作者esther81828 (狗狗)
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標題[外電] What now for the Thunder?
時間Mon Jun 25 20:05:46 2012
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What now for the Thunder?
It didn’t even take 24 hours and already Thunder fans were making moves.
Talking trades, talking future additions, talking new coaching possibilities.
還沒超過二十四小時,雷霆隊的粉絲們已經開始有所動作了。他們討論著關於交易、關於
未來的補強、關於新的領導可能性。
The Thunder could’ve swept this thing and hung a banner in Oklahoma City and
there’d be discussion about what to do next. Fans gonna be fans. It’s part
of the fun.
雷霆隊已經風靡過一陣並且在奧克拉荷馬高高掛起了旗幟,現在有很多人在討論下一步該
怎麼做。做為球迷,這是樂趣之一。
But in terms of the Thunder’s realistic offseason plans, don’t expect much.
They have three free agents — Derek Fisher, Nazr Mohammed and Royal Ivey —
and two guys eligible for extensions (James Harden and Serge Ibaka). As well
as Scott Brooks, whose contract is up.
但是說到雷霆實際上的休季計畫,別想得太多。他們在這一季將會有個自由球員,老漁、
Mohammed和Ivey,而且有兩個球員有資格續約(伊巴卡和哈登)。而這也包括Brooks。
Depending on decisions made with some extraneous parts, the Thunder are
essentially guaranteed to have the same team back next season.
根據某些部份來推測,雷霆很有可能在下一季保持一樣的陣容。
Also, important note about this team: They were in the NBA Finals, and very
clearly good enough to win the whole thing. Fundamentally speaking, there isn
’t too much wrong with the roster when you’re in The Finals, and seven or
eight total plays away from winning it.
而且,重要的是:他們打到了冠軍賽,而且本來非常有可能拿下總冠軍。基本上,如果你
的球員組成能讓你們打進總冠軍賽,那這樣的組合就沒有什麼太大的問題了,而且只差了
幾個play就可以獲勝。
“We don’t have to make any major changes,” said Kevin Durant at Saturday’
s exit interview session. “We don’t have to get a whole new team in here.
We just have to stick to what we’ve been doing.”
「我們這一季不會有太大的變動。」雷帝在星期六離開前的訪問時說道:「我們不需要新
的團隊,我們只需要好好做到我們已經做到過的事情就行。」
If you’re talking major trades, or kicking around bold moves, you clearly don
’t fully comprehend the Thunder model. I realize it’s fun to do, to talk
about this guy for that, or if adding this piece would make OKC the bestest
team ever, but just understand it’s not realistic. On the docket for this
offseason is not trading James Harden and Serge Ibaka for Dwight Howard or
Kevin Love. On the docket is figuring out a way to get at least one of them
extended, with a solid financial plan to keep the other, and the rest of the
core intact.
如果你在談論主力球員的交易或是任何大膽的舉動,那顯然你一點都不了解雷霆的模式。
我相信這樣還滿好玩的,在那邊說說該走誰該來、或是如果加入誰誰誰雷霆就會變成最棒
的球隊,但請了解,那是不實際的。現在最重要的事情不是交意哈登和伊巴卡去換魔獸或
是Love,而是想辦法和其中一個人續約,並且在薪資結構許可的狀況下留下另外一個,然
後確保核心的其他人都還在這裡。
You should know by now that it’s about the process. And that involves
building a core that grows together. They’ve grown into a title contender.
One good enough to win. Obviously there’s room to improve, but I’m not sure
what trade or move puts the Thunder closer to a championship then they
already are.
你們該知道現在一切都還是過程。而這包括建立一個一起成長的核心。他們已經成長到足
以爭奪總冠軍的程度了,好到足以獲勝。他們顯然還有進步的空間,不過我不確定還有沒
有任何的交易或是改變可以讓雷霆比現在更接近總冠軍。
The Thunder are essentially in the same position as a year ago. The best
offseason move they can make is really none at all. Let the players stew on
this feeling and come back hungrier and better next season.
基本上,雷霆現在的狀況就跟去年一樣。他們能做的最好的改變就是什麼也不做。就讓這
些球員們維持在這種感覺之中,並且在下一季的時候以更強的狀態回來。
(And don’t forget, OKC will be making one very large addition this offseason
by default as well: Eric Maynor will be healthy and return next season. Don’
t underestimate his value. He may just be a backup point guard, but he’s
maybe the best in the league at it and is a big part of making OKC’s second
unit a legit weapon. It’s no time for what-ifs, but if Maynor were healthy, I
’m pretty convinced the Thunder are hoisting a trophy. He adds that much.)
(而且別忘了,雷霆隊已經會有一個非常棒的補強了:Maynor下一季將會健康地出現在球
場上。別低估他的價值。他或許只是一個替補PG,不過說不是整個聯盟裡最好的替補PG。
而且他會是雷霆隊一個相當強而有利的武器。現在沒有什麼時間一直討論「如果如何如何
的話」,不過我想如果他健康的話,他絕對可以幫助雷霆隊得到一個冠軍盃。他對雷霆是
很有幫助的。)
Extending Harden is probably the first order of business and by the way he
spoke Saturday, it doesn’t seem to be a concern.
和哈登續約大概是第一要務。而且根據他星期六的發言,這應該沒什麼好擔心的。
“I’m just leaving it up to my agent and Sam,” Harden said. “They’ll do a
pretty good job of working it out. I’m focused on several other things right
now. But when the time is [right], they’ll figure it out and it’ll be done.
”
「我把這問題交給我的經紀人和總管。」哈登說,「他們會做好協議的。我現在專注在其
他的事情上,不過當時機正確的時候,他們就會達成共識並且完成這一切。」
He did say he loves playing in Oklahoma City about 20 times, so that’s
something. And also this: “This is something special here,” he said. “A
dynasty is being built here. So we’re winning, we’re having fun and we’re
brothers. The other stuff, you can’t buy it.”
他說了大概二十次他愛在這裡打球,所以就是這麼一回事。而且他也說:「這裡有很特別
的東西。這裡正在逐漸建造出一個屬於我們的王朝,所以我們贏球,我們在這裡打得很快
樂,而且我們是兄弟。這些事情是錢買不到的。」
Is that him sort of hinting that he’s willing to take less to stay? I’m not
sure. But Harden does seem to have that kind of attitude and even he were
posed with a having to take a little less to stay with the team, it seems he’
s leaning that way. The way he’s always spoken, his unselfish attitude and
desire to win definitely has him more interested in being well paid in OKC
rather than being a max player in New Jersey.
哈登在暗示他願意少拿一點薪水留下來嗎?我不確定。不過哈登看起來是這樣想的,而且
他似乎覺得就算他少拿一點留在這球隊也是值得的。他一貫的說話方式、他無私的態度以
及他對勝利的渴望,讓他更希望在雷霆得到好的回報而不是在籃網成為最大的球員。
My feeling? Harden gets an extension, and everything he wants. Ibaka goes
into restricted free agency. Pending Maynor’s recovery, Fisher is gone. I
think he’d love to be back, but I also think he wants to play. And with a
healthy Maynor, there’s not much need for Fisher. Mohammed will depend on
Cole Aldrich’s development. And Ivey, I kind of expect him to continue his
role a token veteran bench guy.
我的想法是,哈登可以續約,然後得到他一切想要的。伊巴卡成為限制自由球員,而在
Maynor完全復原之前,老漁已經離開了。我想他會很樂意回來,但是我同時也認為他更想
要打球。而如果擁有健康Maynor,那麼老漁就沒有什麼空間發揮了。Mohammed的去留將取
決於Aldrich的發展性,而Ivey,我希望他繼續做一個老將替補。
With Brooks? I’m close to convinced he’ll be back, as long as the Thunder
hit close to the ballpark on his number. He may not be the best game
management coach in the world and he has his faults, but the organization
loves stability and continuity, and making a serious change on a team that
was this close to winning an NBA title would seem to be an overreaction. Sam
Presti and the Thunder don’t tend to overreact.
至於Brooks呢?我想如果雷霆給了他中意的價碼,他會留下來的。他或許不是最會判斷比
賽的教練,他也有他的問題,不過假設要用這些原因踢走一個為團隊帶來穩定性和持續性
、並且讓球隊做出重大改變足以衝擊總冠軍的教練,好像有點反應過度了。雷霆團隊和總
管並沒有打算過度反應的傾向。
Brooks answered questions Saturday as if he was fully planning on returning
next season and with the fact the Thunder have already offered him an
extension, it’s more of a question of when rather than if. Because clearly
the Thunder want him back, which I think was initially a question. Now, it’s
just a matter of how badly both sides want the relationship to continue.
Brooks在星期六回答了關於下一季的計畫,也證實雷霆已經擬了一份合約給他,現在不需
要討論是否要留下他,而是何時會簽約。因為雷霆當然會希望他留下來,而這是我一開始
覺得會是問題的部份。現在唯一的問題只是雙方到底有多大的程度希望他們的關係繼續下
去。
“I’m sure in the next couple of days we’ll sit down and get together,” is
all Brooks really said when asked about his contract situation.
「我確定再過幾天我們就會坐下來好好談談這件事。」關於他的合約,只有這些是真正由
Brooks嘴裡說出來的話。
There are limited, but important questions to be answered, but the reality
is, this team is very, very good as is. The core is built and forgetting
about extensions for Harden and Ibaka, there’s at least one more season with
this entire group as is.
還有一些很小但是很重要的問題需要答案,不過事實是,雷霆現在非常非常的好。他們建
立起了核心,而且假設不管哈登和伊巴卡的續約問題的話,他們至少還有一年可以維持現
在這完整的陣容。
Which means, not much has to change and they should have a chance to be right
back at it next season. It’s about sticking to the long-term plan, which
right now, is about making it even more long-term.
這也代表,沒有太多事情需要改變,而且他們在下一季將會有機會再度衝擊總冠軍。這需
要長遠的計畫,而他們現在正在想辦法讓這一切維持得更久。
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這幾天不在家剛好有機會看了最後一場的重播。
然後我發現不看轉播只看照片實在不夠啊!
有一些畫面一些其實很重要的事情在報導和照片裡是沒有的。
在最後一節只剩下幾分鐘的時候,
雷帝和西河被換下來,放替補上去打完剩下的時間。
西河本來坐在板凳上一臉臭,有人拍拍他的肩膀,不過他只是一直轉頭往左邊看,
http://i.imgur.com/ifBMR.jpg
後來他站起身往旁邊走過去。
http://i.imgur.com/NwjeG.jpg
雷帝把毛巾披在脖子上,坐在板凳上盯著自己的膝蓋。
西河走過去,然後抵住他的頭跟他說話。
http://i.imgur.com/YE2Lh.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/IojJm.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/7kSWA.jpg
我不知道西河到底跟雷帝說了什麼,
但是我瞬間熱淚盈眶XD
最後雷帝跟他說了Thanks,
我覺得這是整場比賽裡我最印象深刻的畫面。
每次都是雷帝在安慰大家安慰西河,
這是我第一次看見西河居然是安慰別人的那個人啊。
難得他不腦衝不幼稚,他也有看起這麼成熟的一面。
這大概是我在最後一場球賽裡面看見最有價值的東西了XD
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