Re: [閒聊] 3.12 buff 戰士?

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這應該是你要的：

The warr ArP thread is filled with people napkin-mathing ArP wrong, so I
wanted to chime in, as I've been watching this pretty close at EJ. Maybe
someone with the rating to can cross-post this. I think ArP w/ Grim Toll
is going to become our PvP bread and butter.
You cannot get 100% ignore from sunder + shatt + battle + GT proc. You
get more like 80%. It just doesn't add like that.


1. Self + Buff ArP (incl mace/stance) is additive.
Debuff ArP is multiplicative (sunder/shatt = -36%).
The combination of the two is "complicated".
I've put that formula at the bottom so you don't have to deal with detail
math to read the post.

2. The values where a GT proc brings you to 100% armor ignore is:
No sunder
Zerk = 620 ArP
Battle = 497 ArP
Battle + Mace = 312 ArP
These values are NOT relative to armor of target

With either sunder or shattering throw vs 24k armor (paladin) is:
Zerk = 511 ArP
Battle = 388 ArP
Battle + Mace = 203 ArP
the sundered/shatter values go up vs >24k armor, down at <24k.
Takes about ~40 ArP less to cap out vs 5-10k armor

I'm going to shoot for 388 or 497 ArP and use GT. Sunder the target,
watch for a GT proc and then run a reck combo vs 0 armor. Yes, you
have to wear pve gear to do this. I expect it'll be worth it to hit
paladins/DKs like clothies.

497 will be hard to reach in pvp gear until ulduar gear, but once you
have an ulduar weapon and a bit of gear, you can probably hit 497 and
no longer spend GCD's sundering. Also: bladestorm in 5's at 100% armor
ignore (without sunders!) makes me drool.

It's worth noting that Mace = 185 ArP rating, Axe = 230 Crit rating.
Axe is much, much better than mace except when the mace is capping your
ArP. I don't advise going mace unless you can't get the ArP elsewhere.
It's almost as bad as using a lower tier weap.

MATH:
The 3.1 ArP formula is:
Final ArP % = A/(A+B*((1-x)-y*(1-(B/(A+B))*x)))

A = 15232.5, B = target armor#, x = selfbuff ArP, y = debuff ArP

y is multiplicative. Sunder = 20%, ShattThrow = 20%, Sunder + Shatthrow = 36%,
sunder + FF = 24%. Sunder + ff + shatt = 39.2%

x is additive. Battle stance = 123 ArP, Mace spec = 185 ArP. It all adds
together w/ gear ArP then gets divided by 12.3164 to get you a % for x.
Source is math at
http://elitistjerks.com/f31/t29453-combat_ratings_level_80_a/p16/

All of this is assuming the ArP bug gets fixed and that no new major arp
changes go in before the patch. I think those are both fair assumptions.
If the bug is not fixed, you multiply x by 81% (and ArP sux again).

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※ 編輯: Anzar           來自: 118.169.136.230      (05/21 11:10)
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推 maikxz:3分...
推 Sechslee:有心的話 看久就懂了 (無誤)
→ Anzar:資料人家都幫你查好了還要翻譯啊...
→ Dancekwang:簡單說競技撐497破甲+喪鐘發動時的轉轉讓人開心
→ Dancekwang:但是目前必須混uld武器跟裝備才有辦法達到497
推 skywalker655:ARP是....
→ argr:破甲
推 held:題外話:這簽名檔印象中好久以前的記憶聽過??
推 dAn0714:dp在人家的文貼上巴哈標籤噓他,要了資料又要翻譯,看了真
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→ Xavy:我找這公式找好久了阿..
推 Sechslee:蛤 這公式沒變啊
→ loyang:反正這資料也可以幫到別人
→ Xavy:沒變可是我版上問了兩次都沒人回阿  冏，只好當作直接加來算
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