Re: [情報] dimmu borgir貝斯手與鍵盤手離團...

[dtx3627 (JoKeR)]

※ 引述《fender1004 (1004bass)》之銘言：
: http://www.metalstorm.ee/events/news_comments.php?news_id=9345
: 哪位英文好的大大可以翻譯一下...
: 我快哭了!


Dimmu Borgir keyboardist Øyvind "Mustis" Mustaparta has issued the following
statement on his MySpace page:

Dimmu Borgirs的keyboard手Øyvind "Mustis" Mustaparta在他自己的myspace網頁上發
表了下列的訊息

"Attention to all the worldwide fans of my work with Dimmu Borgir. I feel
that I must begin my note to you all by saying that your dedication and
interest in my musical work with Dimmu Borgir has been greatly appreciated by
me for many, many years and you all have motivated me to continue to push the
creative envelope farther each and every day. You might be able to see where
this note is heading and if you are thinking correctly you will know that I
am informing you all that I am no longer associated with the band and have
left the ranks of Dimmu Borgir effective immediately.

全世界上的Dimmu Borgir樂迷注意了! 我覺得在我開始我的聲明之前，我必須先告訴你們

：我非常感謝我在Dimmu Borgir的這些年內，樂迷們對我作品的支持，是你們驅使著我持

續地每天去創作新的音樂。如果你們能夠看見這個聲明放在網頁上的話，而且如果你們朝

著正確的方向思考的話，你會知道我正要通知你們說：我已經不再是Dimmu Borgir的一員

了，然後我會馬上離開Dimmu Borgir。


My departure was not entirely of my own accord and while I had felt this
change was something imminent for my future, my time had been spent
addressing the fact that many songs written by me had not been registered
properly under my name in their credits.

我離開Dimmu Borgir並非全是我個人的專段獨行，而是當我的時間付出在音樂上，最後卻

連我的音樂都不能加上我的名字的時候，我覺得距離離開Dimmu Borgir已經不遠了。


Without naming every single track, let us just say that a good majority of
albums like "Spiritual Black Dimensions", "Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia"
and "In Sorte Diaboli" would have been vastly different had I not composed
and created as much as I actually did.

在每一首歌沒有著名誰是作曲者的情況下，讓我這樣說好了，有大多數的專輯如　

"Spiritual Black Dimensions", "Puritanical Euphoric Misanthropia" 和 "In

Sorte Diaboli"如果不是我做曲的話，是會有很大的不同的，可是卻沒有任何標示說這些

歌其實是我寫的，如同我實際上做的一樣。


(難道是指有人….)


Sadly, based on terrible gaps in the communication process and a failure to
find logical rationale for why this had been done this way found me hitting
wall after wall as opposed to finding a professional and reasonable solution
to the problem.

不幸地，基於溝通上的隔閡和邏輯思考上的失敗使得我不能找的一個專業和合理的方式來

解決這個問題。

My inquiries and investigation into the issues which I wished to resolve and
move on from would in the end find me being fired from the group. No
discussions about it, just "goodbye" (via text message).

我要求這個問題受到處理的時候，我發現我被樂團開除了，沒有任討論，只是發一封簡訊

跟我說　再見。

I can say to you that this was not a new dispute and is something that has
been going on for some years and since these are my individual creative
rights and work that are being denied of me, we shall now let the resolution
come from the lawyers instead of dealing with more dishonesty and lies on a
one on one personal level.

我可以跟你說這已經不是第一次了，這種情況已經好多年了，自從我的獨立創作被拒絕承

認是我的開始。這個問題已經不是單純的私人恩怨而是必須請律師來解決了。


On this I cannot say anymore because we will be walking into sticky legal
territory. I mentioned earlier that my fans have motivated me to create great
music again and again and they should know that I will continue to do this
and shall return to them in the not too distant future with material that I
hope will keep their musical needs fed.

到這裡我已經不能再說下去了，因為我們未來將會為對簿公堂。我早先提到我的樂

迷們驅使我持續地創作音樂，因此我會繼續的走下去，在不遠的將來，我會帶著我的音樂

重新開始，並且是讓我的樂迷覺得還想要聽更多的音樂。


In advance I will say that I thank you for notes and texts of support and ask
that you please understand that there is not much more I can say on this, nor
will be able to answer every single message that I get. I ask you to please
keep tabs on my official MySpace page. I will do my best to post what I am
legally allowed to share with you so you remain informed."

我在這裡先感謝各位對我的支持，可是同時也要請你們理解我最多只能說到這裡，還有我

也沒有辦法回覆我收到的每一封訊息。我會試著在法律的限度內，說我能說的，這樣你們

才可以知道最新的狀況。

According to Mustis, also bassist/clean vocalist Simen "ICS Vortex" Hestnæs
got fired by the band. Both Mustis and Vortex were apparently either fired or
had no other choice than to leave the group after years of disagreements.
However, this has not yet been confirmed by Vortex or anyone else associated
with the group.

根據Mustis，因為多年的恩怨(xd)，貝斯手大叔也被炒了，在非個人意願之下,不過貝斯

手大叔和其他樂團成員都沒有還沒有正式發表聲明

An official statement from Dimmu Borgir is expected to be released shortly.

Dimmu Borgir的官方聲明預計很快就會出現


----------------------再加上貝斯手大叔的--------------------------------

ICS Vortex (real name: Simen Hestnæs), the former bassist/clean vocalist for
the Norwegian symphonic black metal band DIMMU BORGIR, has released the
following statement regarding his departure from the group:


"I've really enjoyed the ride; the DIMMU years have been awesome. I look
forward to concentrating fully on my own project now, and the opening
possibility to resurrect a band or three.

我很享受在樂團裡的旅程，跟DIMMU一起的日子真的很棒。現在我專心於自己

的音樂計畫上，可能我會開始重組一個到三個團。

"A special thanks to all the crazy and lovely people I have met on the road
with DIMMU over the years, for the support from so many of you, and for the
continuing interest in my musical projects. I will always treasure the albums
and the brotherhood as it was before the cabin-fever music industry and greed
went METALLICA on our asses.

特別感謝我在DIMMU的日子裡碰到的那些瘋狂又可愛的人們，謝謝你們的支持

還有對我的音樂的支持。我依然會珍惜這些專輯和情誼，即使這個封閉的音樂產

業和貪婪已經使得它們變質 (這裡我不太確定)

"My support goes to Mustis [former DIMMU BORGIR keyboardist; real name: Ø
yvind Mustaparta], the true creative force in DIMMU for the last ten years,
and his rightful legal chase."

我支持Mustis，因為他才是近十年內樂團創作的主軸，還有他將採取的法律途徑
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→ dtx3627:我在改改看
推 coolfly:那句應該是指他們"接下來將走入一絲不茍的法律領域"@@
→ coolfly:a good majority of是"很大的一部分"的意思
→ dtx3627:原來如此  謝謝 T_T
推 coolfly:不客氣   鬧上法院實在是令人感傷啊...
※ 編輯: dtx3627         來自: 59.114.136.77        (09/02 10:38)
推 VaderChuLip:太感傷了 黑金男兒應該用刀子和拳頭解決問題才對
推 akiraz2000:........XD 樓上
推 ddtmc:前些日子才一個剛出來而已..
※ 編輯: dtx3627         來自: 59.114.135.65        (09/02 15:04)
推 thatzforeva:缺Keyboard嗎,可以到世紀帝國選匈奴
推 cymbal:這種事發生在Mayhem的話是不是會有命案...
推 miabcd199:哭哭 ..
→ YesIamNot:不過呢 這種事情既然不是第一年發生 就不要講的好像剛
→ YesIamNot:發現那樣的驚訝..你已經同意放棄還要拿回來..
推 youngerh:重組Arcturus...:p
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