[新聞] Adblock Plus一年內失去數百萬使用者

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Firefox: Adblock Plus lost millions of users in the past year
https://www.ghacks.net/2017/09/29/firefox-adblock-plus-lost-millions-of-users-in-the-past-year/


    Adblock Plus is the most popular content blocking add-on for the
    Mozilla Firefox web browser. In fact, it is the most popular
    add-on for Firefox by a large margin.

    Its more than 14 million users beat second placed uBlock Origin by
     more than 10 million users right now. But things are not super
    great if you take a look at how Adblock Plus' user count developed
     over the past year.

    A quick check reveals that the add-ons daily average user count
    and daily downloads are down. An average of 21.4 million users
    used Adblock Plus daily on September 29th, 2016. Additionally, the
     add-on was downloaded 181,000 times on that day alone.

    One year later, daily users are at 15.4 million on September 27th,
     2017, and daily downloads at 89,000. That is a decrease of about
    six million users in a year's time, and a drop in daily downloads
    by 92,000 when compared to the stats a year ago.

https://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/adblock-plus-usage-stats.png

    One could argue that Firefox usage may be down as well, and that
    the drop in daily users and downloads is caused by that more than
    anything else. But this would mean that other add-ons should see
    similar drops in usage.

    If you take a look at the uBlock Origin statistics, the second
    most popular add-on on Mozilla AMO right now, and a content
    blocker as well, you will notice that the add-ons stats are up.

    On September 29th, 2016, uBlock Origin had about 1.5 million daily
     users, and about 22,000 daily downloads. One year later, on
    September 27th, 2017, those figures rose to 4.1 million daily
    users and 55,000 daily downloads.

    The add-on managed to more than double its user base and daily
    downloads in a year's time.

https://cdn.ghacks.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/ublock-origin-stats.png

    To be fair, uBlock Origin's daily downloads jumped shortly after
    September 29th, and have actually dropped heavily at the end of
    June and recovered only recently.

    The huge uptick of downloads at the end of August seems to
    correlate with the release of the WebExtensions versions of uBlock
     Origin. Similarly, Adblock Plus managed to increase its daily
    downloads at around the same time, but both download counts did
    fall to previous levels shortly thereafter.

    To come back to the initial question: why did Adblock Plus's daily
     user number drop by several million users while similar
    extensions did not see a drop but an increase instead?

    Lets take a look at possible explanations:

        Adblock Plus's Acceptable Ads program might be a reason. While
     it is possible to disable the program in Adblock Plus, some users
     may have had troubles doing so, or made the decision to move to
    another content blocker instead.
        Rise in popularity of uBlock Origin which may have had an
    impact on Adblock Plus's performance. Interest in Adblock Plus
    dropped slightly according to Google Trends, but uBlock Origin
    interest increased only slightly however.

    It is likely that uBlock Origin gained users who migrated from
    Adblock Plus to the new extension, but this does not explain what
    the remaining millions of users did. Could it be a change in
    reporting on Mozilla AMO?


備註：
AdBlock Plus使用數從去年九月底的21.4M → 15.4M，
而uBlock Origin 1.5M → 4.1M
可能原因: 1. ABP的廣告允許計畫 2.因為uBlock Origin支援了WebExtension

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→ cys070: 用了UBO就不想回去用ABP
→ cys070: UBO支援WE是近期的事，應該不是主要原因
→ hdd60311: ABP被詬病肥大拖累性能已經很久了但是開發方似乎都沒有
→ hdd60311: 想要改善?
→ abc0922001: ublock origin就是好用，私心希望使用者不要太多
→ abc0922001: 棒打出頭鳥
推 toploader: 我是因為效能的原因
推 abc0922001: 我朋友裝了ABP，還特別裝去Youtube廣告的擴充套件
→ abc0922001: 就幫他換成uBlock Origin了
推 APM99: 裝到假的ABP吧  一個月前還用ABP的時候沒看過youtube廣告
推 abc0922001: 應該吧，我好幾年沒用ABP了
推 scorpioz: 我當初裝ABP看不到水管廣告的啊，不過現在也換UBO了，差
→ scorpioz: 太多
推 Seventhsky: UBO人會增加很正常啊 更新很勤也很重視使用者的意見
推 twtwch: 一開始也是用ADB,之後換UBO用過就回不去
→ cys070: UBO作者其實滿有個性的開發者，之前就是不想被人綁手綁腳
→ cys070: 所以才又開一個UBO專案
→ Seventhsky: 事實證明他是對的 重開UBO後 UB就完全被那些人擺爛了
→ Seventhsky: 可見那些人搶UB主導權時根本就是另有目的
→ hdd60311: 聽說ABP的WE版功能大幅弱化，看來真的要被UBO完全打趴惹
→ hijacker: 比較好奇UBO靠什麼賺錢 還是只是作者佛心奉獻？
推 mayuyu: 作者不接受斗內 也不塞廣告 更新還這麼勤快
→ mayuyu: 一做還做這麼多久 實在太不可思議了
推 Bellkna: 推ubo好用XD
推 idlewolf: ABP變這麼廢了?以前試裝UBO後感覺不錯就延用了一直沒換
→ idlewolf: 不過除了省些效能外我是沒感覺到其他好處XD
推 APM99: ABP換UBO無感很正常  因為本來就無感
→ APM99: UBo能興起跟作者還有整個社群有關吧
推 s816266: UBO確實不錯用，不過有個問題讓我還沒正式改用UBO
→ s816266: 就是有些礙眼廣告不會立刻消失，要等一會才消失
推 richard1003: ABP最近都擋不了廣告，已換
→ s816266: 可能是因為規則載入的較慢的關係才這樣，能解決嗎？
→ sate5232: 雖然現在用UBO，但我覺得那界面對使用者不太友善
推 abc0922001: UBO不是直接阻擋網路載入嗎，怎麼會先載入才去除
→ sate5232: https://i.imgur.com/lrTA845.png 這紅色綠色灰色加號減
→ sate5232: 號我到現在都不知道幹麻的
→ abc0922001: 其實我覺得還好，你安裝完就可以直接用了，不用管他
→ sate5232: 是呀，但就覺得功能放在那卻一直不知道幹麻的感覺很怪
→ sate5232: 然後有兩列，前面那列和後面那列有啥不同也不知道
推 abc0922001: 前面是全域規則，後面是區域規則，紅色是阻擋
推 cys070: 那個網路有教學，進階阻擋用法
→ abc0922001: 灰色應該是該網域某些會阻擋某些不會
→ cys070: 讓使用者可以針對特定網站自訂，不用都靠訂閱規則
推 sate5232: 原來如此，我是都只用到元素選擇器
推 abc0922001: 如果用元素選擇器擋了某些元素，該網域會不會變灰色的
→ s816266: 廣告會過一陣子才消失，讓我想到之前ABP也有延遲啟動的關
→ s816266: 係，所以廣告也是會過一陣子才消失，想說有沒有辦法調整
→ s816266: 參數之類的方式，解決廣告不會立刻被阻擋的情形
→ kuro: https://goo.gl/bWeFVb  動態過濾快速指南 (簡字)
推 mayuyu: 灰色的稱做noop 也就是動態規則不起作用
→ mayuyu: 依照靜態規則（你建立的或者訂閱的第三方規則）來過濾
→ mayuyu: UBO官方有使用說明 也有簡中版
→ mayuyu: https://github.com/gorhill/uBlock/wiki
→ mayuyu: 動態規則很強大 學起來受用無窮
→ hdd60311: UBO本來就是主打效能和佔用贏ABP吧，這方面有感不就夠了
→ Risedo: 目前是用adblock第一次聽到UBO 不知道差別如何
→ Risedo: ubo現在好像也能防 挖礦病毒似的
推 jtmh: 太久沒跟相關消息，一樣也沒聽過UBO...
推 abccbaandy: 防挖礦ABP也能阿...同樓上+1 好久沒跟這塊了
推 APM99: 沒聽過很正常啊  基本上貓熊57沒有ABP才會聽說UBo...
推 tzback: 雖然改用uBO多年 仍覺得ABP的Element Hiding Helper最好用
推 olduck: 個人用ubo也是部份廣告會閃出一下才擋，這部份adb,adguard
→ olduck: 都沒有，不過還是用ubo，電腦比較舊adb拖的太明顯
→ s816266: 不過ABP的開發版有支援57版的，至於廣告閃一下的問題想說
→ s816266: 能不能回報作者看看解決一下，不過不通英文是問題
推 bunjie: 感謝提供資訊 馬上換來試試看
推 rgbff: ABP的Element Hiding Helper好用+1，也是因為這樣沒換UBO
推 abc0922001: 請問那個Element Hiding Helper是做什麼用的阿?
→ Seventhsky: 元素隱藏 給你自己選擇隱藏網頁的哪個部分
→ t7yang: 怎麼可能沒有
→ abc0922001: UBO你網頁上點右鍵就有阻擋元素，那個不就是了嗎
→ tzback: Element Hiding Helper可以用鍵盤控制阻擋元素範圍
推 popbitch: 有些網頁偵測到擋廣告就不給看有解嗎?
→ popbitch: 以前anti-adblock killer有用，最近都不行了
推 rayx000: Anti-Adblock Killer Continued可以用 缺點是油猴不支源
→ rayx000: ABP的Element Hiding Helper真的好用 UBO的元素隱藏
→ rayx000: 就如同上面所提 會閃一下才會消失 有辦法解決嗎
推 popbitch: 我是用Tampermonkey，所以可以用
→ jhtsai0825: 有 uBlock Protector 可以用
推 johnny9667: 請問我改用ubo 可是還是會出現這個 有什麽辦法嗎？
→ johnny9667: https://i.imgur.com/g3Oxfv3.png
→ kuro: 樓上有網址測試嗎？
推 johnny9667: 我站內信你
→ johnny9667: 他不只會跳出這個 過幾秒鐘還會自動轉址到別的網頁
→ johnny9667: 擋不太住
→ johnny9667: 感謝kuro大大
→ kuro: 好說好說  :)
推 s816266: 我有回報UBO會有廣告閃一下才消失的問題，作者回覆我一篇
→ s816266: 連結，https://goo.gl/xTU3V9 ，內容不太了解，誰能解釋
→ s816266: 一下嗎？能完全解決這問題的話，就能完全改用UBO了

Network filters: 在要求送出前過濾掉
Hosts file: (uB0特有) 同上
Cosmetic filters: 細分成
  1.Specific cosmetic filters-在渲染前過濾掉
  2.Generic cosmetic filters-渲染後過濾 你看到的一閃 ABP跟uB0皆會發生
  3.Cached generic cosmetic filters(uB0特有)-第2點第一次發生後快取 往後便
    會渲染前過濾
推 richjf: 裝最新版ubo後imgur圖會顯示不了
推 olduck: 原來過濾規則是這樣，不過如果真的很討廣告先出來一下可以
→ olduck: 用元素選擇加到自訂過濾，有些常上的網站有橫幅欄位沒第一
→ olduck: 時間攔下會先佔用欄位才消失，頁面重新排版覺得眼睛會花
→ olduck: 自訂的過濾規則就會直接擋不給機會出現(個人使用經驗)
推 s816266: 謝謝kaoh大的解釋，不過olddulk用元素選擇確實之前閃一下
→ s816266: 第一時間擋下來，還是會閃一下
→ s816266: olddulk大的作法，在中央社網站會行不通，就算用元素選擇
→ s816266: 還是會出現廣告閃一下的狀況
→ kaoh08: 效能越好看到閃一下的機會越高
→ kaoh08: 只要不是阻擋要求的方式都免不了廣告被下載
→ kaoh08: 這點ADP 跟ub0都一樣 就看你心理覺得舒不舒服
推 micbrimac: 我就是消失的那個 ADP現在完全不能擋youtube 超爛的
※ 編輯: kaoh08 (216.218.222.12), 11/29/2017 09:35:35