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[媒體名稱] Simply Flying [新聞日期]2023/1/11 [網址] https://simpleflying.com/emirates-a380-returns-to-taipei/ [內文] Emirates計畫於2023/8/1 恢復A380 (三艙等)飛航台北 Emirates has confirmed the return of the A380 to Taipei after a three-and-a-half-year absence. Now bookable, it'll again use the superjumbo to Taiwan from this August, replacing the 777-300ER. It comes as Korean Air, which had planned to use the A380 between Seoul and Taipei for just two months, extends it through the year. Emirates A380 to Taipei As of January 11th, but still liable to change, Emirates expects to use the A380 to Taipei from August 1st. It'll run 1x daily. It began using the double-decker to the Taiwanese city daily in May 2016, ending in March 2020. It is now scheduled as follows, with all times local: Dubai to Taipei: EK366, 03:40-16:15 (8h 35m block time) Taipei to Dubai: EK367, 23:35-04:15+1 (8h 40m) Click here for Dubai-Taipei flights. The timings might seem unusual, but they're perfectly normal for Emirates' Far East flights. The 03:40 departure is fed by vast amounts of arrivals, primarily from across Europe, the Middle East, and North Africa, which land around 23:00-01:00. The 04:15 arrival feeds its largest Europe, Middle East, and North Africa-bound departure bank from 07:00-09:00. When writing, it is clear that three-class equipment will be deployed on the route as first class is bookable. There will be 14 first class seats and 76 in business. But it isn't certain how many economy seats there will be, which dictates which configuration will be used. An examination of Flightradar24 data for March 2020 indicates that it used both two-class and three-class equipment. When first was offered, it tended to use 517-seat A380s, those with 427 economy seats. Assuming it'll continue to use 517-seaters, it'll replace the three-class, 354-seat 777-300ERs presently deployed. It means that each departure will have 46% more seats. The number in first will rise from 8 to 14 (+75%), business from 42 to 76 (+81%), and economy from 304 to 427 (+40%). That's a lot more seats to sell, especially in premium. Clearly, Emirates is confident. Where Taipei passengers go Analysis of Emirates' Taipei operations for 2019, the last normal year, shows that it had 388,820 roundtrip seats for sale between Dubai and Taipei, according to OAG data. (I like the '388' bit.) Booking data indicates that it carried approximately 330,000 passengers, for an average seat load factor of 85%. About 87% of passengers, a considerable proportion, transited Dubai, while 13% were point-to-point. Extremely few connected over Taipei or bridged both airports. The most popular transit markets Europe-Dubai-Taipei (~67% of connecting passengers), North Africa-Dubai-Taipei (~11%), and Middle East-Dubai-Taipei (~6%), according to booking data. Istanbul-Dubai-Taipei was number one The most popular airport-level origin and destination market was Istanbul Airport-Taipei via Dubai. Flying via Dubai adds a reasonable 14% to the non-stop distance. Cairo-Taipei was the second most popular market. The rest of the top ten, in order, were Lisbon, Istanbul Sabiha Gökçen, Barcelona, Casablanca, Vienna, Madrid, Zagreb, and Prague. Click here for Istanbul-Taipei flights. In 2019, Sabiha Gökçen, Zagreb, and Prague had both Emirates and flydubai. Now, Sabiha Gökçen and Zagreb are exclusively by increasingly important partner flydubai. [心得] 文中引述 EK台北航線的客源分析(in 2019) 平均載客率: 85% 旅客組成: 87% 轉機客 (經杜拜至第三地) 13% 兩地點對點 Europe-Dubai-Taipei :67% North Africa-Dubai-Taipei:11% Middle East-Dubai-Taipei : 6% TPE-DXB-第三地: 10大目的地 1. Istanbul 2. Cairo 3. Lisbon, 4. Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen 5. Barcelona 6. Casablanca, 7. Vienna, 8. Madrid, 9. Zagreb, 10.Prague. 本來還以為搭EK TPE-DXB 的旅客主要是去西歐國家首都或經濟主要大城, 看起來反而都是以觀光旅遊城市為主. -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 36.228.155.156 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Aviation/M.1673706126.A.B02.html
pwseki206: 不知道TK會不會也是轉機客為主要客源,感覺兩家的歐洲 01/14 22:32
pwseki206: 中轉應該不少 01/14 22:32
danic: 摩洛哥簽證不是很麻煩 也這麼多人去喔??!! 01/14 22:52
lions402: 土耳其埃及團客呀 拿了一堆機位就便宜賣 01/14 22:57
ATR72: 看來好多都是旅行團 01/14 23:01
iamkher: 匯豐好像旅行團居多 但通常要去那些點中東轉機能到的航 01/14 23:07
iamkher: 點也比較多 先排除港轉的 01/14 23:07
eugene0315: 西歐的那幾個大城市有國籍航空都有飛啊 而且就算去香 01/14 23:14
eugene0315: 港或曼谷轉也不少 不一定會執著要搭阿聯酋 01/14 23:14
wtchen: 全程不到9小時,商務艙還沒睡飽就得起床吃早餐 01/14 23:17
dr2915: 可能是西歐那些大城太多競爭,相較之下上榜的這些EK有更多 01/14 23:22
dr2915: 其他航空的優勢 01/14 23:22
dr2915: ^沒有的優勢 01/14 23:23
lions402: 開口行程EK TK優勢就跑出來了 01/14 23:26
odkmse: 這統計怎麼怪怪的,伊斯坦堡SAW也上榜? 01/14 23:46
chewie: 轉機票價比較便宜啊 商務客會盡量直飛吧 01/14 23:49
chewie: TK的歐洲航點是蠻密的 方便排不同點進出行程 01/14 23:51
GaryMatthews: 伊斯坦堡上榜兩個也太甚 土雞國是有這麼好玩? 01/14 23:57
ddddd014: 西葡占三名耶,未來有沒有機會看到直飛巴賽隆納 01/15 00:14
eugene0315: 去伊斯坦堡又不是只逛伊斯坦堡 番紅花城 卡帕多奇亞 01/15 00:37
eugene0315: 棉花堡 安塔利亞 特洛伊古城都在土耳其啊 台灣開團 01/15 00:37
eugene0315: 的土耳其旅遊團不都去這些地方 01/15 00:37
dbdudsorj: 神奇的是土航本身有飛伊斯坦堡 01/15 00:50
ptt246: 團體很愛阿聯酋 01/15 00:55
gitans: EK的時段對商務客不是很好 01/15 02:38
QUEENSUSAN: 希望伊比利半島早日有直飛航班了~很有潛力! 01/15 08:54
odkmse: 因為TK的IST進出機位少,票價貴到翻,旅行社才都搭配EK轉機 01/15 10:20
odkmse: 之前BR飛IST補足土耳其旅行團票,但77W太大隻,本來BR想搭配 01/15 10:23
odkmse: TK轉歐陸,結果TK惡搞歐陸票價,BR載不滿又遇到偽政變就停飛 01/15 10:25
yoshilin: 公司出錢一定是直飛 01/15 12:06
yoshilin: 土耳其旅行團都會再多加杜拜一日遊 01/15 12:08
chenyei: 摩洛哥進榜感覺很不可思議 01/15 12:39
mukuro: 其實很棒,中東旅遊對台灣客較有新鮮感 01/15 12:46
mukuro: 再搭配上A380這個機型,很有吸引力 01/15 12:46
doraemon129K: TK的航點數基本上遠多於EK,很多歐洲的2、3線城市 01/15 12:58
doraemon129K: 都有飛 01/15 12:58
doraemon129K: 但TK人品就… 01/15 12:58
ayutakako: 對一般民眾來說中東沒有什麼吸引力,也沒在管機型的XD 01/15 13:27
lions402: 只有便宜才是吸引力 誰管你A380還是77W 01/15 13:32
JackLee5566: 跪求直飛BCN 超好玩 01/15 13:57
dunkylu: 絕大多數民眾都是只看價格,機型真的不重要 01/15 16:06
持台灣護照進摩洛哥必須慎選航空公司, 很多人搭其他航空持簽證核准函但在機場被某些航空拒絕登機的情事時有所聞. 相較之下,搭Emirates 進摩洛哥算是還沒(or很少)聽說有被拒登機的案例,價格也還ok. 當然啦,夠力的旅行社甚至可以幫旅客協助註記 OK (to) Board. 不過,就算有 OK (to) Board, 也無法100%保證登機不被刁難. 找摩洛哥當地旅行社協助辦理落地簽並於航空公司註記 OK Board 算是比較保險的方式. https://www.backpackers.com.tw/forum/showthread.php?t=10225152 https://www.backpackers.com.tw/forum/showthread.php?t=10026316 ※ 編輯: nyrnu (36.228.137.23 臺灣), 01/15/2023 17:30:09
whocare96: Emirates以商務艙來說,380跟777差蠻多的 01/15 18:47
leofu100: 同意who大 01/15 19:05
leofu100: 777 商務艙2-3-2 ….. 01/15 19:05
leofu100: 正常都1-2-1吧…… 01/15 19:06
Andosinjo: 摩洛哥好玩啊!不過不喜歡飛A380,EK從桃園都晚上飛, 01/16 13:34
Andosinjo: 上機要好久… 01/16 13:34
kikkansya: 旅行團走EK是把搭380也拿來在行程內大書特書 01/16 16:11
lions402: 行程表當然要多塞點廢話充版面 酷航的行程也要大寫787 01/16 16:28
Jared9527: 是不是A380真的太重要了,77W商務艙完全不能比。 01/17 15:48
js52666: 行程表都會打搭乘巨無霸豪華客機前往XX 01/17 18:47
suitup: 準備被777吃死 01/17 18:52
leopika: 行程表裡面去台場看鋼彈也要大書特書成鋼彈超人騎士 01/18 14:04
A320neo: 推 分享OD 02/05 14:13