推 lowatre:基本上那影音就是在講今天的比賽，也說整個系統不變 02/13 02:43
→ lowatre:感謝monmo整理~ 02/13 02:45
※ 編輯: monmo 來自: 115.43.51.67 (02/13 02:53)
推 wubai32:唉 好像在作夢 02/13 02:57
推 voon:如果教皇是白鬍子，碟龍很可能變成艾斯，最後都GG了！ 02/13 03:05
→ CW4:大空胖今天用了Rondo的signature move... 02/13 03:13
→ rangertsao:教皇的號碼是911 02/13 03:19
推 CW4:他的天分實在很棒 結果因為高層一件對他大概也沒多大好處 拙劣 02/13 03:19
→ rangertsao:小胖太蠢 小老闆太混蛋 02/13 03:20
→ CW4:的人事處理 要當箭靶了lol 現場看球的只管跟著噓 小老闆再自我 02/13 03:20
→ rangertsao:對小胖是覺得他太白目會氣他....對小老闆卻是咬牙切齒 02/13 03:21
→ rangertsao:的憤恨了 02/13 03:22
→ rangertsao:這幾天充份的感受到黑暗原力的過程.... 02/13 03:22
→ rangertsao:Fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate 02/13 03:23
→ rangertsao:leads to suffering. 02/13 03:23
→ CW4:感覺良好的順應民意 到時候才換老闆幾年球隊就洗的差不多了.. 02/13 03:25
推 AK3pt:只能說小老闆真的很糟 02/13 03:28
→ AK3pt:老馬能給小老闆一個金臂勾嗎 02/13 03:29
→ monmo:以球員的進步小胖是真的沒話說 每年都有東西在進步 除了速度 02/13 03:30
→ monmo:什麼技巧都能學...就是太年輕氣盛自負了點 希望學到教訓... 02/13 03:30
→ monmo:然後別說幾年球隊洗的超不多 過去一年已經洗了半隊以上了... 02/13 03:31
→ monmo:真王牌屈臣氏愛神都屬於免洗型 OKUR/AK退或換隊不意外 02/13 03:32
→ monmo:朋黨群或許隨小胖動向動見觀瞻 Bell也不久了 大概就菜鳥們 02/13 03:32
→ monmo:AL:幹我根本就是被詐騙...當初說好的名人堂教練常勝球隊勒!? 02/13 03:33
→ monmo:Boozer:留個TE先讓你們爬高高再重重跌下 崩潰真輕鬆 02/13 03:33
→ monmo:Deron:聽說我今年還承諾讓AL進入全明星行列是吧...... 02/13 03:35
推 AK3pt:從正在重建轉到準備重健 02/13 03:36
→ monmo:覺得到時候8M->米粉頭 C.J->毛護衛還不鳥小胖打招呼機會不小 02/13 03:37
推 CW4:今天已經卯起來餵球輸誠 想讓AL脫離中立派啦 02/13 04:01
推 Lacrimosa99:推冰山球衣,在Ostertag身上異常巨大的冰山... 02/13 06:04
推 semicoma:本日額度: monmo買的skull candy DW版耳機被semicoma燒了 02/13 07:15
推 CW4:以為是耳機其實是隔音罩 帶著打球就不用聽場邊指示call play了 02/13 07:30
推 CW4:老史 真的看不膩 當年毀掉一堆想看歐拉對喬舟誰才是冠軍 還有 02/13 07:44
→ CW4:老巴再度挑戰的人的夢 根本就一進入冠軍賽就是反派... 02/13 07:45
推 semicoma:老史女兒散發出的冷豔感也很有反派女人的味道(咦?!) 02/13 08:22
推 GJ94ekm4:話說回來 迂迴的詢問應該不是破題... 02/13 08:46
推 CW4:陷小胖於不義呀 明知道猶他州是A片州還叫他放閃光 02/13 09:00
推 steo:monmo說的太好了,Deron當然有責任,但是老闆才是最大的元兇 02/13 09:19
→ steo:我再提一次如果這季繼續亂打,下季前可以考慮把毒龍送走 02/13 09:19
→ steo:說真的到那時也不要浪費Bell的時間了,他對的起猶他 02/13 09:21
→ steo:CJ可以考慮,AL和8M留一個,Fesenko,黑娃,Evans續簽,等Tomic 02/13 09:22
推 goopa:剛又看了一次97年對火箭第六場比賽 老史真的太讚了 02/13 09:31
→ goopa:Ostertag那場也表現的很不錯，可惜是不是場場如此... 02/13 09:31
→ monmo:喔喔 原句是用"破冰船"的詞... 所以我選用破題的說法 02/13 10:22
→ monmo:想強調"打破話題的開始"的氛圍 02/13 10:22
推 MOTONARI:我們不叫浪費BELL的時間吧...他如果想拿冠軍早就去唬人了 02/13 10:23
→ monmo:小胖應該是想吐槽:你們想用這問題開始一切發問嗎? 02/13 10:23
→ monmo:他是想在教皇手下打球而回來的...這也算某種浪費 02/13 10:23
→ monmo:對了半顆馬 我朋友說AirMax也在路上了 至少這雙別燒..... 02/13 10:24
→ monmo:還好我百般考慮後 決定不先買Deron的鞋.....Orz 02/13 10:24
→ monmo:附帶一提 教皇來爵士的第二戰拿下第一勝 就看Corbin了 02/13 10:35
推 steo:我的意思是如果走上重建的話,讓Bell去其他隊對他比較好 02/13 10:38
→ steo:不然讓他就會變成現在的Anthony Parker 02/13 10:38
推 taxi777:最近除了爵士也沒有聽說哪個老闆對總教練有百分百的支持了 02/13 11:14
→ taxi777:可能不久前還有個塞爾提克吧 但是現在連覺是都失守了 02/13 11:14
→ taxi777:爵士哪時候變成這樣的球隊了 有這樣的老闆感到有些可恥 02/13 11:15
推 frogchine:最近幾乎每年換一套球衣 我連這都覺得是小老板亂搞 02/13 13:00
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作者: monmo (Gentleman monmo) 站內: UTAH-JAZZ
標題: Re: [爆料] 本日額度
時間: Sun Feb 13 14:45:02 2011
本來是想找摩艾臉外電的原文
不過原文也是語焉不詳 只知道"率領"是中文自己加的
他的原意只有說"教皇應該對於Boozer來而且贏球感到不爽"
至於他到底怎麼認為Boozer跟教皇的不爽有何關聯倒是沒有解釋
我個人是傾向"公牛"這個對手是個癥結 但摩艾的結論跳太快...
教皇不可能因為對手是Boozer而且贏球就不爽
但可能因此牽連到一些心結的激化 這點Deron亦然
否則我們才剛贏球 輸公牛也不多 今年敗的更慘/連敗都沒事
怎會贏完金塊小輸給東爵就鬧這麼大.........
倒是因此找到一些東爵舊將的外電 還不錯看 只節錄關於爵士的部分
Like everyone else in the NBA, the Bulls were surprised to learn Thursday
that longtime Utah Jazz coach Jerry Sloan suddenly decided to step down
after 23 years on the job.
Boozer表示驚訝
“I was shocked and sad a little bit,” forward Carlos Boozer said.
“The NBA, we lost a great one when he retired.”
一些震驚難過 NBA失去偉大人物
There have been media reports citing a growing rift between Sloan and former
Illinois star Deron Williams — including an incident Wednesday night during
a game with the Bulls — as the reason Sloan left so abruptly. But Boozer,
who spent six seasons with the Jazz before signing with the Bulls over the
summer, doubts the accuracy of those reports.
Boozer緩頰 表示對對外界新聞也持疑
“I can’t speculate because I’m not in that locker room anymore,
but I’ll tell you this: From all my time being there, no one could
push Jerry out of coaching,” he said. “He was in a position where
he could leave whenever he wanted to leave.
我無法評估因為我已經不在裡面 但以他過去的經驗
他認為任何人都無法趕方丈出門 只有方丈自己想走的可能
“I don’t believe that Deron pushed him out. I don’t believe that
management pushed him out. That’s what I believe, but I’m not there.
All I know is, when I was there, he ran it.”
他認為胖子跟高層都無法趕人
New Jazz man
Replacing a Legend is never easy, but Sloan’s departure has provided an
opportunity for former DePaul star Tyrone Corbin to be a head coach for
the first time. Corbin was promoted from assistant coach, and there’s a
feeling he could keep the job beyond this season.
“I was fortunate enough to coach him,” said Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau,
who was an assistant with the Minnesota Timberwolves when Corbin was a
player. “He’s a great guy, a great teacher, a great communicator,
and I think the fact that he played in their system and worked under
Jerry is going to be a great asset for him.”
么午T教練在灰狼當助教時 Corbin在他手下打過球 一些鼓勵跟讚美
===========================================================================
另一篇
You may have heard reports Jerry Sloan quit the Jazz after 23 years
because of a rift with point guard Deron Williams?
Carlos Boozer and Ronnie Brewer have. And the former Jazz players are
not buying it.
Boo跟小酒替胖子緩頰
"I can't speculate because I'm not in the locker room anymore," said Boozer,
who signed with the Bulls after playing six seasons for Sloan. "But I'll tell
you this: From my years being there, nobody can push Jerry out of coaching.
He was in a position where he could leave whenever he wanted to.
"I don't believe Deron pushed him out or that management pushed him out. …
All I know is that when I was there, (Sloan) ran it."
跟前面那篇一樣
Brewer said that until Wednesday, "I thought (Sloan) was going to coach
another five years because he was so passionate about the game, he enjoyed
coming to work every day and was such a fixture on the sideline."
小酒原先認為教皇還會再執教另外5年 他享受他的工作
Brewer, who played his first three seasons for Sloan, said of the reports
that Williams caused his ouster: "I think it's a little more than that. I
know D-Will. He's a good guy. The guys in that locker room are good guys.
And I think they were shocked and disappointed as well.
他認為外界新聞有些些過火 他跟小胖熟 認為他是好人
那邊的球員也都是好人 所以他認為球員應該也會震驚跟失望
"I really don't know how much to read into that. But it's basketball and
when you have a team, it's like a family atmosphere. As everyone knows,
families argue and sometimes have disagreements. You have that on every
team, but you have to be able to move on and look forward."
他說他知道不多 但認為團隊籃球總會有爭論 但還是會往前進
Williams, a former Illinois star, said much the same to KFAN radio in Salt
Lake City: "I don't want to say we've had a rocky relationship, but we've
had our disagreements over the years, probably no more than any other coach
and player have. … We're both very stubborn and I think that's where we
clashed. But one thing we always agreed on is that we wanted to win."
小胖說他跟教皇都很固執 不會說關係有多好 也是有分歧
但總是一樣的想要贏
Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau has so much respect for Sloan, he accepts Sloan's
"it's time to move on" explanation.
"With Jerry, there's nothing he hasn't been through," Thibodeau said in
reference to the clashing-with-Williams report that came out of Tuesday
night's loss to the Bulls. "I think he was being totally honest, it was
time to move on. You don't let one disagreement … he has handled everything
that comes his way with dignity and class.
"He stands for everything that's good about the game and the profession.
He's an all-time great. He might even be the best. To do it the way he did
it for that long is incredible."
T教練相當推崇教皇 他認為教皇見過各種大風大浪
而最後的處理也是走的相當有尊嚴跟格調
認為他是史上偉大的教練 甚至可能是最偉大的一個
Boozer said he left Sloan, a Bulls icon as a player who won 1,127 games at
the helm for the Jazz, a voice mail: "I wished him the best of luck and
told him it was an honor playing for him. Good luck finding happiness
in retirement."
Boozer發短訊給教皇 告訴他希望他一切好運並且告訴他在他手下打球是他的榮幸
並祝他退休一切愉快
Boozer also texted Sloan's replacement, former De Paul star Ty Corbin,
to say good luck.
他也發給Corbin 祝他好運
"I don't think anybody saw anything like this coming," Boozer said of
Sloan's departure. "He's old school. He only asks one thing: play hard —
and stay together. That's what he taught us every day, and that's what we
did."
Boozer認為沒有人樂見教皇離去這樣的事情
過去他的諄諄教誨就是努力打球 團結 這些是他每天教的也是我們在做的
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這次倒是還講的很得體 即使Deron對他冷淡
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※ 編輯: monmo 來自: 115.43.51.67 (02/13 14:49)
推 CW4:其實你就這樣想就好了:摩艾最好是平常會跟阿爵的外電> < 02/13 14:50
→ CW4:在他瑣碎的印象裡 搞不好教皇就視Boozer是個判將恨得牙癢癢的 02/13 14:54
→ CW4:要找機會教訓 所以才會有這種輸球導致不爽的分析 02/13 14:55
推 CW4:這兩天看外電 有點諷刺的是反而是這種時候 能感覺到北美籃球圈 02/13 15:01
→ monmo:你講的摩艾好像只是個酸民..........XD 02/13 15:03
→ CW4:還是蠻多人重視小胖可能有的成就 跟CP3暑假放話一樣會有些聲 02/13 15:03
→ monmo:不過話說現在摩艾不是已經入么午工作團隊了? 02/13 15:06
推 CW4:音是優先考量保護他們的未來 比較客觀跟有耐心在評斷 02/13 15:07
→ CW4:主要是負責公關活動的 他的個性讓他進入籃球事務破壞休息室氣 02/13 15:08
→ CW4:氛的風險應該還不小 之前想爭取教練就公開把球員缺點點一遍.. 02/13 15:09
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作者: monmo (Gentleman monmo) 站內: UTAH-JAZZ
標題: Re: [爆料] 本日額度
時間: Sun Feb 13 22:07:11 2011
1.艾希頓庫奇
KK說他夏天還是會回猶他州 會找小胖打高爾夫
躲避球會繼續 現在屈臣氏住的地方是跟他租的
他說教皇是誠實且公平的 不會玩心理遊戲
會告訴我們要做甚麼 然後努力去做
2.關於輸球
幾乎大家的說法都一樣 認為輸給自己
提到上半場情緒亢奮所以打的不錯 球有流動 打inside-out 幫忙防守
但這些下半場都洩氣了 因為情緒沒那麼激情了所以沒打好
米爺說太陽不是防守強隊 我們輸給了自己
C.J說下半場錯失太多OPEN SHOT 尤其是他
Deron說下半場失去激情 但這不是理由 就是上半場我們投的進的變成投不進
而太陽一直都能投進
黑娃說自己打的不錯 上場很興奮 但輸球數據就沒什麼意義了
3.補人?
由於現在只剩9個人 還有2個菜比八
Corbin說必要時也許會簽14th人10天約
不過他也說不過他也說 如果傷勢復原快速
就不必簽了(繼續簡樸打球)
4.猶他歷史對抗
Sloan v.s Deron或許是猶他史上最強頂峰之戰
但有三大戰鬥或許可以相提並論的有名
第一戰 Layden還在當教練時 當年老馬是菜比八
罰不進 Layden吼老馬 老馬吼回去 最衰的是Dantley那場得高分過去跟Layden緩一緩
結果Layden轉而對Dantley怒吼... 然後6個月後他就成為GG的前輩漂流離隊了
不過花了20年 他們已經沒事了
第二戰 94年打金塊時 老米勒抓住金塊的球迷Babich
因為他聲稱被金塊球迷推倒 結果爵士那場分心在ot輸球
後來老米勒有出來道歉
第三戰 Checketts在1983年被NBA任命為爵士執行副總裁
但老闆是老米勒 事情都是他在管 於是1989年他辭職
後來去尼克...等包括NFL都是成功的職業球團主管
他跟老米勒在之後的20年 都有成功的生涯
5.胖子說現在狀況很糟 我們只能繼續努力向前並試著贏些比賽
他說不喜歡在聚光燈下 但現在各種乳摸跟新聞關於他逼宮
讓他不得不在這之下 他不喜歡
他說因為他不會說謊 所以他有點累
Corbin說他相信小胖是個鬥士 往往一場打爛後下場會反彈
他並說小胖有太多額外的責任因為人們認為他是教皇離開的原因
小胖會為此做出回應 並相信他有能力度過這些
小胖則說他跟Corbin關係很好 Corbin也說兩者現在有開放熱線關係
這是小胖以前在教皇手下沒感到有的
屈臣氏過去10年見過許多教練更換 但這次不太一樣 因為這人是教皇
但他說換大家熟悉的Corbin有助定軍心
小胖也承認 他很失望怎麼今年會走歪成這樣
他從未想過現在的爵士會在現在這處境
上個球季他認為爵士有機會變得更好並且進步 但現在卻持續走低
小胖把大部份的責難扛起來 我說他總是把呀力放在他身上去打球
每一晚 他認為球隊也這樣期望他
不過他沒有每次都堅持到底 所以他必須要繼續這樣做
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※ 編輯: monmo 來自: 115.43.51.67 (02/13 22:12)
推 CW4:黑娃就超天的 02/13 22:21
※ 編輯: monmo 來自: 115.43.51.67 (02/13 22:33)
推 cyp001:連宿舍都沒有的球隊 還要自己租房子 比兄弟還不如 02/13 22:55
噓 sam369:小胖好費 現在的濫陣容還不是你跟小老板造成的 02/13 23:00
噓 CarlosBoozer:連嘶吼都不會，談什麼激情? 02/14 00:13
噓 semicoma:Torry Ellis:"我不會說謊" 02/14 01:34
噓 kaikai1112:太陽怎麼贏的.....不就靠防守 把爵士不進的球都抓下來 02/14 07:35
→ kaikai1112:爵士怎麼輸的 不就是只會打順手球 一旦對手加強盯防( 02/14 07:36
→ kaikai1112:就只能在外圍投射 淪為單打 (問題爵士沒有單打好手) 02/14 07:37
→ kaikai1112:連禁區攻擊都只剩下 AL 被逼到極限的底線反勾 小娘拋.. 02/14 07:39
→ kaikai1112:更重要的是 沒了教皇壓陣 一旦打不順 就不知道怎麼扳回 02/14 07:40
→ kaikai1112:所以史上最難看的 "下半場崩潰秀" 就出現了......... 02/14 07:41
噓 ChrisPaul03:靠情緒來打球 不錯啊 02/14 07:41
→ ChrisPaul03:爵士單打好手就是控衛 02/14 07:42
→ kaikai1112:好的教練 會幫你掌控全局 調整步調 砥礪意志... 02/14 07:42
→ kaikai1112:胖子這三點 沒一點作得好的 還以為自己飛天了 sigh 02/14 07:43