[情報] Braves traded Gosselin for 2 Pitchers

[luguei (Steven Weinberg fan)]

(更新: 附上相關推特文於後) (再更新: Braxton Davidson 發推歡迎前隊友)

#VoteBraves @Braves

Braves acquire RHP Bronson Arroyo and minor league RHP Touki Toussaint from
Diamondbacks in exchange for infielder Phil Gosselin.

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#VoteBraves @Braves

Toussaint, who turned 19 today, is 2-2 with a 3.69 ERA in 7 games for Kane
County (A). He was the D'Backs no. 5 prospect (Baseball America)

ps. 2014 1st round pick of DBacks, No.16 overall
    季前 BA No.71 prospect

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#VoteBraves @Braves

Arroyo, on the 60-Day DL as he recovers from “Tommy John” surgery
last July 15, went 7-4 w/ a 4.08 ERA (39 ER/86.0 IP) in 14 starts in 2014

ps. Expected to be back mid-August.
    可以先發可以中繼, 到時候再決定
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  這樁交易是蛇蛇的 salary dump,
  勇士這邊主要是負責吃掉 Arroyo 今年剩下薪水和明年的 buyout,
  扣掉 Gosselin 今年剩下薪水的話大概是 9.75 mil (~ 10 mil)

  可是重點是
  勇士拿到 Toussaint!
  2014 選秀時勇士對他評價十分高.
  高層認為負責吃薪水和出 Gosselin,
  就可以拿到一直讓他們流口水的 pitching prospect, 相當值得.

  個人觀點: 不是 John Hart 太強就是 DBacks GM Dave Stewart 不知道在想什麼

  補充: 花 10 mil 買一個 19 歲, 高天花板,
        stuff 被認為可能是去年選秀中最好,
        已經在 Low-A 開始職業生涯的 pitching prospect 貴不貴?

        有些推特上的說法非常切中要點:

        (1) 如果 Toussaint 是個有同樣天分的 19 歲古巴/拉美/亞洲小子的話,
            10 mil 夠把他簽下來嗎? 市場行情顯示不行.

        (2) 在這個國內選秀簽約金、國際自由球員市場簽約金都有上限的年代,
            還有什麼比這個更不損及球隊往後 bonus pool 的買法?

        Toussaint 當然有可能養不起來, 但 pitching prospect 就是如此;
        投資一定有風險, 新秀投資有賺有賠, 交易前應詳閱公開說明書.


以下是這次交易相關的 Tweet 海


Ben Badler @BenBadler (National Writer, Baseball America)

The D-Backs sold Touki Toussaint for $10 million, five months after
paying $16 million (with tax) for Yoan Lopez, who is not as good.

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Ben Badler @BenBadler

Not only that, but the D-Backs have the top international bonus pool.
Signing Lopez prevents them any signings above $300K for two years.

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Ben Badler @BenBadler

Meanwhile, the Braves paid $10 million to add a Top 100 prospect and
might blitz the international market in 2016. Way better strategy.

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Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin (Reporter, BravesRadioNet)

Coppolella on Tuissaint "he was a guy we really liked in the 2014 draft.
We had pick 31, he was long gone by then. We had him in our top 10"

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Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin

Coppolella on Arroyo: "could fill a swing role, he could start,
he could pitch out of the pen in short bursts.  Right now, too early to say"

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Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin

Coppolella: "as we try to build for the current as well as the future,
we felt it was a good mix and well worth it for us"

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Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin

Coppolella referred to Toussaint a "huge, huge piece for the future"

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Kevin McAlpin @KevinMcAlpin

Coppolella on Toussaint: "All the trades we've made, we've tried to get
upside arms and we feel like he falls into that category"

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Mark Bowman @mlbbowman (Braves Beat Writer, MLB.com)

Braves assistant GM John Coppolella on the trade: "We felt the payoff down
the line would be too good to just let it go."

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Mark Bowman @mlbbowman

The #Braves have discussed Toussaint for more than a month. But he because
he was a '14 draftee, he wasn't trade eligible until June 12

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Touki Toussaint™@_YoSoy_Touki (生日快樂! 歡迎來到勇士球團)

Thank you @Dbacks everything you guys have done for my family and I. The
memories made this past year are unforgettable. I appreciate it!

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Touki Toussaint™ @_YoSoy_Touki

Signing my first professional contract on my birthday in 2014 w/@Dbacks to
now getting traded to the @Braves 2015. #LaFamilia.

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Braxton Davidson @B_Davidson06 (表示在 Rome 等著他)

Glad that my boy @_YoSoy_Touki is a @Braves now! Welcome to the club bro!
#teammatesonceagain

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Carlos Collazo @CarlosACollazo (Associate Reporter, MLB.com)

During the 14 draft, @BaseballAmerica said Toussaint had
"arguably the highest ceiling of any high school pitcher." Stuff is insane.

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Hudson Belinsky @hudsonbelinsky

Toussaint had solid numbers for Kane County. #Dbacks had taken away his
curveball, a potential plus-plus pitch, and FB/CH command improved.

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Carlos Collazo @CarlosACollazo

Here's a recent MiLB story on Toussaint's progress with Kane County.
Good stuff from Curt Rallo: http://t.co/2z4rUr1iPd

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Carlos Collazo @CarlosACollazo

Coppolella also said that they saw Toussaint pitch last night and
were impressed with his changeup.

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Carlos Collazo @CarlosACollazo

The $$ involved in this trade was worth it because #Braves could
"get a guy who had arguably the very best stuff in the 2014 draft" - Coppy

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Carlos Collazo @CarlosACollazo

Basically, Touki has three potential plus pitches (if not two already)
as 19-year-old. If he can improve the command... watch out.

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JJ Cooper @jjcoop36 (Managing Editor, Baseball America)

To say this trade makes no sense for the Diamondbacks is borderline obvious.
Braves just bought a first-round arm at close to no other cost.

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JJ Cooper @jjcoop36

For the Braves? Easy slam dunk. Take on some salary and trade away
an inf who doesn't fit in their plans for a great arm? Sure.

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JJ Cooper @jjcoop36

If MLB was a league with a salary cap I could understand this deal.
It's not. There is no upside to this deal if you are a Dbacks fan.

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JJ Cooper @jjcoop36

Is there a chance Touki doesn't put it together? Sure. But he would have gone
higher if he was draft eligible this year. Wow.

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keithlaw @keithlaw

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA #dbacks

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Arizona Diamondbacks @Dbacks

Stew: "With this year's draft we stacked our minor league system with college
guys" who are ahead of Touki Toussaint on depth chart.

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keithlaw @keithlaw

Stew had the depth chart upside-down


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推 fountainNess: 怎麼想都是你勇賺,我蛇在推特狂被酸
→ tucker      : 給我的感覺很像是MVP電動為了省錢才有的交易
→ LiFePO4     : 超爽 換來去年第一輪XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
推 shantaram   : 而且不用簽約金     XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
推 MKAngelheart: 用Gosselin換到第一輪 蛇蛇又被鬼打到了嗎
推 EvanGattis  : 太爽了吧
推 Roawen      : God!! 這隻是ace potential耶 但看起來養得沒很順利
→ Roawen      : 才19歲 斧頭的農場 養得起來嗎???
→ luguei      : 蛇蛇球團去年到今年把他plus-plus的曲球封印,
→ luguei      : 要他增強他 FB/CH 的 command, 成效好像不錯
→ luguei      : 精確地說, 是 potential plus-plus curveball
推 Braves95    : 推 John Hart
推 Roawen      : 他們那堆大學手臂 一球都還沒在職業賽投過 就知道
→ Roawen      : ahead of TT on depth chart  也真夠有信心der!
推 usausausa   : 又可以找到頒"惠我良多"匾額的球隊囉
推 bigmowang   : Arroyo約是到今年嗎？不然說不定明年多賺隻工作馬
→ luguei      : 明年 13 mil,4.5 mil buyout,太貴,應該會直接buyout
→ JustinIdiot : 他沒這麼好啦…不過2號可以期待
推 Roawen      : 我是看BA 2015寫的
推 bravefan    : 沒想到要重建再省錢的我們還會幫別對吃薪水?@@
→ luguei      : https://youtu.be/qaR9D8rYrhY T.T.影片
→ bravefan    : 看到這些推特好像真的有機會賺到一個ACE耶!
→ luguei      : 我不清楚勇士在 Liberty Media 下的財務模式,
→ luguei      : 不過如果沒記錯的話, 財務獨立, 自給自足,
→ luguei      : 每年結算. 如果是每年結算的話,今年省下的錢不見得
→ luguei      : 可以挪到明年用, 如果明年的預算和今年的收益無關,
→ luguei      : 那重建年吃吃薪水無妨, 反正731應該不會朝大咖下手
→ tucker      : Keith Law的tweet也真是XDDDD
→ luguei      : 有人認為下任蛇蛇GM的合約應該這樣開頭:
→ luguei      : https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CH_y9QBWsAA-E0L.jpg
※ 編輯: luguei (111.243.24.59), 06/21/2015 19:15:06
推 Smoltzy     : XDDDDD
推 synchron    : 這曲球有點噁心啊…
推 opqasd      : 沒想到勇士也有付錢就可以拿prospect的一天