作者 neo718 (美粧保養週年慶) 看板 transgender
標題 Re: [醫療] 請問口服與針劑荷爾蒙?
時間 Mon Apr 5 21:17:33 2010
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※ 引述《wuchien (chien)》之銘言:
: 大家好
: 我是想請問,
: 為什麼大部分FTM使用荷爾蒙是以針劑為主?
: MTF的荷爾蒙主要是用吃的?
: 有什麼考量或是什麼生物機轉的原因嗎?
: 謝謝。
聲明:以下資訊不保證其正確性。詳情請洽詢你的主治醫師以求得較正確的訊息。
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以前剛好有跟其他朋友及大型醫療藥局之藥師稍微討論過這件事,
也搜尋找過一些相關文獻。我把當時所得到的結論提供上來給各位TS參考。
首先是MTF的部分:
MTF 施行HRT的Estrogens以及Anti-androgens的部分,醫師會採用口服為主。
除了是因為此兩種成分若採用固體材質以口服進食方式,
可以提供"時間週期較常,且穩定的Hormone濃度"。
從(醫界)醫療方面的角度來看,這是較為理想及安全的做法。
另一個原因是:採用針劑包裝的Hormone,會有"半衰期"的問題產生。
所謂半衰期是指,該藥劑於施打之後,其在人體內的濃度會在一定的短暫時間之後,
濃度劇烈下降,從而造成效果降低。針季雖然可以在施打初期,造成比口服藥劑
還要高出許多的濃度比例,但是後續的持續性效果,卻不如口服來的穩定。
另一個更顯著的原因是:因為通常使用針劑的MTF,使用習慣上多為自行施打。
而由於其Hormone屬於高濃度油溶性質(非水溶性)。所以必須施打於人體肌肉組織上。
若採用自行施打,而非由專業醫療人員施行,會有容易扎入血管內的疑慮。
若是如此,這會造成相當大的危險。
想像一下,如果人體的腦部微血管被油給堵塞了會怎樣?(輕則休克,重則有死亡之虞)
就算是專業的醫護人士施打時,都還得先回抽確認沒扎到血管,才能完成注射。
再來是FTM:
FTM 之所以目前不採用口服,而以針劑為主,最大的原因是:androgen目前尚未開發
出可供口服的固體材質包裝方式。(除了技術問題,某部分可能原因或許是成本考量)
所以醫師對其FTM患者的HRT,才對都以採行針劑。
至於半衰期的問題,因為藥商所開發出之液態的androgen針劑,其單位濃度的比例,
還比液態的Estrogens針劑,濃度要低上許多。
所以半衰期問題不若Estrogens針劑明顯。且因為單位濃度較低之關係,
施打時的危險性,平均來說會較Estrogens針劑來的低。
至於以後是否會有藥商開發口服包裝,目前實際上還不確定。
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推 piaon:為什麼要刪除@@ 04/05 21:30
推 hoshiyomi:肌肉注射是在推之前要先抽看看有沒有血,沒血才能壓下去 04/05 21:30
→ neo718:要推之前,以及要抽出來前,都最好必須要檢查. 04/05 21:33
→ neo718:我印象中,以前與同校及它系同學在醫師實習時,校方跟院方 04/05 21:34
→ neo718:都會這樣提醒過. 04/05 21:34
推 swami:推推~~ 我一個護士友人也是教我要針下去之後要回抽 沒有血液 04/05 21:47
→ swami:才是針頭在肌肉內 而不是在血管裡 04/05 21:48
→ neo718:更正,在醫院實習時. 04/05 21:54
→ swami:如果藥商開發出FTM口服荷爾蒙 說不定FTM就不用挨針了 04/05 22:00
推 snowyangel65:不是退針喔~是推藥劑之前就要先回抽一下!確認是否 04/05 22:03
→ snowyangel65:有抽到血~有抽到血代表可能打到血管了,那時就要拔 04/05 22:04
→ snowyangel65:出針頭~再換個位置打,以避免將油性藥劑打入血管中 04/05 22:04
→ neo718:謝謝雪晴姐的補充. 04/05 22:07
※ 編輯: neo718 來自: 219.71.44.129 (04/05 22:10)
推 snowyangel65:這篇很值得參考~一日後刪除是否可以再考慮看看呢!? 04/05 22:10