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波音去年11月底說6-8周後提供MAX軟體更新 照時程推算是一月 但那時候政府關門中.. 目前還不敢肯定 軟體更新延宕真的是因為政府關門 但軟體更新延遲到三月或四月才發布是肯定的 所以MCAS的BUG現在還在....Orz https://af.reuters.com/article/commoditiesNews/idAFL1N20X080 AFRICATECHMARCH 11, 2019 / 7:01 AM / UPDATED 2 HOURS AGO UPDATE 2-Boeing's 737 MAX back in spotlight after second fatal crash Tracy Rucinski, David Shepardson 5 MIN READ (Adds Boeing postponing media event) By Tracy Rucinski and David Shepardson CHICAGO/WASHINGTON March 10 (Reuters) - The latest version of Boeing Co’s best-selling 737 family - a global industry workhorse - has again been thrust into the spotlight after a fatal crash in Ethiopia, months after a deadly crash involving an identical brand-new jet in Indonesia. A Nairobi-bound Boeing 737 MAX 8 operated by Ethiopian Airlines crashed minutes after takeoff from Addis Adaba, killing all 157 on board. The same model flown by Lion Air crashed off the coast of Indonesia in October, killing all 189 on board. There are still unanswered questions about the causes of the Lion Air crash, and officials and safety experts said it was too soon to draw links with the Ethiopian incident. Boeing did not respond to questions about the 737 MAX 8 on Sunday but said in a statement it would send a technical team to the crash site to provide assistance. Boeing’s shares lost 12 percent in the weeks following the Lion Air crash, but have more than recouped those declines, closing on Friday at $422.54, 18 percent higher than before the Oct. 29 incident in Indonesia. Boeing’s 737 MAX is the newest version of a jet that has been a fixture of passenger travel for decades and the cash cow of the world’s largest aircraft maker, competing against Airbus SE’s A320neo family of single-aisle jetliners. The decades-old 737 family is considered one of the industry’s most reliable aircraft. Boeing rolled out the fuel-efficient MAX 8 in 2017 as an update to the already redesigned 50-year-old 737, and had delivered 350 MAX jets out of the total order tally of 5,011 aircraft by the end of January. Former NTSB Chairman Mark Rosenker said the catastrophic crashes of two new airplanes soon after the 737 MAX 8 was introduced were “highly unusual” and both had broad similarities in that they went down soon after takeoff. While it is unclear if there is a direct link, “this is now an extraordinary issue” for aviation safety officials to grapple with and will prompt a sweeping investigation to determine if there are common issues, Rosenker said. Dallas-based Southwest Airlines Co is the biggest operator of the MAX 8, with 31 aircraft, followed by American Airlines Group Inc and Air Canada with 24 each. Southwest and American said on Sunday they remained fully confident in the aircraft and were closely monitoring the investigation. Aviation analyst Scott Hamilton cautioned against drawing comparisons between the two crashes, especially before the black box recorders are recovered. Ethiopian has a strong reputation and good safety record, he said in a blog post. Still, the crash puts fresh pressure on Boeing just days before it had planned an event to debut another aircraft. Late Sunday, Boeing said it would postpone the planned ceremonial debut of its 777x widebody aircraft that had been set for Wednesday in Seattle and was to be livestreamed. The company said it is focused on “supporting” Ethiopian Airlines and “ will look for an opportunity to mark the new plane with the world in the near future.” INVESTIGATION AND LITIGATION Following the Lion Air crash, Boeing faced criticism from some U.S. pilot unions for not having detailed in its flight manual a change in the way that software on the MAX reacts in a stall compared with a previous version. Boeing has insisted that cockpit procedures were already in place to deal with problems that the Lion Air jet experienced. A preliminary report into the Lion Air crash focused on airline maintenance and training, as well as the technical response of the anti-stall system to a recently replaced sensor, but did not give a reason for the crash. Since then, the cockpit voice recorder was recovered and a final report is due later this year. Boeing was expected to introduce a software patch to help address the scenario faced by the Lion Air crew in late March or April, government and industry officials told Reuters in recent weeks. Boeing is already facing a string of lawsuits in the United States by families of the Lion Air crash victims, including five cases in U.S. federal court in Illinois where Boeing has its Chicago headquarters. The 737 MAX 8 uses LEAP-1B engines made by CFM International, a joint venture of General Electric Co and Safran SA. (Reporting by Tracy Rucinski in Chicago and David Shepardson in Washington; Additional reporting by Tim Hepher in Paris, Allison Lampert in Montreal and Nate Raymond in Boston; Editing by Peter Cooney and Marguerita Choy) -- σ ◢◤ 有PTT使用上的問題嗎? ^ ^ 按 hh 會有〝小天使〞為你解惑唷! ▆▌ /: \ φseven ▍◥ ▎▋◥ √√ -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 114.43.133.92 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Aviation/M.1552276957.A.37C.html
PONANZA: 是要跟政府機關一起code review嗎.... 03/11 12:05
差不多的意思 不過沒有具體來源 所以我也只能夠說是疑似 不給肯定語氣 ※ 編輯: ttnakafzcm (114.43.133.92), 03/11/2019 12:06:32
Vett: 這連疑似的程度都沒到 03/11 12:11
sweet16kate: 這理由牽拖有點大 03/11 12:25
sam455205: 所以都沒更新? 03/11 12:26
gemilay: 波音是政府機構嗎? 03/11 12:34
scopeowl: 理由很爛 03/11 12:37
cyclohexane: 波音跟美國政府的關係是。。。? 03/11 12:37
理由是跟FAA討論具體改善方案 FAA關門了 所以...... 但說真的我也覺得如果是這理由 真的很爛.. ※ 編輯: ttnakafzcm (114.43.133.92), 03/11/2019 12:40:23
nrl952006: 害人不淺...... 這理由 03/11 12:52
domago: 不太相信 這麼重要的更新可以拖延 03/11 13:01
但這篇的確有提到要到三四月才提供 原本時程是壓在一月底左右要發布的.... ※ 編輯: ttnakafzcm (114.43.133.92), 03/11/2019 13:04:55
Yijhen0525: 私人公司跟政府有什麼關聯..... 03/11 13:25
Yijhen0525: 這理由真的不是推託之詞嗎.... 03/11 13:26
GaryMatthews: 跟米國政府有什麼關係 飛機製造商又不是他們 03/11 13:33
chewie: 如果說發布更新需要經過NTSB審核 那就也許有關係 類似之前 03/11 13:38
mjonask: 這也太罔顧人命了吧? 03/11 13:38
chewie: 挪威航空故障迫降伊朗那次引擎拿不到出口許可? 03/11 13:41
chewie: 應該是FAA 說錯 03/11 13:41
ttnakafzcm: 如果是要FAA審核那就還行 但如果不是 那這理由很爛 03/11 13:43
xvited945: 所以軟體更新需要FAA審核囉 03/11 13:51
xvited945: 說真的,FAA這種重要機構根本不該受關門影響... 03/11 13:52
xvited945: 我媽同學在聯邦政府上班,她說某些機關是不會被關門的 03/11 13:53
xvited945: ,那段時間依舊要正常運作 03/11 13:53
cgy: AD/SB當然要FAA審核 03/11 14:09
court0043: https://bit.ly/2F1PnIX 03/11 14:12
court0043: 看起來是波音自己都還沒決定要改到什麼程度,還不到審核 03/11 14:13
court0043: 的程度(在等獅航事故的進一步調查). 03/11 14:14
domago: 適航證明可以燒了 03/11 14:14
Yijhen0525: 難道不能用重大影響飛安的理由先更新嗎..... 03/11 14:40
Yijhen0525: 還是說就只能眼睜睜看著發生卻無法作為? 03/11 14:42
tomho1202: BS... 03/11 15:19
happyennovy: 牽拖機率比較大,波音很意外嗎 03/11 15:20
coolfish1103: 波音沒人甩鍋要怪政府了? 03/11 15:32
sandiegopadr: 原來是垃圾啊 我還以為是波音呢 03/11 15:38
yuinghoooo: 那就美國人自己坐就好了,其他國家可以先升級啊 03/11 17:19
qwe753951: 沒人感喊停飛啊,利益牽扯太龐大了,就這樣讓不安全的 03/11 21:08
qwe753951: 飛機繼續飛 03/11 21:08
court0043: 波音想要的修正程度是不會在獅航訴訟中不利,之前就全 03/11 22:24
court0043: 推給獅航訓練及pilots了。歷史上名古屋空難空巴也的確 03/11 22:24
court0043: 有成功。 03/11 22:24
lwei781: 為了 legal 害死更多人 03/12 03:01