Re: [新聞] IM的教練談Ganzi事件

[darksign (離雲)]

有一些翻譯錯誤

※ 引述《allqwdd (乳乳)》之銘言：
: Thus, I gave the amateur SC1 players a certain amount of time so that they
: could either join a pro-team or move to another house. So during this period,
: it's true that every day life and the practice environment weren't that good.
: Also, it was a period where funds were lacking, and the team was being run in
: a very difficult situation. Some of the players even came to me and offered
: 50,000 won, 100,000 won ($45~90) for the food budget. I want it to be clear
: that this was the situation.
: 因此，我給了那些SC1的選手們些時間去決定他們要加入職業戰隊或是要去別的
: 訓練室。所以在這段時間，整個練習的環境並不好。同時在資金的缺乏下，那時候
: 真的很困難，有些選手甚至來找我要些伙食費($45~$90)。

有些選手甚至來找我，並願意捐出$45~90美金作為夥食費。

: In October of 2010, not long after the team was formed, I saw Mvp and Ganzi
: talking. Ganzi had only played SC2 for about one or two days. There was one
: seat left in the house, and the SC1 amateurs were starting to leave one by
: one, and there was one player I wanted to accept once I could handle an extra
: player. Around that time, he was one of the top level players in the
: business. However, I trusted Ganzi and gave him that spot. And I informed him
: beforehand that the team house situation wasn't very good. Ganzi told me that
: all he needed was a place to play, and he joined the team.
: 在2010年的10月吧，那是戰隊成立後不久，我看到MVP和Ganzi在聊SC2的事。
: Ganzi那時才剛打SC2幾天而已。訓練室那時只剩一個位置，SC1的選手也幾乎陸續
: 離開了，我在想我應該還可以留一個位置給特別的選手。
: Ganzi那時可以說是水平很高的玩家，我也相信他所以我把他留下來了。
: 我也誠實跟他說戰隊現在狀況不好，Ganzi回答我沒關係，他需要的只是有地方可以
: 練習，所以他加入了我們。

Ganzi那時候才剛打SC2一兩天而已。當時的戰隊還有一個空位，而且SC1的選手們也正在
一個一個離開了，當時有一個選手我很想要讓他加入。那位選手當時是SC2職業選手中的
高手。但是，因為我信任Ganzi，所以我選擇把那個位置讓給了Ganzi。

: Though Ganzi had only started SC2, I knew that Ganzi had been a diligent
: player since he was a SC1 amateur, and I believed that he would do well
: alongside Mvp with time. And it was so, as he gained a lot of skill and took
: #1 on the ladder in 2.5~3 months.
: 在打SC2之前，Ganzi是SC1很厲害的業餘玩家，所以我相信他在MVP旁邊學習很快可以
: 進步很多。這也成真了，他在短短三個月左右就打到了宗師1並學到了很多技巧。

雖然Ganzi才剛開始打SC2，但是我知道Ganzi從星海一以來就是一個很認真的業餘選手。

: I hadn't signed a contract with Ganzi, and it was his decision to go to a
: team with an environment where he thought he could play well. So it might
: seem a funny that I'm criticizing his decision, but I think he didn't keep
: proper etiquette. I had taken on a player who had only played StarCraft for a
: few days, and I had done things to help him, and that hurt me more. What kind
: of coach would have taken in a player who had only played for 2~3 days?
: 我並沒跟Ganzi簽約，這也是他自己決定要去環境比較好的戰隊發展。所以當我
: 跳出來批評這件事的時候我看起來像無理取鬧。但我真的覺得他忘恩負義，我把一個
: 只SC2幾天的選手帶起來，我也做了很多事去幫助他，最後這個結果讓我很受傷。
: 有哪個教練會收一個只打過兩三天的選手進戰隊?

proper etiquette只是指他覺得Ganzi處理這件事情的方式很不好，沒有禮貌。
忘恩負義在中文有很強烈的貶義，原文比較克制。

: But there was another hurtful event to come. Not long after, Ms. Kim Ga Yeon
: requested a three way talk regarding the Ganzi case, with all the team
: coaches and Ganzi present.
: 但後來又發生了更難過的事。這是在Ms. Kim Ga Yeon要求三方面談Gznai事件不久後
: 發生的。

Ms. Kim Ga Yeon要求的三方會談包括所有戰隊教練以及Ganzi本人到場。

: According to SlayerS and Ganzi, I had 18 SC1 players in the house, and had
: received 500,000 won a piece from each of them. Also, they claimed that no
: one practiced and just goofed off, that the environment was bad, and that I
: was not qualified to be a head coach.
: 據Slayers和Ganzi的說法是我以前有18個SC1的選手在宿舍，並對每個選手收500,000韓元
: 但他們卻完全無法練習，環境實在太糟糕，他們覺得我不夠格當總教練。

第一句OK，第二句是說
沒有人在練習，他們都在打鬧，環境很差，他們(SlayerS & Ganzi)覺得我不夠格當總教練

: I acknowledge that as mentioned before, because we shared the space with SC1
: players, the environment wasn't the best overall, and general mood wasn't
: that good. And I admit that I received fees from the players. All those
: things contributed to a poor environment. But if he really couldn't stand
: staying in such an environment, I want to ask why that never reached my ears.
: 我前面提過，我們是SC1和SC2共用訓練室，環境真的很差。我用那些會費嘗試
: 維持這個環境，如果Ganzi真的對這環境這麼不滿，我很想知道為什麼我從來
: 沒聽到過。

我承認，因為我們和SC1的選手共用訓練空間，環境並不是最好的，而練習室的氣氛也不怎
麼好。我也承認我有跟選手收錢。這些事情都是構成環境不好的原因。

: I clearly admitted the things that I should have, and did not object at all
: to Ganzi going to SlayerS. That was the conclusion of the day. I never asked
: for a suspension for Ganzi, and I don't believe I have any reason to be sorry
: to Ganzi even now. Nor do I have any reason to be sorry to SlayerS, who
: acquired a teamlessGnaiz. This is simply a problem between Ganzi and myself.
: 我應該要捍衛自己讓Ganzi不能加入Slayers的，但我沒有這麼做，這就是結論。
: 我從來沒要求要對Ganzi做禁賽處分，我也不覺得我需要對Ganzi或Slayers做任何
: 的道歉動作，Slayers就是得到了一個沒有戰隊身分的選手，如此而已。

很明顯我承認了所有我該承認的，也完全沒有反對過Ganzi轉隊到SlayerS，這就是結論。
我從來沒有要求將Ganzi禁賽，我也不認為我有任何對不起Ganzi的地方。我也沒有對不起
SlayerS，他們得到了一個沒有戰隊身份的Ganzi。這一切問題都只是我跟Ganzi之間的事。

: Honestly, I don't know who was the 'victim.' I was hurt at that meeting in
: front of everyone, and I even considered quitting this business. I'm thankful
: to my players who stayed on through those bad conditions until now, and I
: will work even harder for them. I want to do more for my players in the
: future.
: 老實說我也不知道誰是所謂的犧牲品，那時我被大家指著鼻子的時候我一度想要
: 放棄。現在我很感謝那些跟我一起度過困難的隊員，未來我會更為大家努力。

這裡用受害人會比犧牲品好

: That is all I have to say about Coach Kim's allegations about Ganzi, IM, and
: SlayerS.
: 這是我必須要講清楚的，IM Ganzi Slayers之間的事。
: 原來這年頭教練都是賠本在當，真辛苦。
: Boxer、Won、Hirai 都是唷
: 還有，我比較想知道那倒底是甚麼事情讓你們開始杯葛Slayers...
: http://www.inven.co.kr/webzine/news/?news=48786
: 英文翻譯來自TL

其實我覺得有時候翻譯的時候要注意，不要加進太多個人的解釋
對於口氣的拿捏還是要小心
不然很可能變成英文明明在說討厭啦~啾咪，然後中文變成在烙狠話(?

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推 capssan:所以你懂可愛的小摩擦嗎
不懂這個梗，求解釋Q_Q
→ ctx705f:賽後訪問就是要火上加油看起來才爽XD
→ pkghj666:樓上XD
推 kira925:那個可愛的小摩擦...lol
推 eric1112:我可以請你當英文家教嗎~啾咪
我現在在學校教中文每個小時有十五美金，可以比照辦理嗎>/////<
推 capssan:18149
推 pkghj666:可愛的小摩擦  <==18149有
笑惹，感謝XD
※ 編輯: darksign        來自: 72.229.119.161       (10/18 17:39)
推 eric1112:上次有個家教後來哭哭就不幫我"上"了
推 kh1216:幫推
推 allqwdd:謝謝指證，有些地方我看太快了 沒翻得很好
→ dreamdust:抓ST教練出來指著他鼻子說:說 你有沒有煽動杯葛Slayers!
→ dreamdust:再抓IM教練出來指著他鼻子:說 你有沒有向戰隊選手收錢!?
→ dreamdust:然後開始無限跳針就贏了:P
→ capssan:那個..IM教練是他自己跳出來的 包嫂沒有指他
→ dreamdust:沒有啦，我只是從Anti角度去想攻擊點而已~~
推 TheMidnight:最後抓包嫂的____:說 你有沒有說實話
推 TheMidnight:這整件事真的是又臭又長 orz ...