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※ 引述《LastDinosaur (LastDino)》之銘言: : https://twitter.com/fabianardaya/status/1770782890495799297?s=46&t=qwlHMsiTz Nw : xXFDPpr-g : The latest on the Shohei Ohtani-Ippei Mizuhara saga: : Ohtani is not currently facing discipline, according to an MLB official, nor i : he believed to be under active investigation by the league. : 大谷不會受到任何禁賽或聯盟警告、同時聯盟也沒有啟動調查大谷的作為 : 看起來大谷應該沒事了,水原你就好好下去吧 : ---- : Sent from BePTT on my Samsung SM-S9010 : -- 看了文章後補充一些細節 這是昨天勝利後的 There was no consideration of having Ohtani sit Thursday’s game, Dodgers manager Dave Roberts said, noting that Ohtani was sitting in a hitter’s meeting as Roberts spoke with reporters at around 3:15 p.m. local time. An abnormal day still featured a normal routine. 先講今天總教練最後沒計畫讓大谷坐板凳 受訪時大谷正在參加打者的會議 即使這一天 出了很多事情 但大谷還是按表操課 Much, of course, had changed over the last 24 hours. Ohtani had been seen on the broadcast laughing with Mizuhara during the ninth inning of Wednesday night’s season-opening win as if nothing was amiss. The scene felt normal, a celebratory moment after Ohtani’s first game with his new club after signing a 10-year, $700 million deal with the Dodgers this past winter. The image of Ohtani’s time in the major leagues, of his ascent to global stardom with the Angels and now the Dodgers, included Mizuhara as his shadow. 但過去24小時顯然發生許多事情 星期三大谷在9局時被看到跟水原有說有笑的 好像什麼 事? 都沒發生一樣 這個場景給人感覺很正常 是大谷在與道奇贏球後彼此在慶祝 水原就像大谷的影子一樣 不論是從大谷進入大聯盟還是從天使到道奇都能看到他的身影 Minutes later, Mizuhara stood in front of an unsuspecting clubhouse and addressed the news that would become public the following morning. 但過了沒多久 水原就在沒有任何人有做好準備的休息室中講述了隔天即將被公開的消息 The meeting was brief, and came together abruptly, according to multiple people in the room. They described a “weird,” “strange” scene that included Dodgers owner Mark Walter and CEO Stan Kasten. “Anything with that, the meeting,” Roberts said Thursday, “I can’t comment.” 那個會議很短且突然 根據在現場的人透露 他們用詭異 奇怪的去形容這個包含道奇老闆 Mark Walter跟CEO Stan Kasten都有出席的會議 總教練Robert表示關於任何會議的事情他都不能發表評論 Within the room, according to a team source, Mizuhara told a version of the story similar to what he would told ESPN in his initial interview. 根據球隊的消息來原透露 水原最初講的故事版本是他會在接受ESPN訪問時所陳述的版本 類似的內容 According to a spokesman for Ohtani, the player’s involvement initially was described as aiding Mizuhara. Ohtani transferred funds to cover Mizuhara’s gambling debts of roughly $4.5 million. The money did not go directly to Mizuhara because Ohtani didn’t trust his interpreter to not “gamble it away. ” Before Mizuhara’s interview with ESPN was published, however, the spokesman disavowed Mizuhara’s account and said Ohtani’s lawyers would issue a statement. 根據大谷的發言人表示,最初大谷被描寫為是幫助水原 大谷轉帳幫他還款 因為大谷不 信任水原而沒有把錢給他,但在ESPN的訪問出來前這就被大谷的發言人否認,並且表示 大谷的律師會處理來發表聲明 Mizuhara said on Wednesday that Ohtani had no knowledge of his gambling activity, debts or attempts to pay them. 而水原在今天說大谷對於他賭博的行為 債務 或企圖幫他還清債務的事情一無所知 By the time media were allowed into the home clubhouse at Gocheok Skydome after the meeting, Mizuhara had ducked into the hallway, only emerging toward the end of Ohtani’s scrum with reporters to quickly interpret three English questions. By morning, with initial reports released by the Los Angeles Times and ESPN well-circulated, the Dodgers confirmed Mizuhara — who had been Ohtani’s primary interpreter since arriving in Major League Baseball and whose relationship with Ohtani even predated that — had been fired. Yet confusion persisted among those within the organization, especially after Ohtani’s representatives disavowed many of Mizuhara’s claims in his interview with ESPN. 當天也是在這個會議後媒體才被允許進入休息室進行訪問的,然後水原已經跑去走郎躲 起來了了,直到訪問快結束時才進來幫忙大谷翻譯3個英文問題 然後就是清晨接著消息出來後水原被解雇的消息 也說了即使大谷方反擊了水原的說法, 但情況仍然是有點混亂的 Speaking in front of a room of media members packed in to ask about a story sure to draw global headlines, Roberts declined to comment on the nature of the accusations and the decision-making process and timing behind Mizuhara’s firing. Kasten declined to comment before Thursday’s game. So too did president of baseball operations Andrew Friedman. 接下來當媒體想進來問問題的時候 不管Roberts,Kasten,Frideman都拒絕對水原的問題 做出相關評論 The next steps remain murky. According to a league source, MLB hasn’t been contacted by prosecutors. The MLBPA declined comment, and Ohtani’s agent, Nez Balelo, declined multiple requests for comment after being present at Gocheok Sky Dome much of the week. 下一步還不清楚會怎樣 但根據聯盟消息 MLB還沒收到檢察官的聯絡,球員工會拒絕評論 大谷的經紀人Nez Balelo即使本周多次出現在巨蛋 但也拒絕評論 所以時間軸應該是 昨天比賽打完後開會-大谷跟道奇內部有些人先知道出事了-ESPN跟水原的訪問準備出來- 但出來前大谷方發言人就先否認-事情爆出來&律師指控水原-然後最後到現在的情況 但內文也有提大谷目前不會有紀律相關的處分 目前也相信聯盟並不會對大谷有任何積極 的調查行為 檢察官目前也沒聯絡 至少暫時沒大谷的事情了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 210.59.165.137 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Baseball/M.1711027954.A.55C.html ※ 編輯: dragon803 (210.59.165.137 臺灣), 03/21/2024 21:34:36
zouelephant: 靜待美國司法調查 03/21 21:33
johnwu: 查了會動搖MLB本嗎 03/21 21:34
abc12812: 大鼓大谷惺惺相惜 不必去查 03/21 21:35
octopus4406: 不管啦 撕髮不公 動搖國本03/21 21:36
MTBF: 動搖谷本03/21 21:36
bigguy: 谷黑就不要嫉妒大谷不被查了啦 03/21 21:36
lb01833364: 不必去查 你們難道想看大谷沒球打?03/21 21:36
taeyeon09: 不必去查 動搖國本03/21 21:36
bigguy: 不被查也是他本事 你就抵制他不看他比賽啊03/21 21:37
taeyeon09: 當然看啊 爽 只是沒想到金孫完全沒事哈哈03/21 21:38
TokyoHard: 就搓好了吧03/21 21:38
orze04: 大谷律師的聲明(翻譯個人行為)有先跟球團溝通過嗎03/21 21:39
wenhh88: 全聯盟救一人也沒人有意見吧 03/21 21:39
taeyeon09: 這樣看來躲完風頭 乾脆讓一平回來算了 反正也沒有要罰 03/21 21:40
merkx051: 不必去查原來是真的03/21 21:40
kirimaru73: 根據在場的人透露 這種內容你也不知道作文成份有多少 03/21 21:41
喔 是球隊的消息來源透露 打太快看錯了 改一下 反正就閉門會議 沒細節披露 只知道開了個有點怪的會議
merkx051: 公平正義是站在有權有勢的人這裡的 03/21 21:41
alger4713: 這樣一平要蹲幾年03/21 21:41
A00610lol: 一平你就吞了吧 03/21 21:42
icou: 就是 之後再說的意思... 03/21 21:43
youare: 當個翻譯當到要被抓去關 可惜了大奶老婆 03/21 21:44
jason0312: 主子涉嫌賭博,聯盟不敢查,一平你就吞了吧Qq03/21 21:44
草 你刷了一整個晚上了居然還沒停嗎
HanKWanG1994: 吞? 啊就他做的事不吞誰吞03/21 21:44
a8856554: 不必去查,查就是給境外勢力遞刀子03/21 21:44
youare: 盜領帳戶在美國要關多久 有矽谷律師可以開示一下嗎?03/21 21:45
Federerrrr: 谷黑馬上就來了 嘻嘻03/21 21:45
GyroZeppeli: 水原你到底有幾種說法 ==03/21 21:45
Hiabtd: 好奇為啥水原要跑去接受媒體採訪然後昭告天下自己有犯罪03/21 21:45
c8121175: 水原羅生門 03/21 21:45
water62036: 太鼓那個是有明確證據的放在一起某人還真好意思 03/21 21:46
water62036: 說自己是律師?03/21 21:46
stilu: 感覺道奇球團對第一個說法也沒意見?那律師的聲明是? 03/21 21:46
※ 編輯: dragon803 (210.59.165.137 臺灣), 03/21/2024 21:48:36
phix: 後面就律師改的吧 前面是大谷跟水原的說法03/21 21:48
dragonash13: 就FBI在抄非法簽賭網站時發現的啊03/21 21:48
newsnew: 比較有趣的是在那之前水原就先接受ESPN訪問03/21 21:48
befly10015: 之前說水原接受ESPN訪問是大谷方安排的 但之後又否認 03/21 21:49
befly10015: 一整個莫名其妙03/21 21:49
alonzohorse: 不查很正常吧...現在就是金孫,除非有直接證據曝光 03/21 21:49
lovebulls: 一平欠那麼多錢 如果只要蹲幾年就好根本賺翻吧 03/21 21:49
may2012xp: 大谷目前狀況就是沒賭也沒指示操盤 是要扛啥 03/21 21:52
losel: 連老闆跟CEO都有出席 搞這麼大?03/21 21:53
chopinlee: 現在你們都在韓國當然不會有任何動作啊,等回來就...03/21 21:53
maxLOVEmimi: 所以是誰爆料這件事情的 是水原自己主動承認還是被03/21 21:54
maxLOVEmimi: 抓到(?03/21 21:54
jerryngu: FBI 查組頭的時候發現有來自大谷帳戶的轉帳,ESPN收到03/21 21:56
jerryngu: 消息來問,目前FBI沒有針對水原或大谷的調查,他們只是03/21 21:56
jerryngu: 其他案子的關係人士03/21 21:56
polanco: 所以那個內部會議真的很奇妙03/21 22:00
amos30627: 現在看就是球團方完全接手了03/21 22:03
bj451123: 有說有笑是在慶祝贏球的moment…..怎麼會慶祝簽約….笑 03/21 22:03
bj451123: 死 03/21 22:03
※ 編輯: dragon803 (27.51.81.250 臺灣), 03/21/2024 22:05:42
h75311418: 水遠說法太多已經不知道哪個是真的 03/21 22:06
sixsix666: FBI還沒介入吧? 03/21 22:08
windsp0419: 完蛋了 看來要跟西門刷羊一樣殘 03/21 22:13
smch: 應該是時差、律師團隊沒來 導致公關球隊律師沒同步對好口供 03/22 00:22
grandwar: 通靈一下:大谷不懂英文所以從頭到尾真的不知情、劇本 03/22 07:36
grandwar: 是高層跟水原搓好的、賭博這件事撲溯謎離應該不是單一 03/22 07:36
grandwar: 事件,無論如何FBI查到的是大谷的名字,有可能水原揹鍋 03/22 07:36
grandwar: 也有可能水原真的在大谷不知情下偷錢去賭博或是兩種可 03/22 07:36
grandwar: 能同時存在。 03/22 07:36
grandwar: 不排除這種情況:大谷真的不知道加州賭運彩違法,然後 03/22 07:40
grandwar: 就被水原圈進去玩然後現在出大包了,這種情況只能說大 03/22 07:40
grandwar: 谷經紀公司爛得跟紙糊一樣 03/22 07:40
toeic900: FBI都還沒加入戰局 03/22 08:20