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※ 本文轉錄自 [Meto_e] 看板 發信人: Scott <ScottLWI@mouse-potato.com>, 看板: Meto_e 標 題: Re: Circulating storms 發信站: Space Science and Engineering Center (Mon Sep 27 11:28:18 2004) 轉信站: itcz!news2.wam.umd.edu!nntp.abs.net!news.maxwell.syr.edu!news.doit.wisc Origin: castanea.ssec.wisc.edu Gene Seibel wrote: > "R. Martin" <russell.martin@wdn.com> wrote in message news:<41575122.64ED@wdn.com>... > >>Gene Seibel wrote: > > >>Congratulations! You have posted almost the only thing worth reading >>on this NG is the past 24 hours. It sounds kind of like you may be >>describing what is called a mesoscale convective vortex (MCV), except >>that those are usually not that close to stationary. How big are they? >>About the size of a Midwesetrn state, say Kansas? How did you observe >>them (radar reflectivity, visually, visual satellite images, ...)? I >>can't think of an underlying condition or conditions that have been >>postulated to enhance both mesoscale mid-latitude vortices and >>hurricane-scale tropical vortices (except maybe global warming ;-) ), >>but that doesn't mean there isn't one. > > > Saw them on Weather Underground radar. One I remember in Kansas was > probably about 100 miles in diameter. Stayed pretty much stationary > for the better part of a day. Same thing in Texas. The one in Texas > dropped a foot of rain on a community and was big news that night. I > was in San Antonio about 100 miles away with clear skies. Now that my > curiosity is up, next time I will pay closer attention. There are typically ~20 or so MCVs per warm season, according to some papers by Davis and Trier. If you use a RUC vortex finding algorithm, you find maybe 40/year -- although some of those are dry, and not the kind you'd see on a radar image or satellite loop. MCVs evolve out of MCSs that are in low- shear environments. I also cannot think of a reason why their numbers would increase with time, other than interannual oscillations associated with drought/wet years. But that's an oscillation not a trend. <http://www.cira.colostate.edu/ramm/visit/mcv.htm> There was an excellent example of an MCV over Oklahoma in June this year (the 7th?) as well as over eastern NM/ western TX on July 20th. The following 2 urls require java: Some MCVs do nothing with the weather: <http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~scottl/satmet/IA_Aug2004/IAMCV.html> Here's the case from NM/TX: <http://www.ssec.wisc.edu/~scottl/satmet/NMMcv.html> Scott