[紅襪] 07/20 小聯盟戰報

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標題[紅襪] 07/20 小聯盟戰報

時間Mon Jul 21 13:09:57 2014

1. 小聯盟戰報 (55-48)Paw Sox http://0rz.tw/lDtMQ 3-2 Buffalo (藍鳥) (64-37)Sea Dogs http://0rz.tw/wdxse 2-3 New Hampshire (藍鳥) (45-52) Salem http://0rz.tw/4gypi 2-3 Potomac (國民) (41-58) Drive http://0rz.tw/BzcrA 1-3 Asheville (洛磯) (41-59) Drive http://0rz.tw/n95Hh 2-3 Asheville (洛磯) (7局) (16-20) Lowell http://0rz.tw/aGOIf 6-5 Auburn (國民) Pawtucket AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG Betts, CF 4 0 0 0 0 1 1 .309 Torres, A, RF 4 1 2 0 0 0 0 .292 Middlebrooks, DH 4 1 2 0 0 1 2 .258 GIDP Shaw, T, 1B 2 1 1 3 1 0 1 .272 3-run SB Rivero, C, 3B 3 0 0 0 0 1 2 .277 Hassan, LF 3 0 1 0 0 1 1 .281 Marrero, SS 3 0 0 0 0 0 2 .298 GIDP Spring, C 3 0 0 0 0 1 0 .250 McCoy, M, 2B 3 0 1 0 0 1 0 .189 Error Totals 29 3 7 3 1 6 9 .253 BATTING HR: Shaw, T (8, 6th inning off Walters, P, 2 on, 2 out). TB: Hassan; Shaw, T 4; Torres, A 2; Middlebrooks 2; McCoy, M. RBI: Shaw, T 3 (28). 2-out RBI: Shaw, T 3. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Marrero. GIDP: Marrero, Middlebrooks. Team RISP: 1-for-4. Team LOB: 3. BASERUNNING SB: Shaw, T (2, 2nd base off Walters, P/Nickeas). FIELDING E: McCoy, M (4, throw). Pawtucket IP H R ER BB SO HR BF PC-ST ERA GO-FO Ranaudo (W, 11-4) 6.2 3 1 1 3 4 1 27 99-62 2.54 5-6 HBP Britton, D (H, 5) 1.1 1 1 0 0 0 0 5 12-7 5.13 1-3 Layne (S, 10) 1.0 0 0 0 0 1 0 3 15-8 1.57 0-1 Totals 9.0 4 2 1 3 5 1 3.51 PITCHING HBP: Wallace (by Ranaudo). Pitches-strikes: Ranaudo 99-62, Britton, D 12-7, Layne 15-8. Groundouts-flyouts: Ranaudo 5-6, Britton, D 1-3, Layne 0-1. Batters faced: Ranaudo 27, Britton, D 5, Layne 3. Inherited runners-scored: Britton, D 2-0. Portland AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG Gibson, CF 4 0 2 0 0 1 1 .319 PO Wilkerson, RF 4 0 2 1 0 1 0 .279 Error Coyle, 2B 4 1 2 0 0 1 2 .325 Chester, DH 4 0 1 1 0 0 4 .278 2B GIDP Welch, 1B 4 0 0 0 0 2 1 .226 Brenly, C 4 0 1 0 0 3 0 .231 三條 Hissey, LF 4 0 2 0 0 0 1 .293 Meneses, SS 4 0 1 0 0 0 2 .186 Dent, 3B 4 1 2 0 0 0 2 .321 2B Totals 36 2 13 2 0 8 13 .281 BATTING 2B: Chester (9, Lawrence), Dent (3, Lawrence). TB: Brenly; Gibson 2; Dent 3; Wilkerson 2; Chester 2; Hissey 2; Meneses; Coyle 2. RBI: Chester (22), Wilkerson (33). 2-out RBI: Chester. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Welch; Chester. SAC: Gibson. GIDP: Chester. Team RISP: 2-for-7. Team LOB: 8. BASERUNNING PO: Gibson (2nd base by Lawrence). FIELDING E: Wilkerson (1, fielding). DP: (Meneses-Coyle-Welch). Portland IP H R ER BB SO HR BF PC-ST ERA GO-FO Johnson, B 6.0 6 1 0 1 3 0 24 95-58 2.32 5-3 Diaz, D (H, 1) 2.0 2 0 0 1 0 0 8 26-17 0.00 2-1 Kurcz (BS, 2) (L, 2-2) 0.2 2 2 2 2 1 0 6 32-18 2.36 0-1 Totals 8.2 10 3 2 4 4 0 3.65 PITCHING Pitches-strikes: Johnson, B 95-58, Diaz, D 26-17, Kurcz 32-18. Groundouts-flyouts: Johnson, B 5-3, Diaz, D 2-1, Kurcz 0-1. Batters faced: Johnson, B 24, Diaz, D 8, Kurcz 6. Salem AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG Asuaje, 2B 4 0 0 0 0 1 3 .125 Miller, M, SS 4 0 0 0 0 2 0 .325 Witte, DH 4 0 2 0 0 0 0 .291 2 2Bs Blair, C, C 4 1 1 0 0 2 2 .268 2B Martinez, M, 3B 3 0 2 0 1 0 2 .273 Tavarez, A, RF 4 0 0 0 0 3 7 .244 三條 GIDP Gedman, 1B 4 0 0 0 0 1 2 .196 Moore, LF 3 1 1 0 1 1 0 .286 SB Assist Johnson, M, CF 3 0 1 1 1 2 0 .251 SB Totals 33 2 7 1 3 12 16 .253 BATTING 2B: Blair, C (18, Pena, R), Witte 2 (11, Mirowski, Walsh). TB: Martinez, M 2; Blair, C 2; Johnson, M; Witte 4; Moore. RBI: Johnson, M (36). Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Asuaje 2; Tavarez, A 2. GIDP: Tavarez, A. Team RISP: 1-for-9. Team LOB: 7. BASERUNNING SB: Moore (1, 2nd base off Mirowski/Severino), Johnson, M (30, 2nd base off Mirowski/Severino). FIELDING Outfield assists: Moore (Severino at 2nd base). DP: (Martinez, M-Asuaje-Gedman). Salem IP H R ER BB SO HR BF ERA GO-FO Kukuk 5.0 5 1 1 1 5 0 19 6.15 3-3 Younginer 2.0 0 0 0 0 3 0 6 5.10 3-0 Martin, K (BS, 3) (L, 3-4) 2.0 3 2 2 0 2 2 8 3.54 2-0 Totals 9.0 8 3 3 1 10 2 4.29 PITCHING Groundouts-flyouts: Kukuk 3-3, Younginer 3-0, Martin, K 2-0. Batters faced: Kukuk 19, Younginer 6, Martin, K 8. Greenville - 1 AB R H RBI BB SO AVG Cole Sturgeon CF 4 0 1 1 0 0 .240 Wendell Rijo DH 4 0 0 0 0 1 .261 Tim Roberson 1B 4 0 0 0 0 1 .233 Kevin Mager LF 4 0 1 0 0 2 .250 Jake Romanski C 3 0 0 0 1 0 .288 CS Jimmy Rider SS 4 0 1 0 0 1 .254 Franklin Guzman RF 3 1 0 0 1 1 .296 Aneudis Peralta 3B 4 0 0 0 0 1 .272 Hector Lorenzana 2B 2 0 2 0 1 0 1.000 2B Totals 32 1 5 1 3 7 .266 BATTING 2B: Lorenzana (1, Jiminian). TB: Lorenzana 3; Mager; Rider; Sturgeon. RBI: Sturgeon (9). 2-out RBI: Sturgeon. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Guzman; Rijo; Sturgeon 2; Peralta, A. Team RISP: 1-for-9. Team LOB: 7. BASERUNNING CS: Romanski (5, 2nd base by Jiminian/Briceno, J). FIELDING DP: (Lorenzana-Rider-Roberson). Greenville - 1 IP H R ER BB SO HR BF PC-ST ERA GO-FO Teddy Stankiewicz 6.2 6 1 1 2 9 0 26 95-65 4.30 4-4 WP Taylor Grover (L, 1-4) 2.1 1 2 2 1 1 1 4 40-25 4.61 3-0 Totals 9.0 7 3 3 3 10 1 4.84 PITCHING WP: Stankiewicz. Pitches-strikes: Stankiewicz 95-65, Grover 40-25. Groundouts-flyouts: Stankiewicz 4-4, Grover 3-0. Batters faced: Stankiewicz 26, Grover 9. Inherited runners-scored: Grover 3-0. Greenville - 2 AB R H RBI BB SO AVG Cole Sturgeon CF 3 0 0 0 0 0 .226 GIDP Wendell Rijo 2B 3 2 2 2 0 0 .265 2 solo HRs Tim Roberson 1B 2 0 0 0 1 2 .230 Kevin Mager DH 3 0 0 0 0 2 .245 Franklin Guzman RF 3 0 1 0 0 0 .300 Jimmy Rider 3B 3 0 0 0 0 1 .251 GIDP Zach Kapstein LF 2 0 0 0 1 0 .285 Hector Lorenzana SS 2 0 1 0 0 0 .750 Carlos Coste C 2 0 0 0 0 0 .319 Totals 23 2 4 2 2 5 .266 BATTING HR: Rijo 2 (6, 1st inning off Jemiola, 0 on, 1 out; 3rd inning off Jemiola, 0 on, 2 out). TB: Lorenzana; Rijo 8; Guzman. RBI: Rijo 2 (28). 2-out RBI: Rijo. GIDP: Rider, Sturgeon. Team LOB: 2. Greenville - 2 IP H R ER BB SO HR BF PC-ST ERA GO-FO Jason Garcia 6.0 4 2 2 1 6 0 23 82-51 7.11 5-2 German Taveras (L, 0-1) 1.0 1 1 1 2 0 0 6 18-7 4.26 1-2 Totals 7.0 5 3 3 3 6 0 4.83 PITCHING WP: Taveras, G. Pitches-strikes: Garcia, Ja 82-51, Taveras, G 18-7. Groundouts-flyouts: Garcia, Ja 5-2, Taveras, G 1-2. Batters faced: Garcia, Ja 23, Taveras, G 6. Lowell AB R H RBI BB SO LOB AVG Mars, CF 5 0 1 1 0 0 2 .367 Flores, R, SS 4 1 1 0 1 1 2 .277 Error Travis, 1B 5 0 1 0 0 0 2 .292 Betts, 3B 3 0 1 1 1 2 1 .292 Error Longhi, RF 5 1 2 0 0 0 4 .324 Meyers, LF 5 2 2 1 0 1 1 .241 2 Assists 3B Procyshen, C 3 1 2 0 1 0 0 .333 Tellez, DH 2 0 0 1 1 0 1 .211 PO Lopez, De, 2B 3 1 1 0 0 1 1 .260 Error Totals 35 6 11 4 4 5 14 .258 BATTING 3B: Meyers (4, Van Orden). TB: Travis; Lopez, De; Flores, R; Meyers 4; Longhi 2; Procyshen 2; Betts; Mars. RBI: Tellez (5), Mars (10), Meyers (13), Betts (18). 2-out RBI: Mars; Meyers. Runners left in scoring position, 2 out: Longhi; Flores, R; Tellez. SF: Tellez; Betts. Team RISP: 2-for-6. Team LOB: 9. BASERUNNING PO: Tellez (1st base by Read). FIELDING E: Flores, R (7, throw), Lopez, De (7, throw), Betts (4, fielding). Outfield assists: Meyers 2 (Marmolejos-Diaz at 3rd base, Abreu, O at home). DP: 3 (Meyers-Flores, R-Lopez, De, Meyers-Procyshen, Lopez, De-Flores, R-Travis). Lowell IP H R ER BB SO HR BF ERA GO-FO Wilkerson (W, 1-0) 6.0 3 2 1 2 7 0 23 1.50 4-5 Harris 0.2 2 2 2 0 2 0 6 27.00 0-0 WP 2 HBPs Jimenez, El (H, 2) 1.1 0 0 0 0 2 0 4 6.05 2-0 Pinales (S, 10) 1.0 1 1 1 0 0 0 4 3.18 3-0 Totals 9.0 6 5 4 2 11 0 4.83 PITCHING WP: Harris. HBP: Langlois (by Harris), Abreu, O (by Harris). Groundouts-flyouts: Wilkerson 4-5, Harris 0-0, Jimenez, El 2-0, Pinales 3-0. Batters faced: Wilkerson 23, Harris 6, Jimenez, El 4, Pinales 4. Inherited runners-scored: Jimenez, El 2-0. 2. 07/22 明日先發： Allen Webster (Paw), Wilfredo Boscan (Por), Corey Littrell (Sal), Jamie Callahan (Gre), Reed Reilly (Low). 代班做小聯盟戰報的第二天~ 贏了2場一分差輸了3場一分差還有一場是輸2分繼昨天對小聯盟有些認識後今天做box又發現跟大聯盟不同的地方一般而言比賽應該是四位裁判而小聯盟3A、2A有三位裁判分別站本壘、1B、3B 而更低的層級只有兩位裁判分別站本壘、1B @@ -- I still have lots more to work on. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 140.122.187.220 ※ 文章網址: http://www.ptt.cc/bbs/RedSox/M.1405919401.A.645.html

推 burnie:推 07/21 14:13

推 mygoing:推~長知識 07/21 14:23

推 maxspeed150:今年9月沒戰績壓力的話應該會看到Ranaudo 07/21 14:23

→ maxspeed150:下面的Brian Johnson希望明年也有機會爭取#5 07/21 14:24

推 seekforever:有消息說我們對Hamels有興趣當Lester離隊時的保險 07/21 16:57

→ seekforever:他還有90M/4yrs的保證約重點是這四年是他的31-34歲 07/21 16:59

→ seekforever:Cafardo認為拿出3隻top10 就能拿到Hamels 07/21 17:00

→ seekforever:紅襪是9支Hamels無法拒絕交易的球隊之一 07/21 17:01

推 makotohsia:Lester留不住人再用prospect換Hamels是有事嗎? 07/21 17:12

推 makotohsia:Lester誠意留人，再換Hamels才有意義 07/21 17:16

→ makotohsia:如果真不想留或留不住，那應該把Lester拿去換他隊農場 07/21 17:17

推 alex710707:講來講去或是原因就是球隊對Lester的未來沒信心 07/21 17:22

→ alex710707:至於是否真的這樣或是球隊有什麼資訊外人就不得而知 07/21 17:23

推 makotohsia:Hamels如果不出Betts,XB,Owens,Swihart這4取2 07/21 17:36

→ makotohsia:我不相信換的到，如果真放棄了這4人中的兩人 07/21 17:37

→ makotohsia:那也............了 07/21 17:37

推 piconeko:Betts怎麼下3a了~ 07/21 18:20

推 KayRain:因為夏威夷人回來了他留著也沒位子不如回3A先發 07/21 18:37

推 alex710707:你說的4選2這個包裹跟當初老虎換胖卡是差不多的水準 07/21 18:49

→ alex710707:費城人真的要這等級的包我懷疑是否有球隊願意換 07/21 18:49

→ alex710707:Hammels戰力年紀薪水都不如當初的胖卡 07/21 18:49

推 seekforever:我覺得mako真的想太多換Hamels出的會是Webster這等級 07/21 19:11

→ seekforever:他跟Lester的最大差別是進FA的年紀不同 07/21 19:13

→ seekforever:如果像某些版友說的用七年約留Lester 金額先不管 07/21 19:13

→ seekforever:cover到的會是Lester的31-37歲而Hamels的七年約 07/21 19:15

→ seekforever:則是涵蓋他28-34歲的巔峰期他生涯成績也比Lester好些 07/21 19:16

→ seekforever:加上現在換Hamels 剩四年約也符合FO偏好短約的方針 07/21 19:18

推 boston31:我也猜Lester有秘密在制服組身上 07/21 19:46

→ boston31:Lester如果之後沒有搭配Ross 還有辦法如此鬼神嗎?Y 07/21 19:47

推 alex710707:關鍵不是Ross 他威很久了 07/21 19:50

推 alex710707:只出Webster是買不到Hammels的,除非他們GM白癡 07/21 19:51

→ alex710707:關鍵是費城人要不要賣,他們大可開高價要兩隻頂級新秀 07/21 19:51

→ alex710707:大不了沒人買他們不賣而已 07/21 19:52

推 jameshu0910:我不知道Lester到底是哪邊得罪FO了,放著自己養出的 07/21 20:01

→ jameshu0910:Ace不簽反而想跑去外面找真的讓人心冷,就算Overpaid 07/21 20:02

→ jameshu0910:又如何,我們付不起嗎??? 07/21 20:02

→ aayumi1109:我想就像其他板友說得，掐靈頓得了牽長約會死的病 07/21 21:01

推 seekforever:我說的是"Webster這等級" 的2-3個新秀 07/21 22:03

→ seekforever:事實上這也等於2-3支 top 100了 07/21 22:04

推 seekforever:另外最近幾篇外電也有提到如果不給長約是固定政策 07/21 22:09

→ seekforever:那就不能有例外否則FO很難跟FA還有他的經紀人解釋 07/21 22:10

推 betadu:當然不是都不給長約每個人的狀況不同 07/21 22:21

推 KayRain:如果不給長約是固定政策那真的是有夠蠢 07/21 22:29

推 lingon:近年來ＦＡ有幾份五年以上的長約是值得的？ 07/21 22:31

推 lovemost:之前簽的幾個FA...高薪短約很合理呀... 07/21 22:35

推 jameshu0910:那請問一下好了,若要爭取頂級FA,開5Y-會有人理嗎,還是 07/21 22:54

→ jameshu0910:真以為中等FA的高薪短約每次都包中??? 07/21 22:55

推 KayRain:不給長約不要說外面的頂級FA 連自己人都留不住我們難道是 07/21 22:59

→ KayRain:那種總是把魚養大再賣掉的小市場球隊嗎 07/21 22:59

推 makotohsia:Cherington給了一張長約，Pedroia 8y/110，應該不至於 07/21 23:17

→ makotohsia:絕不給長約，不過反過來說Pedroia會簽這張也挺意外 07/21 23:18

→ makotohsia:我覺得把魚養大再賣不見得就是不好，問題是把Lester丟 07/21 23:20

→ makotohsia:能換到什麼料才是重點 07/21 23:22

推 tsubasa6405:我覺得Lester也不是那種非得七年約才能簽下來的 07/22 01:55

→ tsubasa6405:一開始5年100~110應該就能搞定結果搞得越來越複雜 07/22 01:57

→ tsubasa6405:一年18的短約別說Ace 30歲的2,3號SP都簽不太下來了 07/22 02:00

→ tsubasa6405:自家的開4年70 備案同齡4年90還要掉2~3隻大魚搞不懂 07/22 02:05

推 tsubasa6405:唯一的合理解釋就是高層也沒有真的要搞簡樸打球 07/22 02:12

→ tsubasa6405:但是Lester的未來被看衰到一個極致 07/22 02:12

→ tsubasa6405:....只是很多情況喜歡算這麼精結果就是落的兩頭空 07/22 02:18

→ zxcv6578:推 07/22 04:33

推 zxcv6578:推 07/22 04:36

推 alex710707:如果2~3隻Webster等級新秀換的到Hamels 我覺得也蠻值得 07/22 08:15

→ alex710707:Webster+Ranaudo+Cecchini換得到應該不用考慮但費城 07/22 08:15

→ alex710707:應該比較想要Swihart, Owens, Betts其中一個,而不是那 07/22 08:15

→ alex710707:個稍次一等的新秀 07/22 08:15

推 KAIS:那三隻換得到真的是不用考慮了，但費城應該沒那麼好噱吧>< 07/22 09:12

推 alex710707:我覺得正常的代價應該是Swiahrt, Owens, Betts, 07/22 09:15

推 seekforever:Gammons聽說 Lester春訓時告訴隊友給他Bailey的約 07/22 09:15

→ seekforever:(105M/6yrs) 他就願意留下來但現在當然是另一回事了 07/22 09:15

→ alex710707:Bogaerts四選一去搭配Webster等級的配菜 Hamels雖貴 07/22 09:16

→ alex710707:但年輕無退化跡象約也不差市場上也沒幾個這種貨色 07/22 09:17

→ alex710707:故要個一隻A級新秀搭配B級新秀的包裹不過份 07/22 09:18

→ alex710707:但現在Hamels是賣方說了算他們也可堅持一定要兩隻A級 07/22 09:18

→ alex710707:不爽你就別買而已 07/22 09:19

推 seekforever:這種包裹是Price的價碼 Hamels已經綁了不小的約了 07/22 09:19

→ seekforever:個人覺得Bogaerts跟其他三個應該是不同等級的 07/22 09:20

→ alex710707:費城沒有賣他的迫切需求啊而且真要放他不會只有我們 07/22 09:20

→ alex710707:有興趣放到交易市場競標讓出價高的去買 07/22 09:21

→ seekforever:Salary relief就是費城的需求跟我們前年一樣 07/22 09:21

→ seekforever:話說回來 Cherington那筆交易根本太神 07/22 09:22

→ seekforever:想不到連A-Gon都鳥掉 07/22 09:22

→ alex710707:可是Hamels不是爛約而且31~34歲 1年22.5M是很棒的約 07/22 09:23

→ seekforever:能吃下一年20+M大約的球隊真的沒有想像中的多 07/22 09:24

→ alex710707:他現在出現在FA平均年薪是25M等級的費城要降薪也該 07/22 09:24

→ alex710707:從Cliff Lee著手 07/22 09:24

→ seekforever:我同意他是25M等級的阿只是這類貨買家本來就有限 07/22 09:26

→ seekforever:要清掉LEE費城不吃錢大概很難他16年還有12.5MBuyout 07/22 09:27

推 alex710707:如果費城GM蠢到收Webster等級的貨(不管幾隻)去換我會 07/22 09:29

→ alex710707:爽翻當然如果費城搞之前A Gon那模式好約搭爛約的方 07/22 09:30

→ alex710707:式交易就另當別論 07/22 09:30

推 seekforever:痾 Webster也沒那麼不堪吧在MLB.com的排名 07/22 09:33

→ seekforever:他比基基的no.1 Gary Sanchez還前面1名耶 07/22 09:34

推 alex710707:MLB官網的排名看看就好.. 07/22 09:38

→ alex710707:他家的排名好像大部份都是50~70左右 07/22 09:39

→ alex710707:Webster不錯但應該說Hamels沒那麼不堪 XD 07/22 09:41

推 seekforever:其實BP的排名裡Webster, Cecchni也比Sanchez高 07/22 09:41

→ seekforever:50-70的新秀x3 個人覺得實在不能說是不堪的包裹 07/22 09:42

推 alex710707:Cecchini的問題本季已經曝露出來了 Ranaudo原本就有 07/22 09:45

→ alex710707:問題 07/22 09:45

→ alex710707:Ranaudo大部分的排名都是進不了百大的 07/22 09:47

→ alex710707:我覺得Vazquez都比Cecchini與Ranaudo有價值他可能還比 07/22 09:49

→ alex710707:得上Webster XD 07/22 09:50

推 seekforever:Ranaudo這季改善控球之後進步很多吧 07/22 09:52

→ seekforever:以自用的角度我覺得他搞不好比Webster還快站穩Major 07/22 09:53

→ seekforever:以現在的消息來看 Vazquez, Swihart, Betts, Owens 07/22 09:54

推 alex710707:看BB/9 他的控球應該沒啥進步吧? 而且他的球威普普 07/22 09:54

→ seekforever:加上XB, RDLR這幾個都是非賣品 07/22 09:54

→ alex710707:他能當後段輪值就不錯了 Stuff遠輸Webster 07/22 09:55

→ seekforever:Webster之前看他那幾場覺得心理問題比較大吧 07/22 09:55

→ seekforever:壘上一有人就頻頻擦汗 Stuff好也沒用阿 07/22 09:56

→ alex710707:你說的幾個只有Bogaerts比較像非賣品.Vazquez跟Swihart 07/22 09:56

→ alex710707:位置都重疊了 Betts也是有人卡著 JBJ and Pedroia 07/22 09:57

→ alex710707:Owens跟Rubby也不到非賣的地步.. 能拿Hamels或史大砲 07/22 09:58

推 seekforever:Vazquez跟Swihart, Betts跟JBJ 都還沒證明可以站穩 07/22 09:58

→ alex710707:除了Boagerts以外都能考慮丟吧.. 07/22 09:58

→ seekforever:留著看看未來發展狀況會如何另外這是Gammons說的XD 07/22 09:59

→ seekforever:能拿Stanton 當然就沒有非賣品的問題啊XD 07/22 09:59

→ seekforever:Hamels跟Stanton 這兩個交易價值也不是同一個層面的 07/22 10:00

推 alex710707:兩個是不同層面沒錯啊所以差在要丟幾隻A級貨 07/22 10:20

→ alex710707:Stanton 2~3隻A級跑不掉 Hamels丟1隻A還可接受 07/22 10:20

推 Orcish: 07/22 12:06

推 hahabis:近七年只有一年era破4, 開個100M/5 很難嗎? 07/22 12:24