[新聞] ESPN-Scott Harris 對 Skubal 交易的回覆

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Tigers president Scott Harris defends return in Skubal trade

老虎隊總裁 Scott Harris 為 Skubal 交易中的回報進行辯護。

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Detroit Tigers president of baseball operations Scott Harris blamed himself
for putting the team in a position to trade generational ace Tarik Skubal but
lauded the prospects he received from the Los Angeles Dodgers in exchange.

底特律老虎隊棒球營運總裁（president of baseball operations）Scott Harris 自責
讓球隊陷入不得不交易世代級王牌 Tarik Skubal 的境地，但他同時也大力讚揚了從洛杉
磯道奇隊換回的新秀籌碼。


Harris also took exception to the notion that he should've waited until
closer to the trade deadline to maximize Skubal's return.

Harris 也對「應該等到更接近交易大限時才出手，以將 Skubal 的交易回報最大化」這
種觀點表達了異議。


"We came into this very well prepared," Harris said in a videoconference
shortly after Monday's deadline. "We came into this with a firm idea of the
type of deal that we wanted to ultimately land. And we had a deep
understanding of what every organization had to offer.

「我們在進入這次談判時做足了準備，」Harris 在週一交易大限結束後不久的視訊會議
中表示。「我們懷著非常明確的想法，清楚我們最終想要達成怎樣的交易。我們也對每個
球團所能提供的籌碼有著深入的了解。」


"I think there is a unique dynamic with a player like Tarik Skubal. Markets
at the deadline for the top players are just different than the rest of the
market. So, I understand the intuition that, 'Hey, you're supposed to wait
until the very last second on a deal and then pull a trigger at the very last
second to maximize a return.' That's not how markets for the top players
work."

「我認為像 Tarik Skubal 這樣的球員有著獨特的市場動態。交易大限前頂級球員的市場
機制，與其他普通市場是完全不同的。所以，我理解那種直覺式的想法，覺得『嘿，你應
該等到最後一秒才做決定，在最後一刻扣下扳機才能拿到最大回報』。但頂級球員的市場
根本不是這樣運作的。」


Harris praised outfield prospect Zyhir Hope for his combination of power and
speed, his knack for putting together big league at-bats and his overall
bat-to-ball skills. Harris identified River Ryan as a potential
front-of-the-rotation starter, adding that he expects Ryan to join the major
league roster in September. And he described Brady Smith as a projectable
starter with an elite changeup.

Harris 稱讚了外野新秀 Zyhir Hope 的力量與速度結合能力、展現大聯盟等級打席的訣
竅，以及整體優異的擊球技巧（bat-to-ball skills）。Harris 將 River Ryan 視為潛
在的前段先發投手（front-of-the-rotation starter），並補充預計 Ryan 將會在九月
進入大聯盟名單。他同時將 Brady Smith 描述為一位未來發展可期的先發投手，並擁有
一顆頂級的變速球。


But the Dodgers have as many as four outfield prospects graded higher in
their system than Hope, and the Tampa Bay Rays and the Milwaukee Brewers, who
were both deep in conversations for Skubal, possess some of the industry's
deepest minor league systems. It prompted executives and scouts throughout
the industry to wonder why Skubal, the reigning back-to-back American League
Cy Young Award winner, didn't yield a bigger package -- or, at least, why
this was the package that got the deal done a day and a half before the
deadline.

然而，道奇隊系統中有多達四名外野新秀的評級高於 Hope，而同樣深入參與 Skubal 談判
的坦帕灣光芒隊和密爾瓦基釀酒人隊，則擁有業界最深厚的農場系統之一。這引發了整個
業界的高階主管和球探的質疑：為什麼剛完成美聯賽揚獎二連霸的 Skubal 沒有換回更大
的包裹──或者至少，為什麼會在交易大限前一天半，就拿這個包裹敲定交易？


"There wasn't any need to stretch it any further," Harris said. "The
organizations that were involved were extremely aggressive, and they put in
what I believe to be their max offers. And then they added to those offers
also and got to the point of almost audible pain when they actually produced
their best bold offers, and they gave it to us and we pulled the trigger. The
notion that we should've waited 24 or 48 hours later and extracted more value
-- that's garbage. That's not how these negotiations work."

「根本沒有必要再拖下去了，」Harris 說。「參與其中的球團都展現了極強的侵略性，
而且他們都出了我認為的極限報價。他們甚至在這些報價之上繼續加碼，到了當他們給出
最敢給的終極報價時，幾乎都能聽到他們肉痛的叫聲，他們交給我們後，我們就扣下了扳
機。那種認為我們應該多等 24 或 48 小時來榨取更多價值的想法──簡直是胡扯。談判
根本不是這樣運作的。」


The Tigers approached this season with expectations of winning the AL
Central, but their roster was ravaged by injury early, prompting a 6-22
record in May that had them tied for the worst mark in the major leagues. The
Tigers then won 28 of their next 46 games. But their momentum ran out.

老虎隊本賽季原本帶著贏得美聯中區冠軍的期望開局，但他們的陣容在早期飽受傷病摧殘
，導致五月份僅打出 6 勝 22 敗的戰績，一度並列大聯盟最差。隨後老虎隊在接下來的
46 場比賽中贏了 28 場，但他們的氣勢最終還是耗盡了。


They lost back-to-back games to the last-place Kansas City Royals on July 25
and 26 then dropped two of three to the Baltimore Orioles thereafter. It was
afterward that Harris decided he would trade away veteran players, most
notably Skubal.

他們在 7 月 25 日與 26 日接連輸給墊底的堪薩斯市皇家隊，隨後又在對陣巴爾的摩金
鶯隊的三連戰中輸掉兩場。正是在這之後，Harris 決定將資深球員交易出去，其中最受
注目的莫過於 Skubal。


Casey Mize, another starting pitcher approaching free agency, also left,
going to the San Diego Padres in exchange for 2024 first-round pick Kash
Mayfield.

另一位即將成為自由球員的先發投手 Casey Mize 也離開了，他被交易至聖地牙哥教士隊
，換來 2024 年首輪指名新秀 Kash Mayfield。


Harris said that while he hates dealing away veteran players who can help the
team win, it would've been "irresponsible" not to trade Skubal and Mize given
their markets. Harris also took responsibility for the Tigers being in
position to trade them in the first place.

Harris 表示，雖然他討厭賣掉能幫助球隊贏球的資深球員，但考慮到他們在市場上的價
值，如果不交易 Skubal 和 Mize 將是「不負責任的」。Harris 也承擔了讓老虎隊一開
始陷入不得不賣人境地的責任。


"I wanted to give this team every opportunity to make a really compelling
case that we shouldn't do this," he said. "We just didn't make that case.
It's not on the players. It's not on the coaches. It's on me."

「我原本想給這支球隊每一個機會，去拿出強有力的理由來證明我們不該這麼做，」他說
。「我們只是沒能拿出那個理由。這不是球員的錯，也不是教練的錯，責任在我。」


A late bloomer who lasted until the ninth round of the 2018 draft, Skubal
emerged as one of the game's most talented pitchers in 2022 and 2023, and he
took it to another level thereafter. From 2024 to 2025, Skubal went 31-10
with a 2.30 ERA and a whopping 469 strikeouts in 387⅓ innings. His 12.6
FanGraphs wins above replacement led all major league pitchers.

作為一名直到 2018 年選秀第九輪才被選中的大器晚成型球員，Skubal 在 2022 年和
2023 年展露頭角，成為聯盟中最具天賦的投手之一，隨後更是將表現提升到了另一個層
次。從 2024 年到 2025 年，Skubal 投出 31 勝 10 敗、防禦率 2.30 的佳績，並在
387又3分之1 局中狂飆 469 次三振。他在 FanGraphs 上的勝場貢獻值（wins above
replacement, WAR）高達 12.6，高居全大聯盟投手之冠。


In 16 starts this year, Skubal boasts a 2.79 ERA while striking out 116
batters and issuing 14 walks in 96⅔ innings. The only thing that could stop
him were bone chips that began to irritate his left elbow in late April.
Skubal underwent a less-invasive, revolutionary NanoScope procedure and
returned in about six weeks. His ERA in July was 2.03.

今年在 16 場先發中，Skubal 在 96又3分之2 局中送出 116 次三振與 14 次保送，擁有
一張 2.79 的優異防禦率。唯一能阻擋他的，是四月下旬開始刺激他左肘的骨刺（bone
chips）。Skubal 接受了侵入性較小且革命性的 NanoScope 關節鏡微創手術，並在大約六
週後復出。他在七月的防禦率高達 2.03。


In three months, Skubal, represented by the industry's most powerful agent in
Scott Boras, will enter free agency with the hope of signing the largest
contract ever rewarded to a starting pitcher. Harris said the Tigers
approached him about an extension at one point -- he would not specify when
-- and it was made clear to him that Skubal wanted to be a free agent.

在三個月後，由業界最有權勢的經紀人 Scott Boras 代表的 Skubal 將進入自由球員市
場，有望簽下先發投手歷史上金額最大的合約。Harris 表示老虎隊曾一度向他提出延長
合約的討論──他未透漏具體時間──而對方向他明確表示 Skubal 希望進入自由市場。


"Which is totally his right," Harris said of Skubal, "and nobody should be
upset about that. He has put himself in a position to be able to explore a
market, and he decided that he wanted to do that and should not be criticized
for it."

「這完全是他的權利，」Harris 在談到 Skubal 時表示，「沒有人應該為此感到不適。
他憑自己的實力站到了能夠探索自由市場的位置，他決定要這麼做，不應該為此受到批評
。」


Harris was adamant that the Tigers are not waiving the white flag on this
season. His team (54-58) is just 2½ games out of a playoff spot, albeit with
five teams to jump, and recently called up top prospect Max Clark to play
center field. Harris opted against trading second baseman Gleyber Torres and
closer Kenley Jansen, both pending free agents, because, he said, the returns
did not justify losing their impacts for the rest of this season.

Harris 堅稱老虎隊並未對本賽季舉白旗投降。他的球隊（54 勝 58 敗）距離季後賽席次
僅落後 2.5 場勝差，儘管前面還有五支球隊需要超越，而且他們最近剛將頂級新秀 Max
Clark 升上大聯盟擔任中外野手。Harris 選擇不交易二壘手 Gleyber Torres 與終結者
Kenley Jansen（兩人皆為合約即將到期的自由球員），因為他表示，換回的回報不足以抵
銷失去他們在剩餘賽季所帶來的影響力。


But in the end, Harris believes the return on Skubal was too good to pass up.

但歸根結底，Harris 認為交易 Skubal 所換得的回報實在太好，令人無法拒絕。


For validation, he pointed to Chicago Cubs center fielder Pete Crow-Armstrong
and Philadelphia Phillies ace Zack Wheeler, both of whom were acquired for
star players who were approaching free agency.

為了證明這一點，他舉了芝加哥小熊隊中外野手 Pete Crow-Armstrong 與費城人隊王牌
投手 Zack Wheeler 為例，這兩位球員當初都是用合約即將到期的明星球員交易換來的。


"There's a ton of impact to be had at these deals," Harris said, "and there's
a real asymmetry between the buy side and the sell side, which contributes to
this notion where when you're put in a position where you have to make these
tough decisions, it would be irresponsible to not make those decisions.

「這類交易中蘊含著巨大的影響力，」Harris 表示，「而且買方與賣方之間存在著嚴重
的資訊與需求不對稱，這促成了一種觀念：當你處於必須做出這些艱難決策的位置時，不
做這些決定將是不負責的行為。」


"I'm not saying that the players that we got are going to be PCA or Zack
Wheeler, but when you have an opportunity to add impact talent and guys that
have ceilings as high as the guys that we have, they have a real chance to
impact the organization."

「我並不是說我們換來的球員一定會成為下一個 PCA 或 Zack Wheeler，但當你有機會引
進具備即戰力影響力且天賦天花板像我們換到的這幾位一樣高的球員時，他們真的有機會
對整個球團組織產生深遠的影響。」


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推 lowl99: 一直在想輪子是跟誰換，原來是巨人拿他去換Beltran。
→ lowl99: PCA就不用講，小熊賺爆
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2011 巨人大都會
大都會獲得 Zack Wheeler
巨人收到 外野手/DH Carlos Beltrán 和現金

2021 大都會小熊
小熊獲得  Pete Crow-Armstrong
大都會收到 內野手 Javier Báez 和投手 Trevor Williams
※ 編輯: Yjizz (49.217.49.194 臺灣), 08/05/2026 00:05:02
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