[情報] Legendary Staff

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Legendary Staff - Smoldering Essence Droprate Stealth Nerf Confirmed

One of the many stealth nerf deployed yesterday on live realms was a nerf of
the questline to obtain Dragonwrath, Tarecgosa's Rest, but not in a good way.

The Smoldering Essences required for the Heart of the Flame quest has been
considerably lowered, you will now get about 50% less essences than before
the nerf.

    For example, you will now get 9 or 10 essences from bosses in 25-Man
Heroic mode instead of 17-19.
    Players in 10-Man Heroic mode will only get 3 or 4 instead of an average
of 7.


This change is surprising and might not be a good news for players, if
Blizzard suddenly wants some parts of the game to last longer before the next
patch.

Just like any of yesterday's nerf to the firelands raid bosses, we don't have
any comment or information from Blizzard at this point and the only comment
is from a Blizzard QA poster who confirmed that this is indeed an intentional
change.


25H變成9 or 10不再是17 or 19
10H變成3 or  4不再是 7


This was an intentional change, not a bug.

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→ clamsama:10h的話也才6隻王可以吸，3.5*6 = 21/week
→ clamsama:250/21 = 12週 = 3個月 才能吸滿
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→ clamsama:1000煤渣的部份，約20*7=140 1000/140 = 8週 = 2個月
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→ clamsama:25餘燼的部份 25/7 = 4週 = 1個月
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作者: TachibanaMik (橘美琴) 看板: WOW
標題: Re: [情報] Legendary Staff 
時間: Thu Sep  8 22:59:35 2011


   剛才吸了25普的艾里斯拉卓

 是 8 個

 10人普通就請其他人補充情報了...

 所以25普沒被影響到

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推 gluo:10H 3~4個 悲劇
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作者: patoo (完了完了 要變砲灰了 ) 看板: WOW
標題: Re: [情報] Legendary Staff 
時間: Fri Sep  9 09:23:52 2011

BZ又做些微調整了，解釋為什麼要這樣調

That's another issue, though it has less to do with drop rates and more to do
with how the quest can reasonably be completed. We came up with a
"parallelization" concept where a player could be on phase 3 of making
Dragonwrath, while another raider in the same group could be on phase 2. We
thought that would feel better for the players involved, and it did, but more
because they were getting their staves faster than for any other reason. The
real problem with this idea is that it made it very difficult to balance the
time investment it takes to create a staff. The first staff might take x
amount of time to create, but then subsequent staves could potentially come
out the door a lot faster.

主要說有人在解p3時，團隊同時有人在解p2，這樣量產速度太快。

Legendaries aren't very legendary if 20% of the raiding population is
carrying them -- never mind the ripple effects that their presence can have
on game balance in PvE and PvP. Ultimately, 'parallelization' made a too
powerful item, too easy to get, too quickly. In short, it was a mistake that
we regret, and one we won't be repeating in the future. It also left us with
a situation that we needed to address, though, which is why we nerfed the
quest item drop rates to begin with.

太多人帶就不潮啦，所以 nerf

All of that is merely by way of explaining how we arrived at this point. The
heart of the issue for many of you has been 10-player raid drop rates and I’
d like to take a moment to thank those of you who provided clear,
constructive feedback in these threads and elsewhere. It’s been really
valuable during our deliberations and helped us arrive at a decision that we
think will address our concerns and yours.

We’ve decided to revert the drop rate change for 10-player heroic Firelands
completely. We’ll also be slightly buffing the drop rates in 10-player
normal. In the end, we should get the following results:

25-player heroic has 44% lower drop rates in phase 3 relative to 4.2 launch.
25-player normal remains unchanged from 4.2 launch.
10-player heroic remains unchanged from 4.2 launch.
10-player normal has 33% higher drop rates in phase 3 relative to 4.2 launch.

We plan to hotfix the new rates into place as soon as possible, and we should
see them in-place pre-raid this evening barring unforeseen complications.


結論：
掉落率
25H nerf
10N buff
其他不變

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