Re: [討論]截肢賊 白字命中 和 加速

[kuonet (鍋貼)]

EJ 昨天更新的 Rogue Pocket Guide

Pocket Guide to WOTLK (Updated for 3.3)

Abstract

A quick summary of the rogue theorycrafting work to date for Wrath of the
Lich King. This guide is a rough compilation of various posts made on the forums concerning
rogue PVE dps. Contributions made by Vulajin, Aldriana, Tinwhisker, Enova, drumbum, Shaker,
spOOn, chalon, Snowcrasher, Mavanas, and others from the rogue community.

If in doubt of any of the information posted here, please use the spreadsheet.
Read Aldriana's 3.3 Rogue FAQ for a quick primer.

簡單版本，要詳細的去抓試算表算

Spreadsheets

Most the information posted in this guide is derived from the following
spreadsheets. Please use these spreadsheets for a more accurate approach.

Aldriana's Combat and Mutilate Spreadsheets

Aldriana的戰鬥/截肢賊試算表
http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t39136-combat_mutilate_spreadsheets_updated_3_1_a/

Mavanas' Rogue DPS Simulation Spreadsheet

Mavanas的戰鬥/截肢賊試算表
http://elitistjerks.com/f78/t51449-rogue_dps_simulation_spreadsheet/

Talent Specs

Spec            Talents
Combat          20/51/0
Mutilate        51/18/2

天賦
戰鬥 20/51/0
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#fhg00tLZMgVo0cxqru0xRt:Nhk
截肢 51/18/2
http://www.wowhead.com/?talent#f0ec0egoVboIuVo0xV0xcZb:TIp

Rotation, Weapon Speeds, and Poisons

循環, 武器速度, 毒藥

The information posted below is just a quick and general outline of common
strategies. Results may differ for various armor and weapon combinations. Please use the
spreadsheet for a more accurate approach.

Originally posted by Tinwhisker.

PvE Mutilate, fast and flawed advice
Generally, slow mainhand, fast offhand.
Use the highest DPS daggers possible, speed is of less importance.
Mainhand Instant Poison, Offhand Deadly Poison.

PVE截肢賊，慢主手，快副手
以DPS優先，速度第二考量
主手速效，副手致命

Priority:
* Ensure that there is a bleed (ie. Rupture, Deep Wounds, Rend) on the target.
* Start up Hunger for Blood.
* Start up Slice and Dice however you please, really.
* Use vanish whenever possible for Overkill buff.

1. Keep HFB up.
2. 4+ combo point Envenom.

優先順序
* 先看目標有沒有流血效果(撕裂, 割裂, 重傷, 撕碎, 獵人寵物dot)
* 放鮮血渴求
* 放切割
* 善用消失和冷血增加傷害

1. 維持鮮血渴求
2. 四星以上毒化

PvE Combat, fast and flawed advice
Mainhand a sword, fist or mace weapon of generally slow speed.
Offhand a sword, dagger or fist weapon of generally fast speed.
Mainhand Instant Poison, Offhand Deadly Poison.

PVE戰鬥賊，慢主手，快副手，主手不要是匕首
主手速效毒藥，副手致命毒藥

Priority:
* Start up Slice and Dice however you please, really.
* Use cooldowns whenever possible. Killing spree + blade flurry, blade flurry
+ adrenaline rush can be used. Adrenaline rush + killing spree is not
recommended due to energy capping.

1. Keep SnD up, no matter what the number of combo points are.
2. 5 point Eviscerate.

* 起手切割
* 善用CD技能，但不要能量刺激 + 狂舞殘殺一起開，浪費能量

1. 維持切割，不用管幾星
2. 五星剔骨當終結技

Read Aldriana's post on combat cycles here.


Combat Ratings

Combat Rating Table

Rating  Conversion to 1%
Expertise       32.78998947
Hit     32.78998947
Spell Hit       26.23199272
Critical Strike 45.90598679
Haste   32.78998947
Armor Penetration       13.99572719
Agi to Crit     83.33333333

1%能力需要的技能等級

熟練     32.78998947
命中     32.78998947
法術命中 26.23199272
致命     45.90598679
加速     32.78998947
破甲     13.99572719
敏->致命 83.33333333

Expertise Rating

For 6.5% boss dodge chance (26/26 expertise):

26 expertise (214 expertise rating) to cap.
16 expertise (132 expertise rating) to cap for rogues with 2/2 Weapon
Expertise.
13 expertise (107 expertise rating) to cap for combat human rogues wielding a
sword/mace.
11 expertise (91 expertise rating) to cap for combat dwarf rogues wielding a
mace.
11 expertise (91 expertise rating) to cap for combat orc rogues wielding a
fist/axe.

熟練等級
需要26/26 boss才不會閃躲
26熟練 = (214熟練等級)
天賦10熟練 = 裝備需要132熟練等級

下面那三個分別是人類, 矮人, 獸人賊有武器專精之後需要的熟練等級

The above numbers are the expertise numbers needed from gear to cap.
The character tooltip should read 26 expertise.

Hit Rating

Originally posted by drumbum.

The following values assume that you have 5/5 Precision and that you are
attacking a level 83 mob (i.e., boss level).

Extra buffs or debuffs                      Specials   Poisons  White
None    99      315     722
Imp FF or Misery        99      237     722
Imp FF or Misery & Heroic Presence (draenei)    66      210     689

命中等級

精準點5/5所需要的命中等級

Buff           黃字    毒藥    白字

沒有           99      315     722
有3%命中       99      237     722
有3%+德萊尼    66      210     689

The following values assume that you have 2/5 Precision and that you are
attacking a level 83 mob (i.e., boss level).

Extra buffs or debuffs  Specials        Poisons         White
None    197     393     820
Imp FF or Misery        197     315     820
Imp FF or Misery & Heroic Presence (draenei)    164     289     787

For PVP, assuming no Precision:

Specials        Poisons         White
164     105     787

上面是精準點2/5和 pvp需要的命中

PVP沒點精準需要的是

黃字   毒藥   白字
164    105    787

Armor Penetration Rating

Armor penetration cap is not affected by target debuffs (ie. sunder/faerie
fire)
so the caps are as follows:

100% armor penetration - 1400 armor pen rating
85% armor penetration (Mace spec) - 1190 armor pen rating

Mjolnir Runestone soft caps (grants 665 arp rating):

100% armor penetration - 735 armor pen rating
85% armor penetration (Mace spec) - 525 armor pen rating

破甲等級

100%破甲 = 1400破甲等級
85%破甲(+鎚專15%) = 1190破頂級

有雷神之鎚符石發動

無鎚專 = 需要735破甲等級達到100%破甲
有鎚專 = 需要525破甲等級

Critical Strike Cap

Crit Cap = 100% - 24% glancing blows - X% dodge chance - X% miss chance

where X% dodge chance is determined by expertise rating and X% miss chance is
determined by hit rating.

Note: 4.8% of critical strikes are converted to normal hits after the above
cap.


致命上限 = 100% - 24%(擦過) - X%閃躲機率 - Y% miss機率

X取決於熟練
Y取決於命中

下面就是AEP的部份了，版上應該有，剩下的部份改天再翻

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我回台灣了，這兩天隨機組隊遇到的Kuonet都是我本人

分身戰士宇都宮比瑪也是

隨機組隊我很雷和很威的都有遇到

有遇到阿薩斯258四人組, 也有遇到野D DPS 3xx + 術士 DPS 9xx的紫羅蘭

不過我裝備還夠用，DPS和閃躲/偷天等技能都還算罩得住隊友，算是賊的優勢

坦就更不用說了，夠硬的話基本上隊友再弱都可以慢慢磨完

大致上都順順打完，比較不爽的是有幾次有遇到嘴巴比技術厲害的

大陸人 & 台灣人都有(大陸人偏多...)

把自己講很會打然後開始問候人爸媽到底是什麼狀況...

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憤怒使者 <神樣> Rogue Kuonet  (帳號交給同學了)
Armory: http://tinyurl.com/2z2947 個版(剛開，沒文章): [email protected]

不要懷疑，1/1之前線上遇到的Kuonet就是我。

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