作者Architect (1 又 1/3)
看板the_L_word
標題Heather Peace 在本期 DIVA 的訪問
時間Tue Jan 4 02:21:23 2011
稿終於趕完了 ( 這裡指的是真的要交的那種...... ),
終於可以來 post 了.
其實私下的 Heather 頗健談風趣, 與 Lip Service 中的謹言不太一樣,
有時還會在 ( 音樂 ) 舞台上人來瘋. :P
這篇訪問也頗有趣,
貼上來分享給有興趣的朋友.
"NORTHERN STAR"
Jane Czyzselska quizzes Yorkshire-born Heather Peace about sex with straight
female co-stars, the prejudice she's faced as a lesbian actress and how
Princess Diana played a starring rolein her coming out story.....
A year ago, Heather Peace was hard-pressed to get her mates to come down to
her pub in Brighton to hear her play her guitar. ( Her style? Eva Cassidy
meets Sheryl Crowe, since you're asking. ) But then came Lip Service, the BBC3
mini-series in which she plays cool DCI Sam Murray. It's an understatement to
say the show's created something of a buzz, particularly among 20-something
lesbians. And today it's Heather who's buzzing after a sell-out gig in
London's Soho where, randomly, her pal Clare Balding turned up and interviewed
her with co-star Ruta Gedmintas ( Frankie ), on stage. "Clare reckons that I
told Ruta I educated them all on the sex scenes, which I don't remember - that
must have been a drunken brag, it certainly isn't true. They all read the
Lesbian Karma Sutra book - cover to over!"
As we go th press, there is feverish speculation about a second series ( 編者
按: 現在已經確定了喔 ). Heather's certainly up for it - "it's the most popular
show they've ever had on BBC3," she confides - and with a steady 500000
viewers every episode and 1.5 million downloads on iPlayerit would seem crazy
not to recommission the show. For now Heather's happy to crack on with her
first love, music, and has planned a nationwide tour over the next few months.
Although she's no longer competing with Frankie for Cat's love, she now has
another battle contend with: fans who post angry messages on her website when
they can't buy tickets to her string of sold-out gigs. "I booked the venues
ages ago, before the show started," she explains, "so I really had no idea how
popular they'd be. The girls who run the Soho Theater knew me from the old
Candy Bar when I first came out. I've done three sell-out Sunday nights there
and they're all finding it hilarious; they're like, 'It's just Heather'. But
I've learned my lesson. I'm booking bigger places from now on."
Q: So let's start with sex. How was it having sex as a lesbian with a bunch of
straight actress?
A: We just used to laugh when got scenes. Fiona Button was laughing at Ruta
Gedmintas having to do the strap-on scene and then the next script came out
and she had that rimming scene! It was like the writers had gone away and
said, "Right, you" because she wouldn't let it go with Ruta. So it's less
about the girl-on-girl sex and more about just actually having sex on
telly. Or looking like you are.
Q: Was this the first time you've actually had screen-sex as a lesbian
character?
A: Yes, and the nudity in the sex scenes was pretty full-on and it was
absolutely freezing. Because those gorgeous flats are actually just ware-
-houses made to look like flats, so there was no heating. Laura had an
easier time than Ruta or Fiona, because they sort of had to change the
partners that they were, um, simulating sex with, whereas me and Laura,
once we got the initial sex scene out of the way there was a trust -
it was easier then.
Q: How do you think she felt about it?
A: I think the thing that certainly Laura struggled with more was the scene
in the last episode, where she kind of takes me. Being dominant's quite
hard if you're straight and she struggled to get that scene at first. So I
said, "Come here, I'll be you - right, you go there" and once I'd kind of
done it, she got it straight away. It's that kind of thing, the dominance
thing, more than the actual what-you-do. I find it really natural, like
picking Laura up in the police station. It just feels natural.
Q: When did you start acting?
A: When I was 20, mainly in rep theatre. I was 21 when I got ( a part in
firefighting drama ) London's Burning. There was a lot of homophobia back
then. I'd only come out when I was 19, so it was all quite new anyway, and
then moving to London.
Q: Did you think at the time, "Can I be a lesbian actress"? Did you know of
any others?
A: Yes I did, Sophie Ward, and it made me absolutely not want to. Because I
adored her when I was younger and certainly looked up to her, and after
she came out - I don't want to say she never worked again; just because you
don't see someone on TV doesn't mean they're not working - she gave up. But
I don't know the story. She would have gone on to being one of the biggest
TV stars in the world, as far as I'm concerned.
Q: Did you experience lesbophobia?
A: Yes. There was one producer in a particular show where I was the only girl
, and he told me not to talk about my sexuality because I was there as the
totty for the men. He said it wouldn't do the show any good if they knew I
was gay. That was terrifying. I was also told I was going to be outed. I
hadn't done anything, ( a Sunday newspaper ) had just found out I was gay.
At that time, my grandparents were still alive and they could never be told
. Now everybody in my family knows it, everybody that matters, so it does-
-n't matter. In the end a bigger Story broke and the paper didn't run with
it. But that meant the press always knew, and just decided not to say any-
-thing.
Q: That was bound to happen back then if you were a lesbian actress, sadly.
A: Yes, but I didn't choose this job to be famous, I love acting. And there
was nothing more scary than the of getting into a black black cab and im-
-mediately being recognised adn judged. Back then I'd been acting longer
than I had been gay! But I feel differently about it now; I feel like maybe
I do need to have a choice now, being visible. I think things have moved
on a lot but I know how important it was to have women to look up to.
Q: Do you think being out may still affect your future as an actress?
A: It'll be interesting to see what sort of acting roles come nowI've well and
truely outed myself. It wasn't that I was in the closet, I just didn't talk
about it. I think that certainly eight or nine years ago it did affect your
career, especially 'cause I was the young lead playing opposite guys. I'm
35 now so it's all down to fate. In the old days you used to think you
couldn't play opposite a boy if you'd come out because the public wouldn't
believe it.
Q: When did you come out to your mum and dad?
A: When I was 19. The day I came out to them, I was terrified and all my mum
did was put her arms around me and say, "Don't ever not tell me anything
ever again. For 18 months, she'd known that there was a distance between us
, that suddenly we were just talking about the weather, and me and my mum
had always been really close. She realised she couldn't get inside my head
and when I came out, she realised that was what it was.
Q: What made you think you might not be able to tell her?
A: I don't know, I think you underestimate your parents. I've done it before,
and I hope I won't do it again. You forget that they were young, you forget
that they had feelings, you forget they probably experimented.
Q: This was while you were still in Bradford?
A: Yeah, I'd come back from Manchester and come out. I'd just broken up with
my first girlfriend, Elaine and couldn't cope. I hadn't experienced any-
-thing like it. I was 19 and at that time I didn't know if I was gay be-
-cause I was obsessed with her. It was a total shock, and then she went off
with someone else. We were in a show together at drama school. It was a
mess. I was a baby and she was a lot older and she was absolutely fine, and
I couldn't understand why she was fine..... and that was why I came out. I
just went to my mum and said, "I'm telling you because I'm going to fuck up
my whole course." That was horrible.
Q: When did you first realise you were gay?
A: When she kissed me. Seriously! It was boiling hot in July and the heavens
opened. We got absolutely soaked, got the bus home to hers with the steam
coming off our clothes. We just couldn't believe it. That sounds like I
made it up but I haven't. It was quite an incredible and spiritual expe-
-rience.
Q: You didn't fancy anyone before?
A: I had obsessive friendships where we'd get jealous of each other when we
had boyfriends. Mu mum and dad bought me a Princess Diana and Charles wed-
-ding book. The middle page had a photo of that famous kiss where she leans
back and her neck's exposed, and I remember from about the age 11 opening
that middle page and just staring at it and having some feelings, but I
never connected it. I look back and it's all that classic stuff, but it
wasn't until it happened that I knew.
Q: Did you experience any homophobia?
A: The only time was the day that me and Elaine broke up. I remember her
holding me when I was just in bits. At that moment some drunk man came over
and he just called us every name under the sun and people in the street
were looking at us. But I've been pretty lucky so far. I've had a little
bit on Twitter actually. My girlfriend was trying to learn how to remove
some of the comments by blokes saying that I look like a man. It was really
horrible. Because it's in the public domain and I'm really aware that there
can be a backlash. I'm just a scaredy-cat about it all, to be honest. It's
not nice, is it?
Q: There will be people who say really horrible things.
A: I know. They can go stuff themselves. If someone asks if you're gay it's
literally as though they're asking someone what they do in the bedroom. I
used to think if I was ever asked when I was going to come out, or "Are
you gay?" I'd say to reporters, "Well what do you do in the bedroom? Do you
dress up as a nurse and swing from the chandelier? Don't ask what I do!"
Q: Are you seeing someone at the moment?
A: Yeah, very much so.
Q: Have you been with her for long?
A: No, about nine months, but I've known her for a long time. But it feels
very real. I'm very happy. She's younger than me, for the first time, and
she's not in the industry.
Q: That should warn a few people off, anyway.
A: Yes.
Q: And lastly how do you feel about criticisms of the show?
A: It's a show about gay women. The problem with doing a gay show is that
there's a whole community there that feel like they need representing. If
we had 50 gay shows the way we have 50 straight show, this one wouldn't be
an issue. You either like the show or you wouldn't. Let's stop whinging
about this or that. We're underrepresented enough, just go and support a
show about you and get another one made! And I think there's something in
it for everyone. There's a huge straight audience, too. I think the best
thing about this is that it's not like The L Word because it's not issue-
-based, it's about love, friendship, betrayal, lies, which everybody ex-
-periences. I think that's the most important thing, ( to just try to )
create a drama that crosses boundaries and that becomes a bit more main-
-stream. The best thing that could happen is that it does so well that they
make a second series and put both of them on BBC2. If that happenes, then
we'll know we cracked it.
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