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http://forums.worldofwarcraft.com/thread.html?topicId=8765577343&sid=2000 今天討論區藍帖 因為沒什麼重要的就隨便翻一下 括號部分則是我加註的 There are some significant Fire changes coming in an upcoming build, I'll see if I can get the web team to update the calculator. 最近就會有火系的改動,請大家等待 (話說他前幾天就這麼說...所以快了?這次改動應該也不小) Fire is intended to do compelling single target damage, as it's traditionally been. When first designing the classes, we always intended the Mage to be the king of AOE and for AOE to be an important part in the game. Living Bomb, and other talents in the tree are intended to bring the Mage back in line with our original vision. Part of what pegged the Mage down a notch was Seed of Corruption, which ended up being better than we anticipated. 火系從以前到現在就是較專精在製造單體目標的傷害,然後他再次重申Mage 一定會是AoE King That said, again, we do want Fire to be a strong single target DPS spec along with Frost and Arcane. Frost is not intended to be the Mages "PvP spec" and Fire isn't intended to be the "PvE spec," they only turned out that way because of unintended factors. We're trying to make Frost more viable in raiding by allowing you to effectively freeze the target without having to nova it, allowing you to throw in some "shatter combos" in your rotation. Arcane, Frost, and Fire (and a mix thereof) should all more or less be viable in as many aspects of the game as possible. Where they should be different is in playstyle and gameplay differences (stacking Scorch vs. freezing and shatter etc.). 他希望Mage不是就只是單純PVE火系,PVP冰系。冰系也應該要能在Raid中出現,所以 對冰系做了更多對Raid方面的更動,比如可視無法冰腳的目標為冰凍之類,讓你在輸 出循環中可利用碎冰天賦,換言之,三系天賦都應該要能在Raid有一席之地。 (可惜從Winter's Grasp到目前Fingers of Frost,從對目標疊debuff令團隊受益數 秒,到剩下單體buff且只有下一次法術受益,整個被nerf過大。我不否認原先 Winter's Grasp過於強大,但是被nerf成如此實在有點可惜。) AOE will be more prevalent in encounters in the game, yes. However, Fire mages are assuming they're being converted into a pure AOE spec, which is not the case. We want the strong AOE to just be a feature of the Fire Mage. The Fire Mage doesn't need a new single target DPS nuke or ability as a 51-point talent in order to continue to be a good single target DPS class. 現在的改動不是讓火系成為AoE系,而是讓他更適合去AoE; 而火法的51點不會是對單體的強力傷害天賦,因為他不需要。 後面有人回文QQ說我不要他X的啥AE王,我只要有對Boss的強力DPS, 當初職業介紹明明怎樣寫blabla(就是一個被騙進來的可憐人) 結果Koraa回說: There's no reason why you can't be both, which is my point.(煙) 囧rz -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.62.243.15
faths:I forget!! 08/07 18:16
picklecak:他願意改強冰係我就要偷笑了 冰法控 08/07 18:23
youh2031:只要術士存在一天,法師就一天抬不起頭。 08/07 18:28
picklecak:還好啦 SWP隻前 法師還有機會給他們打臉 (誤 08/07 18:30
bigchoir:火法51點天賦:群體燒烤術 從此之後火法成為烹飪界AoE王者 08/07 18:34
Langelize:Mage:我是連烹飪也要烹調在頂點的人 08/07 18:37
venom:職業介紹看看就好 某個大族群可是當了4年受害者了 08/07 18:42
iGao:火焰51點-火焰藝術-:有機率在開餐桌時釋放龍息 08/07 19:10
retawaet:最後那句是說 法師可以又是AE王又有強力DPS? 08/07 19:11
dizcreet:我以前就是為了當DPS主攻手才玩法師 TBC讓我非常失望... 08/07 19:14
dizcreet:希望這次會改回原本該有的本色... 08/07 19:14
Xenomorph:dps主攻手永遠賊都有一席之地,因為沒其他的功能了 XD 08/07 19:38
patrol:賊的一席之地,應該還是在斷法... 08/07 19:50
patrol:不過好像資料片多出了buff能力... 08/07 19:51
alan90349:不好意思問一下Winter's Grasp和 Fingers of Frost 08/07 20:07
alan90349:他原本的功能是什麼 08/07 20:07
kuo2001:WG應該是對怪產生的DEBUFF 而FF變成是自己的BUFF 而且只有 08/07 20:11
kuo2001:10秒內的一次可發動 08/07 20:12
kuo2001:其實我認為火法aoe已經很強了,龍息效果變長,衝擊波有 08/07 20:13
kuo2001:擊退,加上烈焰迅捷,龍息、衝擊波有45%烈焰風暴瞬發... 08/07 20:15
kuo2001:只是安全性還是比冰法低... 08/07 20:16
retawaet:樓上 衝擊波沒擊退了.. 08/07 20:18
jack0204:叫我烘焙王 08/07 20:18
GaARo:咦 衝擊波有擊退吧 08/07 20:20
retawaet:擊退不是已經跟炎暴又改回六秒那次 一起改回沒擊退了? 08/07 20:23
GaARo:那不叫改回六秒 唱法時間還是有縮短 08/07 20:24
Langelize:以藍帖為準 那次的情報只是因為模擬器沒完全更新 08/07 20:25
Langelize:現在模擬器更新完 是有擊退的 08/07 20:25
GaARo:http://0rz.tw/624Ao see 官方天賦模擬器 08/07 20:27
GaARo:"knocking them back" 08/07 20:27
kuo2001:天賦點了炎暴1.5秒但多了CD5秒,不點就沒有CD 08/07 20:29
retawaet:喔...抱歉 我情報LAG了 08/07 20:31
retawaet:不過那個炎暴天賦 個人覺得很不實用 不管pvp pve.. 08/07 20:32
bigchoir:龍息5秒很不穩的,光是龍息爆擊怪物就會被DOT弄醒了。 08/07 20:34
littleeyes:我怎麼記得某次改版把龍息爆擊燃燒打醒迷惑改調了? 08/07 20:36
kuo2001:龍息不穩 但據說龍息跟冰錐共CD 也是讓我不想玩火法的原因 08/07 20:41
kuo2001:希望CD能分開算吧XDrz 08/07 20:42
Xenomorph:龍息跟冰錐一直都是共CD,wotlk目前好像也沒聽說會改? 08/07 21:00
GaARo:感覺cd分開超威的耶XD 08/07 21:01
hider7788:奧系天賦取消 改成廚藝天賦.. 08/07 21:10
kuo2001:若以現在的beta wlk天賦來看冰錐可以減速到70%呢 冰法真的 08/07 21:15
GaARo:廚藝天賦 做出了的水包吃了會有充分進食效果是吧 08/07 21:16
kuo2001:太威了 再加上那個變態冰盾 冰法超猛的... 08/07 21:16
retawaet:減速還好吧 原本就追得上的還是追得上 像盜.戰... 08/07 22:55
myran:發現新版元素大師從冰火兩種改成全部法術都會回魔了... 08/07 23:02
myran:用祕法飛彈終於不會那麼耗魔了... 08/07 23:02
myran:要5顆都不暴機率還蠻低的~只不過在火系18點感覺有點麻煩... 08/07 23:04
pulesiya:火51--特級廚師: 當你召喚餐點儀式時,會出現龍息術動畫! 08/07 23:39
ieoAAAA:目前火系很明顯的把單體傷害跟ae天賦分開 08/07 23:44
ieoAAAA:要兩個都強....會吃掉超多天賦 XD 08/07 23:47
sinho:火法天賦明顯很肥大...11點炎暴很多餘 . 08/08 00:48
retawaet:樓上錯了 沒有炎暴怎點的出超酷擊退衝擊呢 08/08 01:12
Xenomorph:說火系天賦肥大,不妨去看看其他職業,根本就是還好而已 08/08 09:59