作者turkeyma (...)
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標題[情報] Some Prospect Rankings
時間Tue Feb 1 16:02:02 2022
Keith Law top 100
38 Pache
61 Harris II
80 Langeliers
38. Cristian Pache, OF, Atlanta Braves
Age: 23 | 6-2 | 215 pounds
Bats: Right | Throws: Right
Previous ranking: No. 3
Pache began 2021 in the big leagues, didn’t hit, went on the injured list, came
back, didn’t hit some more, went on the injured list, was optioned to Triple A
, and never returned to the majors, even when Ronald Acuña Jr. tore his ACL. Pac
he has only had 72 plate appearances in the majors so far, far too few to change
his long-term outlook, but there’s no sugar-coating just how not-ready for big
-league pitching he is. Good fastballs got him and so did offspeed stuff, after
which there isn’t much left to hit. Pache came into 2021 with less than a month
’s worth of games above Double A, and the lack of reps against real pitching in
2020 may have hurt him more than most players, given how immature his approach
and pitch recognition are. Pache remains an elite defender in center, and he has
power if he can hit enough to get to it, so the bar for him to clear to be a re
gular is not that high — a .300 OBP and 20-25 homers would make him an above-av
erage regular given his defensive value. I firmly believe he’ll get there, but
it may take another 400 plate appearances in Triple A before he’s ready to cont
ribute in the majors.
61. Michael Harris, OF, Atlanta Braves
Age: 21 | 6-0 | 195 pounds
Bats: Left | Throws: Left
Drafted: No. 98 in 2019
Previous ranking: Unranked
Harris was Atlanta’s third-round pick in 2019 out of a Georgia high school, and
was so impressive in his pro debut in the Gulf Coast League that Atlanta had hi
m finish the summer in Low A. He started 2021 like a house on fire in High A, st
ruggled in mid-summer, then started to make some adjustments at the plate, notab
ly seeing more pitches to finish strongly. If this top 100 were something I did
weekly (please, no), he probably would have surged on the list, dropped off in J
uly and then re-entered around Labor Day. Harris is tooled out, a 70 runner who
played 70 defense in center and showed plus power against fastballs. He struggle
d with pitch recognition, especially against offspeed stuff, and his production
dipped as a result in midseason. There’s some reason to think he made a real ad
justment later in the year, however, with a 10 percent walk rate in the second h
alf as well. He doesn’t have to be Eddie Yost to have value; he’s going to sav
e a bunch of runs in center, and the 25 homer/20 steal upside I discussed in my
comment on him last February is still very much in play.
80. Shea Langeliers, C, Atlanta Braves
Age: 24 | 6-0 | 205 pounds
Bats: Right | Throws: Right
Drafted: No. 9 in 2019
Previous ranking: Just missed
Langeliers hasn’t risen to the status of the many elite catching prospects in b
aseball, but it’s not a mark against his defense — he can throw with the best
of them, he’s a solid-average receiver and he has plus power, just lacking the
hit tool upside of the likes of Gabriel Moreno and Francisco Alvarez. At the pla
te, he’s more of a mistake hitter right now, but during the pandemic he gained
the strength to punish those mistakes, with 22 homers in 92 Double-A games befor
e a late promotion to Triple-A Gwinnett. Langeliers threw out 42 percent of oppo
sing base stealers last year, after throwing out 41 percent in his debut season
in 2019, but he’s somewhat stiff behind the dish, so while his hands are good h
e may never be more than an average or slightly better than average glove man. H
e’s close to major-league ready and could probably be a backup for Atlanta righ
t now, with everyday upside as long as he keeps crushing mistakes.
另外，B/R 的farm ranking, 我勇竟然排到11 ，這倒是蠻不可思議的
（我一路從倒數第一開始找，找半天找不到…）
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Winning Pitcher - Greg Maddux (4-5)
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SV - John Smoltz(20) HR - C. Jones (9, off Glavine)
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推 zerosaint : 感謝分享 02/01 17:57
推 duppy : 還是希望有一天Pache的打擊能夠開竅 02/01 18:11
→ turkeyma : Keith Law 有點出Langeliers 的防守面問題 ，不過 02/01 19:58
→ turkeyma : stiff behind dish 到底是什麼狀態，這必須實際上 02/01 19:58
→ turkeyma : 有看比賽才知道了，是不夠靈活嗎？ 02/01 19:58
推 opqasd : 偷好球能力會有差 02/01 23:13
推 opqasd : 其他report也有說他偷好球能力要再加強，不過這種 02/01 23:15
→ opqasd : 事我想本來就是慢慢練的 02/01 23:15
→ opqasd : 他主要缺點還是hitting普普而已 02/01 23:15
→ turkeyma : 感謝說明 framing 的話 真的還不急 02/01 23:50
※ 編輯: turkeyma (220.136.212.5 臺灣), 02/04/2022 19:56:58
推 kingwei520 : Waters不知道怎麼樣…如果他和Pache都沒長 02/05 21:27
→ kingwei520 : 出來，對勇勇真的頗有影響XD 02/05 21:28
→ turkeyma : Keith Law # 17 02/07 23:23
→ turkeyma : 平均起來大概就是中後段，但沒有落到很後面 02/07 23:24
→ turkeyma : 19年那批若今年養成繼續好 就會上升 02/07 23:25
推 opqasd : 那批天份上限不高，可能排名都不會很高 02/10 12:04
→ opqasd : 短時間內勇勇農場要有啥突破性成長不太容易 02/10 12:04
推 kingwei520 : 各方面看起來Freeman回來的機會越來越低 02/10 12:20
→ kingwei520 : 勇勇的備案是要被掃農場的Olsen嗎XD 02/10 12:21
→ turkeyma : 連續有競爭力的球隊 農場能排在中前段就好棒棒了 02/11 09:22
→ turkeyma : 突破性成長倒是不需要去期待 只要再好一點即可 02/11 09:23
推 zerosaint : 今年要有DH了，這樣外野是不是再補一位呢 02/11 09:25
推 synchron : Freeman動向未明前應該很難做什麼 QQ 02/11 12:39
→ synchron : 封館結束後優先處理的依然是Freeman 02/11 12:40
→ righthand : 有DH 感覺大谷約滿去躲人的機率上升了.... 02/11 13:47
推 kingwei520 : DH很多人要分，阿酷、歐租再到某外野手 02/11 16:10
推 kingwei520 : Freeman的續約真令人頭痛 02/11 16:12
推 kingwei520 : 但Freeman續約與否，Soler都可以先留 02/11 16:18
→ kingwei520 : 或是Rosario、Duvall 02/11 16:18
→ turkeyma : 你們都忘記古巴路人甲了吼？ 人家內定中外野先發了 02/11 16:43
→ turkeyma : 捏 02/11 16:43
推 kingwei520 : 呵呵，我一直以為他是4號OF 02/12 09:50
推 synchron : Duvall又不是FA….. 02/12 14:20
→ zerosaint : 大佛還有一年約吧 02/12 15:46
→ zerosaint : 古巴路人甲 我還不如期待Pache 02/12 15:48
推 kingwei520 : Duvall要求1000萬以上，勇勇沒要跟XD 02/12 16:45
→ turkeyma : 樓上在說啥…. Duvall’s contract was contended 02/12 19:38
→ turkeyma : by Braves prior to the lockout 02/12 19:38
推 kingwei520 : 哈哈哈，我沒跟到，不知道他合約狀況XD 02/12 21:38
推 kingwei520 : 所以Duvall今年是領9M嗎？ 02/12 21:41
→ turkeyma : 仲裁都停擺了 所以實際上大家領多少 目前都不知道 02/12 21:58
→ turkeyma : 喔 02/12 21:58
推 kingwei520 : Duvall正常是2022領7M，但他應該拒絕了 02/12 22:36
→ kingwei520 : 有個買斷3M這樣。所以不確定他的合約搞定了沒 02/12 22:37
→ turkeyma : Jessie 被排到前十名蠻奇怪的 他要brrakout有難度 03/09 11:04
→ turkeyma : ^^breakout 03/09 11:04
推 opqasd : 因為排他後面的人也沒什麼了不起的 03/09 20:05
→ turkeyma : Tarnok/Grissom 的天花板比他高吧 03/10 09:07
→ turkeyma : 不過反正就10，11，12 03/10 09:07
推 opqasd : Grissom狀況跟他半斤八兩, Tarnok當牛的機會蠻大的y 03/10 10:33
推 opqasd : 新版CBA通過之後可以預期球員薪資會在往上大跳一階 03/11 09:28
