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http://0rz.tw/tkf4N Posted on Sun, Nov. 29, 2009 Inside the Sixers: Contemplating Iverson's problematic return 回家就是「解答」?問題大了! By Kate Fagan Inquirer Staff Writer Within the 76ers' world, the question of Allen Iverson's returning has always been met with head shaking, the gesture clearly conveying, That bridge has been crossed. And let's not cross it again. AI該不該回來?每次有人這麼問,七六人球團總是搖頭說不。意思很明白:大 錯已經鑄成,絕不該走回頭路。 There was a sense of time served, bygones passed, a fresh start earned. 有一種「苦過了、痛過了,該向前走了」的感覺。 Now, as instantly as Lou Williams broke his jaw, the response to this years-old question has gone from, 'No, never,' to 'We're considering it.' 結果,Lou Williams剛摔斷下巴,這道年經題的答案,突然間從「不,不可能」 變成了「我們正在考慮」。 It did feel as if karma was calling for A.I.'s return. Last week, the former all-star point guard parted ways with the Memphis Grizzlies, a few days later announcing his retirement. On Thursday, Williams had his jaw wired shut. He will spend eight weeks on the sidelines. 確實,冥冥之中AI似乎注定要回家。上星期,這位前全明星後衛跟灰熊隊分道揚 鑣,幾天後宣布退休。緊接著,L-Will就在週四動完下顎手術,展開長達八週的 休養期。 In 2006, the Sixers traded Iverson to the Denver Nuggets. Since then, the vibe around the organization has been relief. But now that its 13-player roster is missing its starting point guard, the team's philosophy on Iverson's drama apparently has changed. 2006年,七六人將Iverson交易到金塊隊。從此,球隊上下似乎都輕鬆許多。但 現在,13人的球員名單一旦折損了先發控衛,球隊對Iverson的風風雨雨,顯然 一點都不在意了。 With this change seems to come an admission that the path the Sixers have been traveling since trading their franchise player hasn't been as paved and purposeful as one might think. 這樣的轉變似乎暗示著:送走了看板明星的七六人,並沒有踏上想像中那條堅 定而明確的重建之路。 How else do you explain spending three seasons talking about signing only quality people? About protecting a young nucleus of talent? About planning for the future with this nucleus? And then suddenly staring at a banged-up roster that's crawled to a 5-11 start, deciding maybe you do want Iverson after all? 畢竟,這三個球季來,球隊始終堅稱「只看天分,不亂簽約」、「這群年輕潛 力是球隊骨幹,必須加以保護」、「小朋友是球隊未來的主人翁」,不是嗎? 怎麼兩個人掛傷號,開季打了個五勝十一敗,就突然決定要給Iverson一張合約 了呢? He wasn't the answer last year, or this summer, or a month ago. Was he not the answer until the Wachovia Center was half full? Was he not the answer until the Sixers became lowest - by a long shot - on the city's totem pole of professional franchises? 上個球季沒跟「解答」簽約,今年季前或一個月前也沒跟「解答」簽約。是否 Wachovia Center只剩一半觀眾,他才變成了「解答」?是否七六人在費城四支 職業球隊中觀眾人數敬陪末座(離倒數第二可遠了),他才變成了「解答?」 If one injury is enough to bring Iverson back, to shake up the organization's plan since his departure, then the plan probably wasn't solid in the first place. 如果一人受傷就足以讓Iverson回來,讓他離開後的球隊藍圖徹底動搖,那麼這 張藍圖恐怕一開始就畫得不清不楚。 Nobody is arguing, especially given Williams' absence, about the Sixers' need for a roster addition. On Friday night against the Atlanta Hawks, the Sixers were without three of their top five scorers: center Marreese Speights (partially torn medial collateral ligament), Williams, and power forward Elton Brand (tight right hamstring). 無庸置疑,特別是在Williams缺陣的情況下,七六人確實「求才若渴」。週五 對上老鷹的比賽中,七六人五大得分手有三個沒上場:中鋒Marreese Speights (膝蓋內側副韌帶部分撕裂)、Lou Williams和強力前鋒Elton Brand(右後腿 肌腱緊繃)。 They had only 10 players available, and Sixers coach Eddie Jordan started rookie Jrue Holiday at point guard. 他們只有十名球員可用,七六人教頭Eddie Jordan將菜鳥控衛Jrue Holiday推 上火線。 So, yes, the Sixers need a roster booster, no question. But Iverson could be a roster implosion. For the Sixers, this feels a little like soul-selling: It will move some tickets, it will win a few games, then next year when he's gone, where will the Sixers be? And who will they be? And what will they stand for? 所以說,對,七六人需要補強戰力,這沒問題。但弄來Iverson也許是飲鴆止渴 。對七六人來說,感覺好像是一筆出賣靈魂的交易:票賣得多一點、戰績變得 好看些,但明年他說掰掰之後,七六人又何去何從?他們的定位在哪裡?又留 下什麼形象? Not much. It would be an admission that swingman Andre Iguodala is not your franchise player and will not carry you through bad times. That Brand, your 2008 big-time free-agent acquisition, is just another player on the roster. That caring about your team's character - always a line that summoned thoughts of Iverson - was just a company line. 不值一提。換來AI等於是承認Iguodala並非看板球星,不足以帶領隊伍走出低 潮、等於是承認Brand--號稱是2008年重量級加盟--也跟其他球員沒啥兩樣、等 於是承認所謂的球隊文化建構--總是讓人想到Iverson的一句口號--也只不過是 行銷台詞罷了。 Last summer, Sixers general manager Ed Stefanski specifically did not re-sign point guard Andre Miller, who eventually signed with the Portland Trail Blazers, because he believed in Williams and Holiday. He could have signed a veteran backup point guard in case of injury. He did not. 今年夏天,七六人球團經理Ed Stefanski刻意不與控衛Andre Miller續約,他 最後去了波特蘭拓荒者。這是因為Stefanski對Williams和Holiday有信心。當 時要再簽一個老鳥當備胎絕不是問題,但他沒這麼做。 Stefanski hired Jordan for his offensive system, preaching patience as the team learns this complicated system. Iverson's dedicating himself to the Princeton offense after slipping into a Sixers uniform is about as likely as the Memphis Grizzlies' winning the NBA title. Stefanski雇用Jordan是為了貫徹他的進攻哲學,在球隊努力搞懂這套複雜戰術 的同時,要大家稍安勿躁、耐心等待。如果Iverson真的套上七六人球衣,那麼 他融入普林斯頓系統的機率,大概跟灰熊隊拿總冠軍差不多。(灰熊:...) Sadly, bringing back Iverson, 34, would be the most exciting thing to happen to this team since it traded him. It would be flashy, but also desperate and false. If you are confident in Jordan's system, which is predicated on teamwork, signing a player infamous for creating his own offense at the expense of the team's offense basically would render this season useless as progress toward future success. 可悲的是,如果34歲的Iverson真的回娘家,那將會是自他離開以來,球隊最令 人振奮的消息,有如曇花一現:華麗、絕望、而空虛。如果對Jordan強調團隊 合作的系統有信心,那麼簽下這名誰都知道會犧牲團隊來成就自我的球員,基 本上等於讓今年球季的辛勤紮根,付諸流水。 One reason the Sixers drafted Holiday was because he could play point guard to Williams' shooting guard. If an X-ray hadn't revealed Williams' fractured jaw, we would have seen a starting backcourt of Holiday and Williams against the Boston Celtics last Wednesday night. 當初選來Holiday的動機之一,就是因為他能以控球後衛的身份,跟打得分後衛 的Williams搭配成後場雙人組。要不是X光片照出Williams的下顎骨裂,上週 三對波士頓的比賽中,我們就會目睹Holiday X Williams的成效了。 This backcourt might be the future. And half of it - Holiday - could spend the next two months proving he belongs. 這對後場球員可能是未來之所繫,而其中一位、Holiday,可能會在接下來的兩 個月裡,證明他夠資格留下。 Iverson is the quick fix, ultimately a step away from improvement. Iverson是誘人的解答,但最終卻會讓球隊停滯不前。 The Sixers know that they aren't relevant. They know that the gaps in their roster, like the seats in their arena, need filling. So fill them as best you can right now. 七六人知道現在的實力還不夠。他們知道隊伍陣容的缺陷--就像球場裡的空位 ,都需要填滿。那就盡力填滿吧! Iverson, though, is the past. 不過Iverson已經屬於過去。 He might, temporarily, become the present. 也許短期內,他可以是現在。 But he's not the future. 但他絕不是未來。 -- 也許我們想念的,是對他的那種信仰。 當年的七六人能讓人打從心裡湧出希望。 曾幾何時,七六人不再創造奇蹟, 也讓球迷失去了信仰。 我想,我們永遠不會忘記當年的AI, 但你心裡也知道:放不下的是初戀,不是初戀情人。 (為什麼會變成這樣的結論啊...= =) -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.109.224.28 ※ 編輯: hanway 來自: 140.109.224.28 (11/30 03:21)
SULICon:XD 11/30 05:04
ihx00:應該很多人無法接受,但真的很中肯 11/30 06:18
II33:我覺得大家都想好多 呵呵 11/30 09:12
kenny781558:推這篇文章 簽回AI短時間可以 但是沒什麼未來性可言 11/30 09:37
terrorist38:任誰34歲了都不會是球隊的未來... 11/30 09:48
chinwa29:AI能在七六退休不是很好嗎 11/30 09:49
terrorist38:AI可以是精神領袖,但是球隊不會再圍繞著他運轉 11/30 09:50
terrorist38:很好,所以呢,這篇文作者真的是想太多了 11/30 09:51
DarkChilles:以球隊的角度來思考 簡直是中肯到爆炸 11/30 10:07
arkod:AI 當然不肯只當精神領袖阿 不然怎沒有其他隊要簽他 XD 11/30 10:22
arkod:這篇真的是很中肯 感謝 hanway 翻譯 :) 11/30 10:23
ediotediot:這篇很棒,終於有除了護航文之外的解讀了 11/30 11:00
ediotediot:簽名檔更棒,我看了全身雞皮肐褡 11/30 11:00
ediotediot:放不下的是初戀,不是初戀情人。 11/30 11:00
ediotediot:但是他給我們一輩子的感動,一輩子都會記得。 11/30 11:01
ediotediot:不管你怎麼說,永遠支持AI回娘家,我16歲的76人 11/30 11:01
ediotediot:16歲的初戀,AI加油,嘗試著融入隊友吧! 11/30 11:02
markwu123:這是一個炒短線啊。不過加入了洋蔥的短線。 11/30 11:04
markwu123:不過要去思考的是L-W回來之後,是要怎麼定位AI 11/30 11:04
markwu123:和AI他自已能不能適應如果不能當先發的話? 11/30 11:04
markwu123:不過老實說,AI+ai+L-W+名牌。真的很令人賞心閱目xd 11/30 11:05
willyt:我也覺得 Kate Fegan 大姐的疑慮是有道理的。 11/30 11:07
willyt:不是今天他回了費城,之前的問題就統統消失了... 11/30 11:07
markwu123:還有小羊。還有小綠。還有熟悉的老隊友XD 11/30 11:07
terrorist38:經過了這些,還是要AI自己會想,如果他真的喜歡費城 11/30 11:34
terrorist38:七六人應該是他的最後一站了,猜想他自己也希望如此 11/30 11:37
terrorist38:這邊的人大多都還是喜歡他的,綜合各點,Come on 11/30 11:41
terrorist38:他是AI,別這麼見外 11/30 11:41
DarkChilles:回來就是當作拼到退休了 怎麼開始就怎麼結束(鼻酸) 11/30 11:42
Loj:dilemma 11/30 12:47
weichang921:樓上多了一個e lol 11/30 13:54
weichang921:喔不 是多了一個m orz 11/30 13:54
Edraison:其實長期在76人版的都知道 AI回來只是解決短期問題(未知) 11/30 14:33
Edraison:對未來的建設性真的不大 但講是這講 身體還是誠實的 11/30 14:34
Edraison:如果AI真的回來 還是很會興奮 這真的是一種矛盾的感覺 11/30 14:35
momofishj:推 11/30 18:39
timothytw:我不禁想要推一下` 11/30 18:48
timothytw:但是我是想要把作者推下樓 11/30 19:01
oncee:誰說忘不掉的是初戀??就有人是忘不了初戀情人~~還多的是人 11/30 22:50
hanway:應該說,沒忘記初戀情人,但對方已經不適合自己啦 12/01 01:22
Sadan:簽個兩年短約如何? 12/01 23:47
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- < 作者: timothytw (萬敗球隊萬惡球迷) 看板: Sixers 標題: Re: [外電] 回娘家就是解答? 問題大了! 時間: Mon Nov 30 18:57:28 2009 現在的AI跟當年的AI根本就是不同人不同用途不同地位。 只是剛好他回籠而已。拿MLB來比喻好了(雖然這比喻不太恰當。 就好像一年一簽的克萊門斯。更何況他比較便宜。 AI回來也不會取得什麼球隊第一人的地位。但球隊第一老是一定的。 對於老球迷來說,當然希望他回來終老,但是要是讓他坐當家的位置。 未免也想太多了。對我們七六人來說,他只是左手。 是說右手Iggy跟雙腿名牌兄,你們開季到底在幹嘛。 AI回來是不錯的交易。但是未來絕對不是交在他手中。 請反AI迷放心。AI雖然過氣了。但是他仍然是老七六人心中的大眼睛寶貝。 不過我們沒有要拿他去跟什麼王牌比。 -- 你並沒有辦法參與什麼,特別是在偉大這件事情上面。 你只能看,然後讚嘆。所有的運動都是如此。 http://blog.pixnet.net/toshiooh ---timothytw -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 114.136.226.92 ※ 編輯: timothytw 來自: 114.136.226.92 (11/30 18:57)
hanway:我想大家都樂見AI回來吧,只是他能接受精神領袖的位子嗎? 11/30 19:09
hanway:如果他能接受,那當然是皆大歡喜囉。 11/30 19:10
kenny781558:回來可以 但小威回來時請打替補 11/30 19:27
mayeve:小威回來 先發跟替補不衝突吧,應該是放Holiday回去替補XD 11/30 19:43
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- < 作者: willyt (優質ㄌㄔ世界一流) 看板: Sixers 標題: Re: [外電] 回娘家就是解答? 問題大了! 時間: Mon Nov 30 19:41:55 2009 我倒是覺得不應該怪 Brand 跟 Iguodala 大家想念 Iverson 是一回事,但是跟找戰犯沒關係, 真要找就找 Eddie Jordan 吧 一個可以在主力球員低潮的時候,靠媒體放話靠腰工作態度的教練 跟一個在主力球員幾乎場場大三元外加抄截還要上場三十八分鐘的時候, 在媒體大談"某主力球員run持球戰術有問題,所以球隊需要一個playmaker"的教練 那都你說就好啦,你今天是被請來當教練,又不是請你來玩NBA live 王朝模式 你接下這個工作的時候,你就應該知道你手上有什麼樣的球員 而不是拿著一個新的系統給球隊,然後適應不良就說是球員的問題, 這種放話是非常不負責任的行為, 想想看在這種情況下,球隊的氣氛會好嗎? Iguodala 這場還差兩個火鍋 5*5 耶 講成這樣,難怪 sssfrost 說不要找一個以前曾經排擠自家助理教練Thibodeau的教練 現在我完全可以理解了。 -- To DJCandy: 台北冷不冷 [01/09/2009 13:38:42] ★DJCandy 很冷 冷的機機叫 [01/09/2009 13:38:51] To DJCandy: 叫看看(誤) [01/09/2009 13:38:58] ★DJCandy 機機機機機機機機機機 [01/09/2009 13:39:04] To DJCandy: 簽名檔 get! [01/09/2009 13:39:18] -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 134.208.44.180
terrorist38:簽名檔是怎麼一回事 囧 11/30 20:22
terrorist38:將帥無能累死三軍 11/30 20:30
terrorist38:近來球隊的進攻跟防守都有不小的問題,沒什麼章法 11/30 20:42
terrorist38:總覺得少了什麼,球隊打不出自己的特色 11/30 20:49
cz:如果是這樣 我倒擔心AI回來會不會變成替死鬼 11/30 21:56
ediotediot:其實假喬丹自己也很怕,如果AI回來戰術勢必得更改 11/30 22:38
ediotediot:不過我想大家的話題可能又會搞到為什麼AI自己不調整... 11/30 22:39