XDDD 09/29 17:38
greedypeople:XDDDDD 09/29 17:38
discoveryray:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:39
id:家樂福早就不是法商了好嗎 09/29 17:40
boss1228:朝聖 09/29 17:43
coolboy16:幹結果是麥當勞XDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:43
ianian45:幹你娘勒 害我看的那麼認真xddd 09/29 17:43
modjo:XDDDDDD 09/29 17:43
CMC677:XDDDD 09/29 17:43
liao18:哈哈哈 09/29 17:43
tryit0902:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:45
chou753:xDD 09/29 17:45
xsoho:GJ 09/29 17:46
pttview:好笑,算是篇近來最佳的反串文 09/29 17:49
mantike:麥當勞都是為你 09/29 17:51
SS159:真的很靠杯 09/29 17:51
ahonchen:XD 09/29 17:51
protoss666:高手 09/29 17:52
aptoxin4869:機八 09/29 17:53
weiweipkpk:乾 神點給推xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:56
wen7706:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDd 09/29 17:58
u881149:3064勒,看到一半,原本E04都打開準備投履歷了說...麥當勞 09/29 17:58
pipatel2008:你真煩!!! XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 17:59
ghghfftjack:超靠北 09/29 17:59
dreamersin:我在漢堡王有碰過流利英文跟外國人點餐的服務生 09/29 18:00
dreamersin:之後我都覺得漢堡王的員工很厲害 09/29 18:00
homechen1990:媽的 你贏了 09/29 18:00
inspire0201:幹我還看得那麼認真XDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 18:01
ching620:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 18:02
davidjoe:笑死我了 09/29 18:03
brotherjay:(椅稻・`) 09/29 18:04
Kusovss:幹XD 09/29 18:05
mucorn:好文不M嗎? 09/29 18:08
supersissy:我以為你要接安麗勒XD 09/29 18:08
c06011:高手 09/29 18:09
PELJE:.................................. 09/29 18:10
rosami:害我認真思考了XDDD 09/29 18:13
acamen:推..... 09/29 18:15
ivansai:XD 09/29 18:15
a246811:高手 09/29 18:16
rainsilver:......... 09/29 18:16
goodtvtv:XDDDDDD 09/29 18:17
Shellingford:XDD 09/29 18:17
dogdog1227:你很劍耶 XDDDDDD 09/29 18:18
hibemi776:我公司有1個在澳洲-4打工1年,英文強到回來要做特助咧XD 09/29 18:21
SicInfit:靠北XDD 09/29 18:23
HiLondon:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 18:24
aufwi:好廢文!XDDDDDDDDD 09/29 18:24
olddadwind:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 18:26
tovshang:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 18:26
gowaa:好個外商................... 09/29 18:26
cmcmcmcm2:幹 夠靠杯 09/29 18:27
ljuber:幹 !! 我竟然推你 太靠杯了 09/29 18:28
k04121226:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 18:28
Bluebear:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 18:29
aova:浪費我時間XDDDDDD 09/29 18:32
sheng57:你贏了XDDDDDD 09/29 18:33
Zeroyeu:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 18:33
sashan:為什麼今天都是這種靠杯文啊煩死了XDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 18:39
fransice7:好吧算你贏了 ...... 09/29 18:43
a76126:各位笑什麼 瞧不起在麥當勞打工喔!!? 09/29 18:43
Simonfenix:已笑 09/29 18:45
hank11235813:XDDD 09/29 18:46
mimikillua:XXXD 09/29 18:49
svel:幾霸昏 09/29 18:51
CFfisher:好好笑XDDD 09/29 18:52
a1e:看到最後麥當勞我笑翻了XDXD 09/29 18:53
alcard22:後勁很強 09/29 18:58
manboyei:XDDDDDDDDD 09/29 19:01
akirk0823:XDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 19:03
omniallme:擠爸婚 本季最好笑XDD 09/29 19:03
atobela:哈哈 09/29 19:05
william13578:XDDDDDDDDD 09/29 19:08
ljiang:朝聖XDD 09/29 19:09
hganan000:.. 09/29 19:11
zhangweil:以後在麥當勞打工都說自己在美商做事好了 09/29 19:13
lanhow:XD 09/29 19:14
humbug:還蠻好笑的XD 09/29 19:15
g1409:XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD 09/29 19:18
rainjay520:朝聖推 09/29 19:23
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