→ angelfish520:不是我愛說 你廣告打很兇 那麼渴望別人看你文章 04/15 17:37
→ angelfish520:叫出版社幫你出書比較快 04/15 17:38
→ cafelight:OK 以後就當潛水客 04/15 18:02
推 richter:cafelight請留步 勿讓劣幣驅逐良幣 04/15 18:05
→ cafelight:謝謝Richter大。一樓剛剛讓我真的很難過,原本是想本版 04/15 18:06
→ cafelight:比較少心得的交流,才想發表分享一些實際的心得感受 04/15 18:07
→ angelfish520:不是說發表感言不好 而是沒必要每次寫文章都附你部 04/15 18:09
→ cafelight:發表東西當然想要引起共鳴,但我並不覺得自己寫的多好, 04/15 18:09
→ angelfish520:落格連結 你敢說你完全沒有打廣告的意圖嗎? 04/15 18:10
→ cafelight:而是想跟大家分享心得,交流看法 04/15 18:10
→ angelfish520:久久一次沒人會說什 但你有點頻繁 04/15 18:11
→ cafelight:還有,出版社已經幫我出書了,謝謝天使520大的指教。 04/15 18:11
推 richter:我不覺得cafelight兄這樣有什麼"廣告"的意味 04/15 18:11
→ richter:像比較長篇的文章 有些人喜歡讀網頁看的比較舒服 04/15 18:12
→ angelfish520:出不出書不是重點 你寫的好壞也是另一回事 你廣告 04/15 18:12
→ richter:就算附連結 有什麼實質的商業好處嗎 04/15 18:13
→ angelfish520:可以少打一些 04/15 18:13
→ cafelight:非常歡迎拒點連結!真的!就像板上的文章,你都有權利選擇 04/15 18:12
→ richter:板上好文已經夠少 如果連貢獻好文章都要被這樣對待 04/15 18:13
→ cafelight:看或不看。anyway,還是謝謝兩位的建言。 04/15 18:13
→ richter:真不知道以後誰還想PO文 難怪大家都寧可躲到自己的Blog 04/15 18:14
→ cafelight:對啊,沒有任何廣告好處,沒有廠商會找我 04/15 18:15
→ cafelight:謝謝richter的解釋,看過我文章就知道,我完全不會排版 04/15 18:17
→ cafelight:附上連結,也是提供對某些人來說,是比較整齊的格式 04/15 18:17
→ angelfish520:很多事情不需要講很明吧 打廣告不一定是為了商業用 04/15 18:22
→ angelfish520:途 不過還有另一用途 就是打知名度 04/15 18:24
推 FsJerry:我覺得沒啥不好阿....一樓可能太緊張了 04/15 18:44
→ angelfish520:我個人感覺而已 大家也是看看就好 倒是這篇的回應 04/15 18:47
→ angelfish520:文 eaquson那篇 就不會讓人覺得在打廣告 純分享 04/15 18:48
推 chupan:贊成心得分享!不過本文開頭引的是詩吧?怎麼能譯成單行? 04/15 19:18
推 EX:寫得很入神,推~ 04/15 19:28
推 Huangs:打知名度又怎樣? @@ 為什麼不能附連結打知名度? 04/15 19:31
→ ivanos:神話還不是會被推翻與創造 No big deal 04/15 19:44
推 chupan:我認為似乎還能再進行更深層次的探究,而不應僅僅只是哀悼 04/15 19:48
→ chupan:期待原po再有更佳的心得與大家分享,提醒我們另有一種思維 04/15 19:50
→ chupan:回顧原po之前的文章,發現原po很喜歡引用喔XD 04/15 19:54
→ DesmondTutu:本來就是在打廣告啊 XD 這也沒什麼不好 04/15 20:10
→ DesmondTutu:不在這裡講 我在無名也找不到 04/15 20:11
→ DesmondTutu:可以看看Walter Benjamin的文章 04/15 20:11
推 MP56:推~讓我想到最近幾期音響論壇某編輯寫的烤鴨狂想系列文章~ 04/15 20:15
→ MP56:兩者有異曲同工之趣^^ 04/15 20:17
推 Brien:只是部落格連結,心眼也太小了吧 04/15 20:36
推 Gymnopedie:是該推的時候了 希望cafelight大可以繼續寫 04/15 20:38
推 dewenhsu:"秘方" 不是早已經被 "破解" 了嗎 ? 04/15 22:11
推 FsJerry:推卡爾維諾兄 繼續寫阿.....雖然我無法完全看懂.... 04/16 00:06
推 ChaosCreator:This is an open board, readers can have their own 04/16 00:52
→ ChaosCreator:opinion on posts. At the same time, the posted 04/16 00:53
→ ChaosCreator:opinion are from the same freedom of mind. 04/16 00:54
推 Beltran:推有深度的心得分享~ 04/16 03:41
→ phantan:即便美食版,也都有附連結,純粹方便閱讀吧! A大想太多! 04/16 08:24
推 onetwo01:如果是我也會附連結,引用出處有何不妥?就算是自己的.. 04/16 09:02
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作者: eaquson (海鮮雙手捲) 看板: clmusic
標題: Re: [觀點]神話之必要
時間: Tue Apr 15 18:33:45 2008
砍光光。
看到這篇就想到以前英文作文課的作業,貼上來給大家笑笑XD
The Alchemists
In the times that recording technologies are not so successful, music played
by the paper roll piano is not bad compare with the early 78 rpm recordings.
However, the paper roll piano recordings today are only valuable for
historical reasons: Busoni plays his Chaconne and Rachmaninov plays his piano
works are some of these examples.
After the 50 year IPR protection, some companies such as Naxos start to
release their own version of the “1955 edition Goldberg variations".
The original PR owner Sony Music decided to make use of their precious
recording data. They apply the latest technology to analyze the data
and covert it to a computer-controlled Grand piano. The sound performed by
the piano was recorded again. The result is a 5.1 channel stereophonic album
rather than the original mono edition.
Sony Music declared that they have “reproduced” the sound heard in the
studio, even the sound heard by Gould at 1955!
This album is quite controversial.
Firstly, we don’t know at what extent the simulation was made.
The piano is not the original one at 1955. The studio is not exactly the
same, too.
I also wonder if the analysis of the data can simulate sounds attributed to
some factors such as the leaning back of the performer who sits on the
custom-made low chair, his “ape-like” behavior, even the humming.
The Zenph Studios themselves admitted that they have to check out the overall
results of the transcriptions with the original recording and make some
approximations. To me, it is a process of piecing together all the elements
to make it “sounds like” the original recording rather than sheer
transcription. Some has criticized that it is a violation of the legacy of
the artist.
Just like Milan Kundra once commented:
"Without a doubt, this or that sentence of A la Recherche du Temps Perdu
could be better written. But where could you find the lunatic who would want
to read an improved Proust?"
Now they’re trying to convince you that this is better than the one heard
and confirmed by Glenn Gould.
But what would Glenn Gould himself consider the album?
In addition to the commercial factors, it is interesting that who is chosen.
Glenn Gould, who stopped performing in public at 1964 and spent most of his
late years in studio, is a zealous to the studio technology. He wants to
convey his central idea about music through the recordings. A recording of
Three Part Inventions may comprises over 200 pieces recorded at different
time, but still remain consistent and united to him. It is my imagination
that he will welcome the technique with smile and held piano recitals played
by computers!
參考資料
http://www.audiophileaudition.com/article.php?ArticleID=2576
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※ 編輯: eaquson 來自: 140.113.139.220 (04/15 18:36)
推 cafelight:nice!觀點筆法兼具 04/15 22:29
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作者: cafelight (Uncanny Gaiman) 看板: clmusic
標題: Re: [觀點]神話之必要
時間: Tue Apr 15 21:46:38 2008
感謝各位網友高手的回應,
支持或反對,我都虛心接受。
不過,會引起這樣的討論,
卻不是我原先設想的到的。
以下,就不一一具名回應了,
單純把我想到的,心有所感的想法寫出來。
其一,
針對引用Keats詩的翻譯,
我的確沒有譯成中文詩的企圖或功力。
我認為,譯成簡單有力的one-liner,
更令人印象深刻,
這是採取海明威的作法。
其二,
關於Benjamin的"The Work of Art in the Age of Merchanical Reproduction"
等相關文化研究理論,
謝謝網友提醒,
不過這篇在我網誌分類原本是放在[拼貼後現代],
而非[理論年代]下,
所以,只是就我粗淺的幾點觀察,古典唱片的幾個例子,
作簡單發揮。
其三,
承上,因此[神話之必要]的寫作模式,
當初並非朝理論化的夾敘夾議,
而是更為散文化的觀察書寫,
這也回應了幾位網友對本篇深度不足的批判回應,
沒錯,這篇想講的,
真的只是幾個單一文化現象的心得觀察而已,
深度原本不足,也該不足。
我所企圖的,
反而是[我手寫我口]的偽論述,
無需引用太多術語,架空或鋪張。
其四,
如果您真的要問我對[神話已死]命題的嚴肅看法,
或許我就真的要"推銷"自己的部落格了,
不過不是要打知名度,也沒有廣告利益可拿,
只是想邀請對[後現代]議題有興趣的朋友,
一起參加討論交流。
畢竟,從我的網誌名稱[如果在冬夜,我,一個旅人]
就不難看出我對後現代主義或現象裡的
或拼貼或重組或消融或nothing at all手法,
感到相當著迷。
可以說,我部落格所有文章,
樂評及影評或純文學寫作,
都是朝這個方向來寫的。
真有興趣的話,
可以看看[五秒鐘電影]或[獨孤九劍]或[誤讀]那幾篇,
就可以發現,我對後現代的仿真擬像等DIY論述,
是深表認同的。
因此,我並非哀悼神話之死亡,
神話當然要死,佛洛依德早在[Totem and Taboo]
談到原初神話的形成,
必是一種是弒父的革命過程。
我不哀悼神話的死亡,
神話必得消融重組,再創造,
只緬懷大師風華遠去。
大概先寫到這邊了,
希望以後可以持續Post一些心得交流,
跟大家切磋琢磨。
謝謝您的收看。
感恩!
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推 chupan:推這篇!另外,你的blog名稱不就是卡爾維諾的小說名嗎? 04/16 01:29
→ cafelight:是的,卡爾維諾是後現代奇幻或魔幻寫實的大師 04/16 01:47