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1 全面使用:標準一致 2挑戰制度:減少誤判 3完全不用:醍醐味爽 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 59.127.209.22 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/BaseballXXXX/M.1773651312.A.F01.html ※ 編輯: youx16147 (59.127.209.22 臺灣), 03/16/2026 16:56:40
b99202071: 1 03/16 16:56
ponsquare: 挑戰吧 03/16 16:56
kobe9527: 2 03/16 16:56
allkobe: 2 03/16 16:57
DerekHolland: 2 03/16 16:57
trnet433: 2 03/16 16:57
yankbarca: 2 03/16 16:58
SABA0: 2 03/16 16:58
kagimoro1202: 2 03/16 16:58
yyyboy: 2 03/16 16:58
Blackie9211: 2 03/16 16:59
cplusplus426: 1 03/16 16:59
sana113821: 2 03/16 16:59
TPElin00: 1 03/16 17:00
william12tw: 2 03/16 17:00
as21838324: 2 03/16 17:00
henryhao: 2 03/16 17:00
vvvv0o0vvvv: 2 03/16 17:00
coldstan123: 2 03/16 17:00
Sunpayus: 1 你終究是要全用的 乾脆一步到位 03/16 17:01
same60710: 2 03/16 17:01
zxc89003: 1 03/16 17:01
MarchelKaton: 2 03/16 17:01
LIONDODO: 2 03/16 17:01
Lewandowski9: 2 03/16 17:02
dumanis: 1 03/16 17:02
sue98635241: 2 03/16 17:03
alenn: 2 03/16 17:03
larry227079: 2 03/16 17:04
Augustus5: 2 03/16 17:04
a25018250: 1 03/16 17:05
ntulion: 1 03/16 17:05
neil112379: 2 03/16 17:05
Castle88654: 2 03/16 17:06
jamessytba: 2 03/16 17:06
GhostShadow: 2 跟原本的挑戰一樣,重點是避免極端狀況 03/16 17:06
laangels27: 2 03/16 17:06
carlchang092: 1 兩套標準沒有意義 03/16 17:06
jimqax: 2 03/16 17:07
kimi7812: 2 如果全面 那主審就要失業了XD 03/16 17:07
nigatsuki: 2 03/16 17:08
davidex: 2 03/16 17:08
bluegates: 2 03/16 17:08
nolimitpqq: 2 03/16 17:08
OzzieAlbies: 1 不影響比賽時長的話 03/16 17:08
carlchang092: 要講幾次全ABS還是要有主審存在 03/16 17:08
carlchang092: 觸身球 上壘 投手犯規 這些全部都要裁判判決 03/16 17:08
lml99: 1要用就全用,這個不像挑戰要看半天 03/16 17:09
Ke1even: 1 03/16 17:09
YummyCurry: 1 03/16 17:09
GyroZeppeli: 短時間還是2 不然那些捕手的CF技能包就廢了 03/16 17:09
afa76: 2 03/16 17:09
carlchang092: 捕手還是要牽制跟配球也不會完全失業啊 03/16 17:10
waylan05: 2 03/16 17:10
h25582528: 2 03/16 17:10
antidote: 2 03/16 17:10
tommyshu: 2 03/16 17:10
windletterz: 2 03/16 17:10
jack22661: 2 03/16 17:11
alonzohorse: 1 03/16 17:12
mittymouse: 2 03/16 17:12
PaiChiou: 1 03/16 17:12
ZaneTrout: 2 03/16 17:12
Yjizz: 1 但是2可以看到一些表情包 03/16 17:12
jordan1227: 2 03/16 17:12
Tradeoff: 2 03/16 17:12
kano2525: 短期內2,最終目標是1 03/16 17:13
carbee: 222222222 03/16 17:13
Tr3vyy: 1 03/16 17:13
lsj049: 2 03/16 17:13
jclee0000: 2 03/16 17:14
aaaaaaron: 2 03/16 17:14
tommyshu: 除非這個系統普及到連基層都有 不然總不能讓職業裁判完 03/16 17:14
tommyshu: 全脫離這項能力吧 短期2長期1 03/16 17:14
ShannonBrown: 2 03/16 17:14
kano2525: ABS不會讓裁判失業,就算全面實施ABS,還是有很多工作要 03/16 17:14
kano2525: 由裁判來做 03/16 17:14
GyroZeppeli: 講白你還是要跟著MLB走 美國現階段就是2啊 03/16 17:15
okamifang: 當然是1,如果2是可以增加趣味性但是越來越不喜歡看比 03/16 17:15
okamifang: 賽拖時間挑戰,如果可以球員開扁裁判就選3 03/16 17:15
Willyao: 2 03/16 17:15
YuChien528: 2 03/16 17:15
han0719: 2 03/16 17:16
www115ui8: 2 03/16 17:16
paul2049: 2 03/16 17:16
kevinduh4: 2 03/16 17:16
marx93521: 2 03/16 17:16
Jerry7766: 2 03/16 17:17
highwayshih: 2 03/16 17:17
Dylenny: 1 03/16 17:17
JonasFolger: 2 03/16 17:18
zee0012002: 2 03/16 17:18
d06: 先2 再1 03/16 17:18
erodora: 1 03/16 17:18
xephon: 2 先推行幾年,再討論 1 03/16 17:18
beerhsieh: 1 03/16 17:19
ray0305: 2 03/16 17:19
kankawayuu: 2 03/16 17:19
kigiron: 2 03/16 17:20
jjyy6666: 1 03/16 17:20
shifa: 我是大檸檬球員的話 選2 03/16 17:20
shifa: 但我不是 所以選1 幹嘛跟瞎眼老鼠在那邊瞎攪和 03/16 17:20
kevin1018: 1 03/16 17:20
zongcong: 2 03/16 17:20
yamai7777: 2 03/16 17:21
Willdododo: 2 03/16 17:21
sencho: 2 挑戰用 03/16 17:21
octopus4406: 2 03/16 17:22
zore14563: 2 03/16 17:22
Lewandowski9: ABS挑戰挺快的啊 不會耗多久 03/16 17:22
YuaTamiya: 2 03/16 17:23
norefish: 2 03/16 17:25
forward1994: 2 03/16 17:25
DoncicInPTT: 2 但未來走向1不反對 03/16 17:25
kase09521: 1但可以AI校正主審風格?差異化有一致性也有 03/16 17:25
rong1994: 2 03/16 17:25
r252525r: 2 03/16 17:26
chang0719: 2 03/16 17:26
leftavoid: 1 03/16 17:26
LeftCorner: 2 03/16 17:26
sakamichi46: 2 03/16 17:27
s83106: 先2再1 03/16 17:27
asd1122888: 2 03/16 17:27
ashitaark777: 2是一定要先要 1可以慢慢來 03/16 17:28
w9070030: 2 03/16 17:28
fash5896: 1 03/16 17:28
teddywithyou: 2 03/16 17:29
suwesley: 2 03/16 17:29
YMSolJack: 2 03/16 17:29
YukiApple: 2 03/16 17:30
a86710985: 先2再1 不懂不支持的理由到底是什麼 03/16 17:30
BrothersWin: 2 03/16 17:31
liongood93: 2 03/16 17:31
KSHScliu: 2 03/16 17:31
r781207: 2 03/16 17:31
daniel1344: ABS挑戰很快阿 有沒有進好球帶這麼明確 03/16 17:32
sacredshino: 2 03/16 17:32
stanwilson: 2 03/16 17:33
lisamayday: 2 03/16 17:33
daniel1344: 先2減少裁判在關鍵時刻的影響力 03/16 17:33
jsai: 2 03/16 17:33
a2156700: 1.5吧 覺得挑戰次數可以再多一些 03/16 17:34
EZ78: 2 03/16 17:34
EZ78: 挑戰次數感覺可以往上加 03/16 17:34
chh25597413: 1 花一堆錢買設備沒道理不用 03/16 17:35
Achu04122: 2 03/16 17:35
NolanGorman: 2 03/16 17:36
Tommy8888: 1 03/16 17:36
thb96300: 2 03/16 17:36
karta3127117: 2 03/16 17:36
dramy8148: 2 03/16 17:36
long0601: 1 03/16 17:38
ProducerChen: 2 03/16 17:39
setuping: 2 03/16 17:39
a126451026: 2 03/16 17:40
willy0617: 2 03/16 17:41
DameTime777: 2 03/16 17:41
kafing86: 2 03/16 17:41
zxcv82214: 2 03/16 17:41
a126451026: 覺得可以輔助為主,挑戰次數以每局幾球為限 03/16 17:41
iamalexnotjo: 2 03/16 17:42
qq23: 2 03/16 17:42
yhyang1991: 2 03/16 17:42
ganshins: 2 03/16 17:42
peko666: 2 03/16 17:42
c140265: 2 03/16 17:43
tuxie: 2 用挑戰的比較有節目效果 03/16 17:44
sandemo: 這樣富邦可能會得冠軍 03/16 17:44
konow915: 2 03/16 17:44
tyrone0923: 2 03/16 17:45
www30686564: 2 03/16 17:45
r31251z: 1 03/16 17:47
mibbl0: 2 03/16 17:47
temsroluan: 2 03/16 17:47
andywang3168: 2 03/16 17:47
aboutglenn: 1 03/16 17:48
CCY2000: 1 03/16 17:48
roberttony: 1 03/16 17:49
joe51408: 2 03/16 17:50
XYZP: 2 03/16 17:50
polanco: 2 03/16 17:51
aky46852: 2 03/16 17:51
Ayanami5566: 3 03/16 17:52
e12955711: 2 03/16 17:53
yuuyuuhuu: 2 03/16 17:53
bohome: 2 03/16 17:54
Godshou508: 2 03/16 17:54
arrowsean: 1 03/16 17:54
pyand0721: 2 03/16 17:54
Eyrie: 2 03/16 17:58
JWalk77: 2 03/16 17:58
osbia9621: 2 03/16 17:58
susumehamu: 3 03/16 17:58
GyroZeppeli: 真要說觸身球上壘投手犯規 其實也早就能用科技解決 03/16 17:59
kshank06: 2 03/16 17:59
JEFFTAY: 2 03/16 18:00
hardy8110: 2 03/16 18:01
GDPG: 1 03/16 18:01
GyroZeppeli: 現在棒球主審還在就是為了醍醐味 人眼早贏不了機器 03/16 18:02
karta2133295: 以台灣裁判缺人的情況 1會好一點 2我也行 03/16 18:03
idtvgame: 2 主要是那種很扯的起碼有機會凹 03/16 18:04
Totoro0802: 2 03/16 18:04
yunahusband: 2 03/16 18:05
shifa: 其實 挑戰 跟 ABS 是兩件事 不過混在一起處理也不錯啦 03/16 18:07
MONKEYGO: 2 03/16 18:07
jynut: 1 03/16 18:08
tpmstr111: 2 03/16 18:08
CusRise: 2 03/16 18:12
AresPeng: 2 外角變化球是可以投出削到好球帶 但絕對打不到的球 03/16 18:14
AresPeng: 現在的ABS還有進步空間 未來應該要加入AI判定 03/16 18:14
liweihau: 2 03/16 18:15
AhCheng: 2 03/16 18:16
Johgnsgod: 2 03/16 18:19
nice022228: 2 03/16 18:21
adngg579: 1 03/16 18:21
crey722: 2 03/16 18:21
hancao0816: 1 03/16 18:21
cobrasakira: 2 03/16 18:22
kenigo: 2 03/16 18:22
idiotay: 1 03/16 18:23
t93149: 2 03/16 18:23
shifa: 理論上你要用機器判讀可以適當修整好球帶定義 03/16 18:24
shifa: 過去好球帶削到皮甚至球上的繩子算好球 那是古早時代沒輔助 03/16 18:24
shifa: 機制方便主審使用&幫主審判決背書的方便定義 03/16 18:25
shifa: 現在有機器精準判決 你可以設定球心要在好球帶內 或是 03/16 18:25
shifa: 球體面積超過25%在好球帶內才能算好球 03/16 18:26
shifa: 說25%那個是沾到角落時的最低面積 沒沾到角落要50% 03/16 18:28
shifa: 諸如此類 不是說過去100年用的定義就只能早晚拿出來拜不能 03/16 18:28
shifa: 改掉一字一句耶 03/16 18:28
lawenwen: 2 03/16 18:30
James921124: 2 03/16 18:30
tsaodin0220: 2 03/16 18:33
nadleeh: 1 03/16 18:33
evil4422: 2 03/16 18:33
Kelsier27: 2 03/16 18:34
hengfreecss: 2列入裁判考核 03/16 18:34
ricky9696: 2 03/16 18:34
mork8850: 22222222222222222 03/16 18:36
twitch5566: 2 03/16 18:39
leo828260: 2 03/16 18:43
davin1994: 1 03/16 18:48
SorrowWind: 2 03/16 18:49
PoYufish: 2 03/16 18:49
harry0073: 1 03/16 18:49
xlargebing: 1 03/16 18:52
rainmaker4me: 2 03/16 18:54
gasol0314: 2 03/16 19:03
NXT0614: 2 03/16 19:03
nobeldd: 2 每隊10次 不是失敗制 03/16 19:03
kobe1009: 1 03/16 19:09
bsKershaw828: 2 03/16 19:10
Yohan961205: 2 03/16 19:15
miuky: 2 03/16 19:23
Silentrain22: 2 03/16 19:23
Lucifer10896: 1 03/16 19:23
angel902037: 1+2 03/16 19:24
Ming14: 1 03/16 19:27
FK84288: 2 03/16 19:27
yuchiwang: 2 03/16 19:29
tsai16: 2 03/16 19:32
AccLaborGo: 3 03/16 19:39
AccLaborGo: 奇怪,怎麼只有我選3 03/16 19:44
ppacers: 1 03/16 19:53
cyjerk: 1 03/16 20:00
keltt: 1 03/16 20:06
ThomasWei919: 3啦 03/16 20:15
EvenYvonne: 2 03/16 20:15
ohnacl: 2當試用期,未來一定是1 03/16 20:18
Nobita: 技術到位就是1 有明顯缺漏就是2 03/16 20:22
sdolphinyo: 2 03/16 20:26
freegreg: 1 03/16 20:32
D1: 先2再1 03/16 20:43
takeda0727: 1 03/16 21:02
bha1106: 2 03/16 21:02
f01237542: 2 03/16 21:04
ss77995ss: 2 03/16 21:09
wood678: 2 03/16 21:21
TiauEX: 2 03/16 21:33
RoundTable: 2 03/16 21:59
chunshuo: 1 但需要主審表演好壞球 03/16 22:03
saffron27: 2 03/16 22:22
KURO1214: 1 03/16 22:27
ASMMILK: 2 03/16 23:05
lightjayjw: 2 03/16 23:11
qoo2002s: 2 03/16 23:17
jdzjhcs: 2 03/16 23:39
GTA5566: 1 03/16 23:59
Kevin29: 2 03/17 00:29
f40075566: 2 03/17 00:30
betterbutter: 2 03/17 01:33
leokind: 2 03/17 06:27
sediments: 1 03/17 08:37
p1ter58588: 2 03/17 09:10
Darcrv97531: 2 03/17 11:10
ycwolf: 2 03/17 12:11
BlackQ840910: 2 03/17 14:08