Re: [閒聊] 以後不能用TOEFL申請英簽

[staringsky (鄧天空)]

原文恕刪


小弟昨晚收到學校(LBS)的回覆

結論是LBS的學生並不會受到這次事件的影響

從內容看起來學校應該是已經知道了4/17的新消息

經過判斷才回覆我的問題



內容重點在於LBS相對於其他學校可能有比較高的權限

(或許是因為它是Higher Education Institute的關係?)

因此有權力獨立評估學生的英文能力

第二是LBS似乎不打算在CAS上特別加註學生語言能力測驗的結果

因為學校認為他當初用了比較全面的方法來評估學生的英文能力



以下附上信件來回的內容供大家參考

兩造雙方：

小弟我以S代表

回覆問題的人是LBS的Senior Manager for Visa Compliance and Financial Aid

以H代表


(Posted: 17:29 | 19/04/14)
Title: Concern about Using TOEFL score to apply for student visa

Hi H,

This is S from Taiwan, a student of MiM 2015.
I took a TOEFL exam in last June and used it to apply for LBS MiM programme.
However, I just noticed the recent announcements of UK Border Agency and of
ETS. ETS' SELT license seems to have been cancelled by UK Home Office on 4/5.
Therefore, I am wondering whether I can use my TOEFL score to obtain a CAS
letter and apply for the student visa. In my understanding,  some people on
the Internet said that their visa applications had been suspended by UKBA
because they had used TOEFL or TOEIC as proof of English proficiency. Also,
some admitted students of UK schools have been asked to take an IELTS exam to
replace their TOEFL grades.

Thus, I am wondering whether LBS will cancel its sponsorship of visa for
students who used TOEFL as proof of English ability in their admission
application. If so, I believe that I will need to prepare for and take an
IELTS test as soon as possible in order to obtain the student visa before my
departure from my home country in mid-July. Please kindly provide the
detailed update about the current situation of this issue.

Many thanks!
S


(Posted: 08:44 | 22/04/14 )
Re: Concern about Using TOEFL score to apply for student visa

Hi S,

Thanks for your query. The short answer is that there is no change to what
you need to do, and certainly no need to take an additional English language
test.

The longer answer is that there are two different issues here 1) What does
LBS use to confirm your English is a sufficient standard? and 2) What does
the UK Home Office require in terms of confirmation that your English is a
sufficient standard?



In terms of point 1 - our requirements have not changed and are independent
of anything set by the Home Office. If your English is judged to be of the
required standard - demonstrated through your TOEFL, application, interviews
etc, then this is what your offer at LBS has been based on.

In terms of point 2 - LBS is permitted within the regulations of the Home
Office to make its own judgement of students' English language competency. We
don't specifically state your TOEFL or TOEIC scores as we use a more holistic
approach to confirming your competency. As such, the change to the Home
Office approach has had no impact on the way in which LBS confirms English
language competence.



I hope that helps - let me know if you have any questions.

Kind regards

H

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※ 編輯: staringsky (211.79.136.67), 04/23/2014 14:52:37
推 mydreamcome :推!!
→ mydreamcome :考雅思比較簡單,可以到IELTS板搜尋"心得",有很多技巧
推 m800728m    :所以是只有LBS有權利不鳥Home Office嗎......
→ staringsky  :其實我不知道背後的原因欸 可能跟HEI有關吧
→ staringsky  :可以問問學校能不能這樣處理
→ Invec       :一票學校都是HEI LBS並沒有比較特別
→ jean950030  :信沒有特別指出LBS有高於他校的權限，大家都算HEI吧
→ jean950030  :英國教育系統中,Secondary schools以上,，能授予正
→ jean950030  :位的教育機構都是Higher education Institutions
→ jean950030  :所以板上大多數都是去念HEI的課程。
→ ahyang      :still not very sure if the CAS by LBS will not
→ ahyang      :state TOEFL 'score' or no english test of any
→ ahyang      :kind... but this means the school will try to
→ ahyang      :assist you to avoid the need to take new english
→ ahyang      :test whatever they can.
→ staringsky  :等我五月多拿到CAS再看看上面有沒有註記TOEFL成績吧
推 mic2hael    :明天就要簽證...不知道該不該去...
推 rover10     :樓上去幫大家探探路?
→ ahyang      :@原po：HEI以自己的方式評量語言能力（以及學習進度
→ ahyang      :）通常是針對已經入學的學生，需要延簽時，學校發的
→ ahyang      :新CAS只會說明學校認可學生的學習表現和語言能力，所
→ ahyang      :以不會另列任何語言測驗成績，或者重複列出入學時採
→ ahyang      :用的語言測驗成績或認可語言能力用的學位。以你新入
→ ahyang      :學的情況，可能還有變數。可能要有心理準備。
→ staringsky  :嗯 我了解 只有LBS說不受影響確實是蠻令人質疑的
→ staringsky  :等我五月多拿到CAS再po上來跟眾板友討論看看