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標題[外電] 低調的Iggy正在把自己推向頂尖
時間Fri Apr 24 15:48:26 2009
ESPN.com: NBA Playoffs 2009 [Print without images]
Wednesday, April 22, 2009
Unsung Iggy pops up among NBA's best
低調界的燚哥正把自己推向 NBA 最佳球員的行列
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By Kevin Pelton
Basketball Prospectus
Andre Iguodala, who hit the biggest shot of his career Sunday to win Game 1
of the Philadelphia 76ers' opening-round playoff series against the Orlando
Magic, is hardly a secret within the NBA. Iguodala is the 76ers' go-to guy
and leading scorer, and last summer he signed a new contract that will pay
him $80 million over the next six seasons. Given all that and season averages
of 18.8 points, 5.7 rebounds and 5.3 assists per game, Iguodala seems an
unlikely poster boy for the importance of advanced statistics. Yet if Shane
Battier is the "No-Stats All-Star," then call Iguodala the "Some Stats
All-Star," for traditional numbers don't quite do justice to what Iguodala
has provided the Sixers this season.
Iguodala,那個剛剛在對魔術第一戰丟進不可思議決殺,幫費城贏球的男人,
已經不算是秘密了。
燚哥他是七六人的"那個人",也是七六人陣中得分最高的,
上個暑假他才剛剛拿到一張六年80M的合約。
本季18.8分5.7籃板5.3助攻這樣還不錯的傳統三圍,
讓他看起來不太像是會被數據派稱頌的球員。
但是如果你把 Shane Battier 稱作是"數字上沒存在感的全明星"
那 Iguodala 就應該被稱作是"平凡數字球員中的全明星"。
但僅管數據如此,但是他對於球隊的貢獻總是被低估。
The first thing worth noting about Iguodala is his durability. He started all
82 games this season, the fourth time in his five-year career he has done so.
Iguodala also quietly led the league by playing just a tick under 40 minutes
a night, and he was the only NBA player to see the court for more than 3,200
minutes over the course of the year.
談起 Iguodala 的價值,第一個應該被提起的就是他的續航力。
他本季全勤82場,但是這已經是他五年來第四度達到這個目標。
另外他同時也是今年的持久王,他平均每天晚上的出賽時間,
只有比40分鐘少一咪咪(39.9),而且他也是今年唯一一位,
總出場時間超過 3200 分鐘的球員。
In terms of value to the team, those minutes add up. Like John Hollinger's
newly introduced Value Added and Estimated Wins Added statistics, Basketball
Prospectus' exclusive Wins Above Replacement Player system considers how much
a player is worth to his team above and beyond the contributions of a
replacement-level player. While other players were more impressive when rated
on a per-minute basis, Iguodala ended the year with 10.5 WARP, making him one
of 20 players around the league worth at least 10 wins above replacement.
That's certainly All-Star-caliber production, if not deserving of All-NBA
consideration. Yet Iguodala scarcely figured into the discussion for the
Eastern Conference All-Star squad.
那個今年無人能及的工作時間也應該被列入Iguodala對球隊的價值。
John Hollinger 最近提出一套 Estimated Wins Added Statistics
(幫助球隊取得的勝場數),以及 Basketball Prospectus 發展出的
Wins Above Replacement Player (就是把球員跟可替換等級球員的勝場貢獻的差距)
可以看出一個球員跟雜碎(replacement level player)相比,他為球隊帶來的價值。
如果拿來跟其他明星球員令人印象深刻,依照線性調整的數字(per36之類的數據)相比,
Iguodala 今年比起可替換球員,可以幫球隊多拿 10.5 場的勝場,
而全聯盟只有20個球員可以幫球隊拿到超過十場的勝利。
就算沒有拿到聯盟最佳陣容的肯定,這也絕對是一個全明星等級的績效。
但是到目前為止, Iggy 都還不曾在全明星陣容的討論中被提及。
The other area where Iguodala shines when we look deeper at the statistics is
a familiar one: defense. Again, Iguodala has the traditional stats, having
averaged 1.6 steals per game to rank 10th in the league. What that fails to
capture is Iguodala's ability to contain his own man. According to
82games.com, opposing small forwards averaged 16.5 points per 48 minutes and
a .492 effective field goal percentage against the 76ers when Iguodala was
playing the position this season, as compared to 20.2 points per 48 minutes
and a .495 eFG for all small forwards in the NBA this season. Basketball
Prospectus' defensive statistics also show Iguodala holding opponents 4.7
percent below their normal production -- virtually identical to Battier's
performance.
另外一個燚哥發光發熱的領域則是當我們深入檢視一個對大家比較熟悉的數據:防守。
又一次的, Iguodala 在傳統數據上有所表現,每場1.6次的抄截,是聯盟第十名。
但是這並不能真正讓大家看出他是怎麼讓對位的小前鋒感到不蘇湖,
根據 82games 的數字,對手的小前鋒,在對到他的時候,
"48分鐘"只能拿 16.5 分,而且 eFG% 降到 .492 的水準。
全聯盟小前鋒平均per48可以得20.2分, eFG%是 .495
另外 Basketball Prospectus 的數字顯示,
Iguodala 至少讓他在場上防守的人,平均績效下降了 4.7 %
-- 這幾乎等同 Battier 在場上的防守績效。
(按: 看官可以細細體會一下, Battier 一場上場時間 = 33.9 分鐘, Iggy = 39.9)
only a single vote for last year's All-Defensive teams. But using the same
methods to adjust plus-minus data that Michael Lewis drew upon in his Battier
profile, statistical analysis shows Iguodala to be an elite defender. His
defensive adjusted plus-minus last season, as calculated by current Rockets
consultant Eli Witus, was tops among wing players. While adjusted numbers are
not yet available for this season, Philadelphia allowed 7.4 fewer points per
100 possessions when Iguodala was on the court.
但是, Iggy 仍然在防守的領域中被忽視,在去年的最佳防守隊中,
他只拿到了只能算是參加獎的"一張"票。
但是我們來檢視 adjusted plus-minus data (經過調整後的 +/-)
數據分析再次證明了他是聯盟防守領域的佼佼者。
他的 defensive adjusted +/- 是所有側翼球員當中最高的。
雖然今年版本的數字還沒出爐,但是 Iguodala 在防守端的貢獻,
我們還有另外一個數據可以證明:
Iguodala 在場上的時候,對手在一百波進攻內,少拿了七點四分。
Largely because of his defensive presence, Iguodala has been one of this
year's standouts in terms of the adjusted plus-minus calculated by
BasketballValue.com, which says Iguodala is one of seven players in the
league worth more than 10 points per 100 possessions to their team. While
adjusted plus-minus is notoriously fickle, Iguodala has consistently come out
as a valuable contributor. By BasketballValue's two-year method, which
combines data from the past two seasons to reduce noisiness, Iguodala jumps
into the top five amidst impressive company.
因為他在防守端巨大的影響力,
讓他在今年成為在 adjusted +/- 中最出類拔萃的球員之一,
全聯盟只有七位球員在平均100波進攻中, 能幫球隊取得十分的優勢,
Iguodala就是其中之一。
如果你覺得一年的數字還不夠,那我們還有兩年的,
在兩年的樣本空間中,Iguodala adjusted +/- 的表現則更進一步的,
變成了聯盟的前五名。
ADJUSTED +/- LEADERS, 2007-08 AND 2008-09
When it comes to advanced stats, Iggy ranks among league's elite.
Player Team Adj. +/-
LeBron James CLE +14.5
Chris Paul NOH +10.8
Dwyane Wade MIA +10.6
Kobe Bryant LAL + 8.0
Andre Iguodala PHI + 7.9
Lamar Odom LAL + 7.8
Tim Duncan SAN + 7.7
Iguodala also ranked amongst the league's top 10 players in adjusted
plus-minus during his second season, 2005-06, and has had a positive impact
every year of his career.
Iguodala 從 05-06 年開始,就在這個排行榜上排在前十名了,
而且在他進入聯盟的五個年頭中,這個數字從來沒出現過負號。
So if Iguodala has good traditional stats, and his advanced stats are in some
ways even better, why hasn't he gotten more attention? It doesn't help that
he's part of a crowded group of wing players in the Eastern Conference, with
Atlanta's Joe Johnson, Boston's Ray Allen and Paul Pierce, Indiana's Danny
Granger, New Jersey's Vince Carter and Orlando's Hedo Turkoglu all vying for
whatever attention doesn't go to LeBron James and Dwyane Wade.
那所以, Iguodala 有了還不錯的傳統數據,
他在數據派的統計中也證明他的卓越非凡,
那為什麼他到現在還是沒受到更多的注意呢?
這些優秀的數字仍然沒辦法讓他被列入那個已經有
Joe Johnson, Ray Allen, Paul ierce, Danny Granger, Vince Carter, Hedo Turkoglu
等人被列入的東區明星搖擺人名單,更別提已經盛名天下的 Wade 跟 James 。
The bigger factor might be this: Iguodala has yet to make an impact on the
national stage. There's a natural tendency to doubt the statistics of players
on teams .500 or below, something Granger has dealt with this season. Other
than Granger, the players in the above group have played for teams that have
made noise in the postseason. Even Johnson was in the spotlight when the
Hawks took Boston to seven games a year ago. Iguodala's game-winner will go a
long way toward raising his profile, and if the 76ers can give Orlando a run
or even pull off the upset in this series, he might earn the respect the
statistics say he deserves.
最重要的應該是這個: Iguodala 還沒有建立震動天下的功業。
對大多數人來說,檢視一個在五成或以下的球隊的明星球員,
總是有諸多的懷疑(問問今年被選入明星賽的 Danny Granger 準沒錯)。
但是上述球員除了 Danny Granger 以外都進入過季後賽,
如同當中最低調的 Joe Johnson 靠著將波士頓人逼入第一輪第七場的深刻印象,
贏得屬於自己的尊敬,
Iggy 的絕殺已經讓大家看到他可預見的更成功的未來,
如果今年的七六人可以讓超人嚇出一身冷汗,
甚至對他們說:"到此為止",
那他會贏得那些數據已經幫他證明,也是他應得的尊敬。
Kevin Pelton is an author for Basketball Prospectus.
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※ willyt:轉錄至看板 NBA 04/24 15:48
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推 freemanx:好文推推~ 04/24 15:54
推 unicotexalex:推 04/24 16:04
推 II33:太會了!!! Iggy衝呀!!!! 04/24 16:18
推 AItoai:在球隊中感覺也沒什麼人可以替補小前鋒 每場都覺得他好累 04/24 16:28
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推 momofishj:七六人產品 續航力保證 -.- 04/24 19:38
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