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標題[外電] Hollinger Scoutin':12-13 76ers(替補篇)
時間Fri Sep 21 22:08:28 2012
Philadelphia 76ers: 2012-13 roster
2012-13霍家拳門陣容分析與預測:費城七六人隊
By John Hollinger | ESPN.com
Originally Published: September 20, 2012
http://tinyurl.com/9t6mjnp
★ RESERVES / 替補輪換球員
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THADDEUS YOUNG, F
Scouting report
+ Left-handed layup machine with speed in transition and nose
for rim.
左手無恥上籃狂人,且在快攻中擁有風一般的速度,另外他跳起來的時
候鼻子跟籃框一樣高。
+ Left dominant but improved right hand. Likes to attack bigs
on drives from wing.
雖然是個左手球員,但是他的右手有長足的進步。習慣在兩翼面框對抗
禁區球員。
+ Very undersized for 4. Great pick-and-roll defender but
doesn't rebound.
無論如何,以四號來說他有絕對的身高劣勢。他有非常出色的檔拆防守
能力,但是籃板差強人意。
Analysis
Young continues to be extremely effective within his peculiar
role, and with the league trending toward smaller lineups he's
only becoming more useful. While it still may be a stretch to
start him full-time at the 4, at 6-8, 220, he's been such an
effective two-way player that they may need to consider it.
Thad持續在七六人賦予他的特殊任務中展現他的超高績效,尤其當現在
的聯盟吹起一股小陣容風的時候,他的風格就變得更加實用。雖然他擁
有能夠站先發大前鋒的能力與表現,但是就使用上,作為一個三四兼修
的球員對他來說還是比較順手的。
Young is a great pick-and-roll defender with good hands and
takes lots of charges, which offsets his lack of size and
physicality against bigger 4s. His bigger shortcoming,
actually, is that he doesn't rebound, ranking just 65th out of
70 power forwards and 69th on the defensive glass.
Thad對抗檔拆時,績效十分可怕:他能夠在Show Hard的時候用他的大
手對抗外圍的後衛,也能夠在內縮的時候製造對手的進攻犯規或抄截,
這都讓他在對抗比他還要碩大的四號球員時擁有特殊的優勢。他作為PF
唯一的缺點是他的籃板績效不佳,在所有的69個大前鋒當中,他的防守
籃板率是倒數第五名。
However, offensively he's a huge boost because he gets layups
without turnovers. Young shot 68.7 percent at the rim and got
four such attempts per game; overall he shot 50.7 percent and
had the fourth-lowest turnover ratio at his position. He draws
disappointingly few fouls (54th at his position in free throw
rate) and never makes 3s, but overall was a major catalyst.
The jumper, however, is still a work in progress; Young hit
36.6 percent from beyond ten feet and made one 3-pointer all
season.
但是無論如何,他在進攻端對七六人有著絕佳的加成效果,能夠切進去
上籃且避免失誤。他在籃框周遭有著68.7%的驚人命中率,而且一場比
賽當中他平均能夠殺到那個範圍四次,這只比Drew少一次。另外他整體
命中率高達50.7%,另外在大前鋒的位置上,他的失誤率
(To%)是第四低。
不過他製造的犯規不夠多,在所有大前鋒當中他的罰球率
(FTA/FGA)排
第54,另外還缺乏三分的射程與準星,但總而言之放他上場總是令對手
頭大而非讓自己人頭大。他的中距離投籃到目前為止仍在加強中,他在
10呎之外的命中率是36.6%,另外整季他只丟進一個三分球。
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LAVOY ALLEN, PF
Scouting report
+ Long, wiry-strong big man with good mid-range jumper. Good
post defender.
具有高度,且相鋼板一樣強悍的長人;但是跟樓上不一樣的是他擁有不
可思議的中距離手感。另外還具備低位防守能力。
+ Decent mobility on defense. Not a great rebounder or shot
blocker.
他在防守上的機動性令人驚豔,但在籃板保護或弱邊補防上無法稱得上
頂尖二字。
+Good passer but not a creator. Never draws fouls. Can finish
at rim.
他有良好的傳球意識,但不負責幫隊友創造機會。他也很少上罰球線,
但在藍底下有非常不錯的得分技巧。
Analysis
The second-to-last pick in the 2011 draft proved a great value
for the Sixers, becoming a rotation player and their most
effective big man in the conference semis against Boston.
Defense will be his calling card -- he has the strength to
push opponents out on the post and the length to challenge
shots.
這個在二輪尾巴的選秀在去年選秀當中帶給七六人超乎想像的價值,他
成為了一個固定的輪替球員,且是七六人陣中
(尤其在ECSF對抗綠軍時)
效率較為出色的長人。「防守」是他名片上神聖而不可或缺的自我介紹,
他在把人推出禁區這個領域非常出色,另外他的身高還能支撐他挑戰對
手每一次的投籃。
Allen's motor also ran hotter than many suspected out of
college, as he had a solid rebound rate and competed, albeit
with a high foul rate. For the season the Sixers gave up 6.6
points per 100 possessions less with him on the court,
although his other data wasn't as strong.
天普王的實力與潛力也超出當初大學時期球探們對他的想像,他有著很
不錯的籃板率與對抗能力,即便他仍需節制自己的犯規,但仍然有非常
出色的表現。即便數據上看不出他的出色,但是當他在場上時,七六人
每一百波進攻可以省下6.6分的失分。
Offensively Allen just shoots midrange jumpers. He took
three-quarters of his shots away from the rim and earned a
laughable 14 free throw attempts the entire season, but he
shot well from everywhere -- 63.8 percent inside ten feet,
40.9 percent from outside. The problem, obviously, is the
proportion of each, which led to one of the lower true
shooting percentages at his position. But Allen is a good
high-post passer and a passable offensive player overall;
combined with his defense, that makes him a viable rotation
player at either frontcourt slot.
至於進攻端,天普王比較可靠的工具大概就只有中距離跳投了。他有四
分之三的出手都在禁區外,且因為他整季只要到了14個罰球而常被拿來
取笑;但是他球場的所有地方都能出手,在十呎內的命中率高達63.8%,
在十呎之外則是40.9%。不過問題在於天普王的進攻模式讓他在真實命
中率
(TS%)在大前鋒位置上敬陪末座。但是Allen在高位也是非常不錯的
傳球者,質與量上都可稱優秀。他可被接受的進攻績效配上他驚人的防
守能力,讓他成為在前場兩個位置上都能成為一個可靠的輪換球員。
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DORELL WRIGHT, SF
Scouting report
+ Long forward who can catch-and-shoot jump shots. Excellent
elevation on J.
在小前鋒位置上一柱擎天,更誇張的是他能夠catch 'n shoot。他的跳
投出手點夠高,能夠為他避免受到封阻或干擾。
+ Very poor ball handler. Can't get to rim on his own. Runs
floor well.
相較於未持球的進攻績效,他的持球進攻能力有等於沒有。無法替自己
創造進攻機會甚至殺入籃下,但是他無球跑動非常的積極。
+ Length an asset on defense but effort inconsistent. Good
rebounder.
他的身高帶給他防守上的優勢,但是績效不太穩定。另外在籃板的判斷
與保護上相當出色。
Analysis
For a guy who was summarily dismissed from the Warriors' plans
and given away over the summer, Wright has put together some
awfully solid numbers. Last season he had a player efficiency
rating of exactly 15.07 for a second straight season, shooting
36.0 percent on 3s and a stellar 68.4 percent at the rim. He
missed nearly everything in between (31.6 percent between rim
and 3-point line) and rarely draws fouls, but since more than
half his shots were 3s he finished eighth at his position in
secondary percentage.
即便Wright繳出不顯眼但是仍稱穩定的績效,但是他仍然被勇士制服組
排除在未來計畫中。去年他的PER是15.07,不過他已經是連續兩季恰好
壓在聯盟PER的平均值上;另外他在三分線外有著36.0%的命中率,在藍
底有著68.4%,但是在這兩個區域中間的,他的火力基本上就隱形了,
外加他基本上賺不了犯規;但是雖然他有一半以上的出手都在三分線外,
但是他的命中率在小前鋒當中有著排名第八的二次進攻命中率。
Wright is a lousy ballhandler with a high, erratic dribble,
but he knows it and rarely bounces it in traffic -- he had the
fifth-lowest turnover ratio at his position as a result. He
also ranked in the top third of small forwards in rebound rate.
他糟糕的運球姿勢跟過高的重心讓他成為一個糟糕的持球者,但是他深
刻瞭解他的缺陷且從來不嘗試自己作不到的事情,這從他在同位置中第
五低的失誤率
(To%)可以看出。另外在籃板的保護上也非常驚人,在所
有小前鋒當中他的籃板率是第三高。
Wright was miscast as the Warriors' perimeter stopper -- it
sure as heck wasn't gonna be Monta Ellis -- and as a result
took some lumps at the defensive end. Opposing small forwards
had a 17.9 PER against him, according to 82games.com, and
Golden State gave up 3.6 points per 100 possessions with him
on the court. Subjectively, I don't think he's bad, but
there's no question Golden State's defense improved with
Brandon Rush or Richard Jefferson on the court in his place.
Wright沒有像勇士預期中成為一個外圍防守的鎖鑰,而他又不像Monta
這麼會進攻,因此他犯錯總是會被誇大,最終成為交易的籌碼。他的
對手有著17.9的PER,而他在場時勇士一百波進攻會多丟3.6分。但是
我不認為他有這麼差,但是我想在他離開後Brandon Rush跟Richard
Jefferson將會對他們的防守有所幫助。
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NICK YOUNG, SG
Scouting report
+ Scoring guard who excels in catch-and-shoot. Can get jumper
off over anyone.
Catch and shoot的專家,在場上所有地方都能拿了就射。
+ Tall for a 2 and decent athlete, but an underachieving
defender. Bad rebounder.
他在二號位也擁有絕對的高度優勢,但是在防守上完全浪費了他在此方
面的先天優秀條件,甚至還不會抓籃板。
+ Has weak handle and rarely takes more than one dribble.
Passes even less often.
他持球進攻不太行,下球基本不超過一下就收,彷彿地板很燙。另外還
不太傳球。
Analysis
You can't score an emptier 20 than this guy. A neat summary of
the Nick Young Experience is that he averaged better than a
point every two minutes and still finished with a player
efficiency rating well below the league average. Let's just
say the non-scoring categories are a bit wanting. Out of 67
small forwards, Young was 66th in assist ratio, 66th in
rebound rate, and 61st in pure point rating. Young's assist
ratio was the worst of any player with a usage rate over 15.
一樣是得二十分,你沒辦法找到比他更沒有貢獻的球員了。對於他的評
價總是整齊劃一:他兩分鐘就能得到一分,但是他的PER卻低於聯盟平
均。打開天窗說亮話,除了得分他樣樣不能。在全數共67位小前鋒當中,
他的助攻率是第66位、籃板率是第66位、PPR是第61位。更糟糕的是,
在進攻依賴指數
(Usage%)超過15的所有球員當中,他絕對是最吝於傳球
的那一個。
Young doesn't get to the basket much, but he definitely can
stroke it. He made 36.5 percent of his 3s and 44.6 percent of
his 2s beyond 16 feet. However, he has a poor
short-to-midrange game (26.3%) and averaged less than a field
goal per game at the rim. As a result, his true shooting
percentage was ordinary.
他沒有辦法切到籃下,但是他光射就能射進去。他有36.5%的三分命中率,
而在16呎外他的命中率是驚人的44.6%。但是他接近籃框的命中率是悲慘
的26.3%,另外每場在藍底命中的次數不到一次。所以計算真實命中率
(TS%)
對這傢伙來說沒有什麼意義,因為就跟他原本的命中率差不多。
Defensively, Young has some ability, but his focus comes and
goes and some of the bigger 3s can overpower him. He wasn't
particularly bad, but his metrics were slightly negative
across the board. Additionally, his inability to rebound
remains baffling considering his leaping ability. Young had a
worse rebound rate than Luke Ridnour, Derek Fisher, Chris
Duhon and Nate Robinson, among others, which is just
embarrassing.
他有一些防守的技巧,但是他在防守端完全不具任何注意力,只要比他
高能射三分就能吃掉他。他當然沒有這麼差,但是你在數據表上很難找
著能夠幫他護航的數字;另外他在抓籃板上的無能完全愧對了他的身高
與優秀的彈跳能力,
他的籃板率甚至比Ridnour/Fisher/Duhon/Nate都
來得還差,除了丟臉我真的不知道該說什麼。
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KWAME BROWN, C
Scouting report
+ Injury-prone big man with terrible hands and poor instincts
at both ends.
一個手部動作不靈活且在攻守兩端都不傑出的中鋒,外加紅十字屬性。
+ Good pick-and-roll defender but subpar shot-blocker. Good
rebounder.
他對檔拆的防守非常出色,但是補防的能力卻比平均還差;不過他至少
很會抓籃板。
+ Can make short turnarounds in post. Awful foul shooter. Poor
ballhandler.
他可以在籃框附近做出很不錯的轉身,但是前提要能抓穩球。另外他罰
球真的很差。
Analysis
Brown outdid even his own recent standards of injury-proneness
by exiting after just nine games last season. In the past six
seasons the most he's played in a season is 66 games, and he's
averaged just 43. This adds another baffling layer to Philly's
zest for acquiring him: Even if you think he's good, he's not
going to be available for long.
即便他原本就很會受傷,但是Kwame超越Kwame,去年他因為胸肌撕裂傷,
九場比賽他就掛免戰牌了。過去六個球季他平均出勤場次是43場,最多
不過66場。這對於七六人而言是另外一層風險,也更讓我們疑惑為什麼
七六人對他這麼友愛,就算你認為他績效不差,那他也沒有辦法持續性
的貢獻他的能耐。
But he's not good, either. At best he's a solid backup who is
neutral defensively and a major drag offensively, and that's
looking through rose-colored glasses. His best metric is his
solid rebound rate, and his pick-and-roll defense is helpful.
But he's a bad weakside defender and doesn't block shots,
offsetting those plusses.
更糟糕的是他並沒有這麼好。當然他的優點很明確,用紫羅蘭色的眼鏡
來看:他是個很不錯的防守型型替補,但是總是被他的進攻拖累。他在
數據上唯一正面的功能是他的籃板率相當出色,而且他面對檔拆的時候
毫不含糊。但是他的弱邊補防與敲火鍋的能力非常差,這就完全抵銷他
績效上美好的那個部份了。
Offensively, he's a bad foul shooter, bad outside shooter, and
struggles to score in the post or catch in the paint. He draws
a lot of fouls and gets second shots, but otherwise he mostly
takes shots that opponents happily conceded and clogs up the
paint, and he doesn't always play hard.
進攻端故事很簡單,他不會罰球、不會外射、不會在低位得分、沒辦法
妥當的在深位接到球。雖然他還是要到很多犯規,或者拿到很多進攻籃
板,但是他常常在他不擅長的地方進行進攻,或者塞滿禁區裡面的空間,
迫害己方的進攻端,使對手開開心心揚長而去。另外他還有驅動力量的
問題,沒有辦法持續性的努力堅持到底,滿滿都是問題。
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ARNETT MOULTRIE, PF
Scouting report
+ Long, quick big man who can jump. Slender build. Can hit
mid-range jumper.
他很高。但是以他的高度,他超快,又能投籃。身形修長但對抗稍弱,
能夠在中長距離出手。
+ Must improve defense and focus. Poor ballhandler. Very good
rebounder.
改善防守端的能力以及專注力是他的首要課題。持球進攻不佳,但是籃
板抓得不錯。
Analysis
Moultrie is a good athlete who can shoot, and those skills
could make him a productive role player in the pros. He's a
bit of a tweener between 4 and 5, with a limited handle but
lacking great strength, but if he can knock down midrange
jumps shots he may be able to play fairly regularly at the 4.
阿尼有著很不錯得運動能力,而且他還能遠射;這些能力讓他有成為高
績效角色球員的可能性。他是個四五兼修的搖擺人,身體控制不差,唯
獨碰撞能力缺乏;但是只要他能在中長距離投進小皮球,把人拉出禁區
那問題就不大。未來他主要的位置應該是個四號。
My Draft Rater wasn't crazy about him because he had a very
low rate of blocks for a big man, because his ballhandling
numbers were pretty bad, and because Mississippi State played
an unusually weak schedule for a major conference school. But
he's clearly an NBA athlete, and if he keeps his
sometimes-idling motor engaged as a pro, he should prove
useful in much the way Lavoy Allen was a year ago.
我在評價選秀球員的時候並沒有對他有過多的期待,因為他的阻攻率
(Blk%)非常悲慘;而且說難聽點,密西西比州大雖然在一個強悍的分區,
但是他們排賽程的時候很明顯有挑軟柿子吃的嫌疑。但是有NBA等級的
體能條件,只要七六人能改變他的心態問題,要讓他複製出天普王的成
功當然也是不無可能的。
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ROYAL IVEY, PG
Scouting report
+ Defensive-minded combo guard with good lateral movement and
intensity.
防守為取向的康寶後衛,能守兩個位置,橫向移動優秀,對抗性佳。
+ Decent midrange shooter but struggles from distance.
有著可被接受的中距離,但是距離一長就會出問題。
+ Below-average ball handler and decision-maker. A
stopgap-only point guard.
以一個控球後未來說,他的持球能力與決斷能力在平均線以下。很顯然
只是個一號位置暫時性解決方案。
Analysis
Ivey played more than expected, getting into 34 games as the
Thunder struggled to find a backup point guard solution, but
gave a pretty miserable performance that ultimately relegated
him back to bench duty. Partly this was because he was trying
to be a 3-point specialist, taking 53 of his 73 shots from
downtown, but he's not cut out for that -- only 18 of them
went in.
去年因為Maynor受傷,他超出預期為雷霆打了34場球,但是他的績效則
仍然一如預期的悲劇,最終讓他失去了替補出場的時間。當然一部分原
因也是因為他腦充血,妄想作為一個射手,在他總共73次的出手中,其
中53次他選擇了在三分線外出手;但很不幸的,這53次的嘗試當中,他
只有18次破網。
(按: Hollinger你是多嚴苛阿,18/53好歹也有.340....)
Alas, his other numbers were nothing to write home about
either. He also appears to have lost some athleticism -- in
354 minutes he had one offensive rebound and zero blocked
shots -- and his overall statistical production was heinously
bad, yielding just a 4.52 PER.
更令人為他難過的是,他其他的數字看起來也沒有貼出來的必要。他似
乎還失去了他部份的運動能力,在354分鐘的亮相當中,他只收穫了一
個進攻籃板,另外還有一個甜甜圈口味的火鍋
(0個);另外他的整體績
效也痛樣令人悲傷:
PER 4.52。
Somehow, this performance lured Philadelphia into offering him
a contract. While Ivey is a solid defender and a locker-room
plus, he'll need to produce much better results to keep his
foothold on a roster spot for long.
但是不知道為什麼,這樣的表現還能讓他贏得一張費城來的合約,可能
是暑假的十大不可思議之一。不過如果他希望能回歸之前的防守強度,
且能夠幫助教練掌控休息室的氣氛,那他必需要下定決心讓自己變得更
出色,不然很快你可能就會看到他消失在球員名單上了。
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我覺得Hollinger的問題還是在於對角色球員或年輕球員過度嚴苛,
過份追求Dynamic的結果就是翻完感覺這陣容毫無生氣lol
總之當作參考,內容蠻有價值的,不過要切記看球員不是只有一個角度。
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Definitely one of the all-time under-rated sixers. Glad to see
him finally getting some league wide recognition the last few
years (All-star, All-NBA defense, Team USA). As much as he's
been bashed on these boards over the years I'm sure he'll be
missed. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wV0ubjT6eDk
76ers'
ACE of Spades in the past Decade, Andre Iguodala #9 forever.
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推 kira925:not a creator應該是沒有創意 09/21 22:10
→ kira925:.....再看又好像你是對的 09/21 22:10
→ willyt:應該說創造力,但是用創造力三個字感覺又會跟創意混淆 09/21 22:22
→ willyt:所以我琢磨很久才翻成"不負責幫隊友創造機會"XD 09/21 22:23
推 hanway:nick young rarely takes more than one dribble 是通常不 09/22 01:21
→ hanway:會運超過一下。這篇蠻不錯的! 09/22 01:22
→ hanway:然後good elevation on J是說跳投出手點很高 09/22 01:22
fixed.
※ 編輯: willyt 來自: 111.243.224.108 (09/22 01:26)
推 hanway:看完這篇,同學們應該對製造犯規的英文用法非常熟悉了! 09/22 01:28
→ hanway:................doesn't draw fouls. 09/22 01:28
→ willyt:很多人都不會製造犯規,Bynum除外XDDD 09/22 01:29
→ hanway:(而且我還寫錯,是「不會」製造犯規)y 09/22 01:30