精華區beta WOW 關於我們 聯絡資訊
※ 引述《idler13 (敗家一族)》之銘言: : 這個bug的來源是獸群守護者這個天賦, 讓變熊時獲得12%減傷, 還有6%AP : 在wow更新到4.01時, 由於天賦樹的重新社計使這項天賦正式消失 : 但如果在更新前擁的德魯伊有點出獸群守護者, 他仍然會保有效果在4.03 : 因此改版前是熊天賦的dru, 會比其他dru多出隱藏的12%減傷, 還有6%ap : 這個bug會在4.06一起修掉, 同時把厚皮buff從38->78% : 讓所有的熊坦統一增加大約12%的物理減傷 : 所以對原本有bug的熊來講, 就是少了12%魔法減傷, 物理沒變 : 但是原本是軟糖的QQ熊, 就多了12%左右的物理減傷 : 要檢查自己的熊有沒有bug的方法是看角色AP : 全部裝備脫光, 計算從人形變熊增加的AP數值 : 照理應該會是 (基本敏捷-10)*2*1.25 : 超過這個數字就是有隱藏的6%加成 這篇是BZ官方在今天中午左右回應的藍帖 After the designers looked into this issue more, there appears to be a pretty complex series of bugs that may have led to where we are now. I'll do my best to explain. 由於你們哭很大, 所以我們出來解釋一下吧, 雖然這故事有點複雜 Early on in Cataclysm, it was concluded that druid tanks took too much damage and we deployed a hotfix to buff their armor through Thick Hide. Originally, we had thought that 4.0.6 was just updating the Thick Hide tooltip as well as the armor display on the character sheet for the earlier hotfix, but we think now that the armor buff itself was actually correctly applied with 4.0.6, and the previous hotfix had never taken hold properly. 在cata剛開的時候, 我們觀察到的數字發現熊坦太軟了 所以我們直接線上修正了厚皮從38->78%, 然後預計在4.06在更改天賦文字說明 但那次的hotfix實際上問題很大 The reason we missed this is because there is no easy way to know what your armor actually is when you can’t trust the tooltip – you have to have things beat on you and see how much damage you take. This test was tainted by a second bug however, where some druid characters were invisibly retaining the 12% damage reduction benefit of the obsolete Protector of the Pack talent. Even though we removed that talent, its effects were still benefitting some characters, and we didn't know who or how many. Again, there is no easy way to know if your druid was affected without a lot of testing. We knew about the Protector of the Pack bug but were hesitant to try and mess with it too much via hotfix since bear survivability was where we wanted it to be for those characters and we didn’t want to risk making anything worse. In any event, those characters appeared to be taking the correct amount of damage, so we thought the Thick Hide hotfix was successful. In reality, we think we were seeing the Protector of the Pack damage reduction and not the Thick Hide armor buff. 之前的hotfix會出問題的原因, 在於減傷只能用實測來作調整 當我們在作測試時, 有部份的德魯伊角色還保留了隱形減傷天賦 他們比其他角色多了獸群守護者的12%減傷, 最後測試數據很混亂 我們不想過度hotfix而讓事情混亂, 所以到最後取消了厚皮78%的設定 我們那時認為厚皮的調整沒問題, 硬度跟其他坦差不多 實際上是因為大部份測試角色都有潛藏12%減傷的關係 We believe the 4.0.6 patch finally removed the Protector of the Pack effects while finally getting the Thick Hide buff applied. Characters who had the Protector of the Pack benefit won’t see their survivability change much (they lost damage reduction while gaining armor), while characters who lacked that talent will see their survivability improve (they gained a lot of armor). The good news is that current bear survivability in 4.0.6 appears to be where we want it to be for everyone. 相信在4.06的更新以後, 所有德魯伊都不會在有隱藏的12%減傷 所以也就正式的把厚皮調整為78%, 之前就已經角色bug的德魯伊 他們的生存力不會太大的改變, 減傷少了12%但裝甲多了很多 而之前沒問題的軟糖QQ熊應該會感覺到自己變硬許多, 裝甲多了約1萬 經過4.06的調整, 軟糖熊的硬度已達到我們一開始的設計目標 We’re still not 100% sure that the above explanation is what happened, but it seems consistent with our observations. Again, as of 4.0.6, bear armor should now be correct. 我們仍然無法完全肯定件事情的來龍去脈, 以上是我們的部分觀察結果 總之4.06的軟糖熊裝甲調整, 應該不會有問題了 -- 白當了2個月QQ軟糖熊, 等於比其他坦克整整少了1萬裝甲在坦怪 .... -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 59.125.1.88 ※ 編輯: idler13 來自: 59.125.1.88 (02/10 18:30)
pocky0511:BOSS:是熊熊軟糖欸 我要吃我要吃 02/10 18:30
retawaet: BOSS:不要過來 再過來我要叫了! (改版後) 02/10 18:32
OK8066889:BOSS:一刀啟程 02/10 18:33
a12073311:BOSS:沒有軟糖吃了Q_Q 改吃糖衣巧克力 (改版後) 02/10 18:40
jesusCAT: BOSS:野味勒 還不送上來! 02/10 18:40
eric97979:BOSS:今晚吃熊掌 02/10 18:45
s12345: Druid:http://ppt.cc/Zt9o 02/10 18:55
arkdragoon:BOS:熊膽增加法力上限 熊掌增加AP值 熊鞭增加耐力上限 02/10 18:56
darkbrigher:從軟糖變成太妃糖這樣? 02/10 19:03
foreverlord:這硬度預估應該有比其他坦高一點點 02/10 19:07
nin64:之前沒bug的熊真的很悲情... 02/10 19:08
foreverlord:雖然減傷只多了約8% 但從王的傷害看 8%是很大的量 02/10 19:08
jamteam:(茶 我又想起H畢業的熊熊被單王打爆的故事.... 02/10 19:21