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http://goo.gl/p9cWIl 原文 很久沒翻外電,一方面頗懶,一方面也不喜歡文章被記者改改拿去抄 一方面討論常常會失焦(如果在NBA版) 這篇文章和一些關於Lue的戰術姊妹文章其實很早就想翻了, (尤其是關於Lue如何在第一輪四次最後一秒都成功執行的戰術) 就從這篇開始好了,一次替兩個人洗刷一下黑名 Why Tyronn Lue's Game 1 plan pained Kyrie Irving, yet helped the Cavs 為什麼Lue在G1的戰術黑了KI,但是幫助了騎士隊 INDEPENDENCE, Ohio -- The pained expression on Kyrie Irving’s face combined with seeing the Cleveland Cavaliers’ point guard scratching his head with both of his hands was an all too familiar sight for coach Tyronn Lue. 騎士教練對KI面露痛苦的表情外加雙手捎頭的肢體表現 再也熟悉不過。 Lue saw it quite a few times, actually, in Cleveland’s 104-93 Game 1 win against the Atlanta Hawks in the Eastern Conference semifinals Monday. 事實上Lue在G1這場比賽中已經看過多次KI這種肢體動作 “Whenever he does this,” Lue said after practice Tuesday, mimicking Irving’s body language, “that means something’s wrong.” 「每當他這樣做的時候」Lue學了一下KI抓頭的動作, 「那就表示有些事情不對勁了。」 Irving’s consternation stemmed from the Cavs’ defensive scheme on Hawks backup point guard, Dennis Schroder. KI的困擾來自於騎士對老鷹替補後衛Schroder的防守策略 Going into the series, Cleveland determined it would put all of its effort into limiting Kyle Korver’s touches on offense and play off of Schroder while doing so -- essentially daring the third-year guard to shoot. 在進入系列賽時,騎士就已經決定防守戰略的大方向就是 盡量限制住KK得出手數並且相對的放Schroder外線空擋, 基本上就是讓Schroder外線吃到飽。 In one sense, the plan worked to perfection. Korver, coming off a first round in which he averaged 3.3 made 3s per game, attempted just one shot in Game 1 and missed it. J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert received individual praise for their efforts in containing Korver within the team defense, and rightfully so. 從某種角度而言,這策略完美的成功了。KK在第一輪平均 每場能投進3.3顆三分,這一場只出手了一次並且失守了。 JR和香波理所當然的得到了該有的讚美,毫無疑問 Where things got uncomfortable for Irving was seeing Schroder, who shot just 3-for-16 from 3 (18.8 percent) in the first round against Boston, suddenly go 5-for-10 from downtown in Game 1. 但是事情對KI而言變得棘手的原因在於,Schroder, 這個第一輪三分球投16進三,命中率18.8%的替補後衛,在G1三分線 竟然投10進5 “He’s like looking at me and he’s like, ‘Are we still going to keep going under (the screens) with Schroder?’” Lue said of Irving. “I was like, ‘Let’s give it one more try.’ Then we adjusted and I thought the guys did a great job of adjusting and we took care of the problem in the situation, and it’s a tribute to those guys. Lue說「KI不斷看著我然後像是在問我說「咱們還要用現在 的防守策略(退到擋人者之後)來守Schroder嗎?」,但是我就像是 再說「讓我們再試一次如何?」然後我們調整了戰略而我認為我們 的球員調整得很好而且解決了Schroder這個問題,所以這歸功於整體 球員。」 “We came in with a game plan, Schroder made shots; it didn’t work so we had to adjust, and they did a great job of adjusting.” 「我們賽前有擬好一套方針,Schroder投進了這些球。 所以這套方針效果不好,所以我們賽中必須調整,這些球員們 調整得非常棒。」 The fact that Korver was held to just one attempt for the first time all season was understandably hard for Irving to celebrate when it appeared like he was being abused in his individual matchup with Schroder. 事實上對於KI來說,雖然KK被限制到本季第一次全場只 出手一次,但是他卻很難慶祝戰略成功,畢竟在比賽中他和Schroder的對位 看起來就是不斷的被虐 Twice during his postgame remarks, when asked about Schroder’s impact, Irving offered requisite respect but made sure to add that the way he guarded the Hawks’ floor general was a scripted part of the “game plan.” 事實上在賽後訪問中,當KI被問到Schroder的表現時, KI至少兩次提起他認為Schroder的確打得很棒,但是這原因在於 騎士賽前的戰略方針制定就是放給Schroder投到爽,所以這是 預料中事 There is surely some pride in play for Irving, 24, matched against Schroder, 22, and Lue understands that. That’s why Irving’s continued buy-in in the Cavs’ team instructions -- even if he flashed that troubled look from time to time -- was even more impressive to Lue. 當然對24歲的KI而言,跟22歲的Schroder放對是會讓他的 自尊心站出來的,而Lue也了解這一點。這也是為什麼即使KI的肢體 語言表現出他的挫折,但是他依然不斷的相信騎士的戰術制定, 而這一點讓Lue更感到印象深刻 “I just told the team today, if we can limit Korver to one shot, that’s big for us,” Lue said. “It was kind of the same thing in the first series. I think we trapped the basketball with [Andre] Drummond and [Reggie] Jackson, and we’re leaving guys open. Guys made some shots, but we didn’t get discouraged. That was our game plan, to take them out of the pick-and-roll, and we did that. And guys didn’t get discouraged. They knew what we were playing for and what we were trying to do. 「我今天跟球隊說如果我們能限制KK全場只投一球, 那這對我們而言是巨大的成功,這跟第一輪其實也有點類似。 我們在防守上就是不斷的去包夾裝猛和RJ,所以其他人會得到一些 空擋。他們外線即使神準,我們也不感到挫折。因為這是我們的 比賽計劃,就是要破壞他們的擋切戰術,而我們做到了。我們也做到 不對賽前計畫感到挫折。他們知道我們在做什麼和我們試著在完成 些什麼。」Lue解釋到 “It was kind of the same thing [Monday]. The kind of competitive part kicks in when guys are scoring and that’s your matchup, but, just for the most part I thought we did a great job.” 「這就跟禮拜一一樣,你競爭的天性被你的對手激發出來, 但是同時間大部分時候我認為我們遵守賽前計畫這方面做得很成功。」 In trapping Drummond and Jackson in the first round against Detroit, guys like Stanley Johnson, Tobias Harris, Marcus Morris and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope were granted easy opportunities when the Pistons could elude the Cavs’ initial pressure. 第一輪包夾RJ和裝猛的確讓SJ, Harris和Morris以及KCP得到 很多大空擋的機會-尤其他們若能甩脫騎士第一線地防守壓力時 However, during the course of the series, the trap worked more often than not and Lue’s players only trusted the coach’s instructions with further conviction. 然而,在第一輪的系列賽中,包夾成功明顯大於失敗, 而這也讓騎士球員更信任教練的指示 “You got to stick with the game plan and hope that the percentages will play out because when you have a game plan like that to give up something to take away a lot of other things,” said Matthew Dellavedova. “You have to give up something like that, because if you change it [in the middle of the game], then they get the other things. So it's definitely a balancing act with something like that.” Delly說到「你必須去執行賽前的計畫並且希望對手有時神準的命中率 會漸漸得到平衡,因為當你的賽前計畫是去放棄一部份的防守 以保全更大方面的成功時,你必須要放棄一部份的防守(像是 容易被外圍球員得到大空擋),因為如果你在比賽中又想著 要去補那塊,那他們另一邊就會開始得到一些機會。所以這絕對是 在權衡得失後的產物。」 That’s not to say that Lue is so stubborn that he won’t make changes just to prove his initial plan right. In the postgame locker room after Game 1, Irving said that he “already has ideas ” for adjustments for Game 2 -- ideas that will surely be shared with Lue. It’s just another sign of the synchronicity occurring in Cleveland now. 這並不是說Lue是個冥頑不靈的教練不願意去改變計劃 來證明他的賽前計畫是成功的。在賽後休息室中KI已經提到他 有一些關於G2防守該如何改變的點子,而這些點子顯然會讓 Lue知道。這正是另一個騎士目前整隊都在同一張紙上的證明。 “We definitely all believe in the coaching staff and their game plan,” Dellavedova said. “All the players know the game plan and have watched the film and know what the plan is, and it's just a matter of executing it." Delly繼續說道「我們當然都對教練組和他們擬定的計畫買單, 全部的球員都知道我們的方針如何,並且研究了比賽錄像也知道計畫 是怎樣的,重點就在於如何去執行他的態度了。」 ======================== 心得: 其實這類報導這一陣子不少,都是關於Lue是個怎樣的教練, 和一些他執行成功的戰術以及球員和教練間的互動 但是這些報導基本上沒有在酸LBJ或Lue,所以上不了ptt 我得說換教練的那一個月我也覺得騎士高層真的是腦袋有洞 平白替騎士隊找罵名,讓LBJ背黑鍋,不管他喜不喜歡Blatt, 我認為他當時實在沒有要換教練的意思。 而另一點是我對Lue實在沒信心,即使不知道是因為他有大家的裸照 還是怎樣,每個跟他共事過的人好像都說他超讚 不過最近我還真覺得Lue會不會是大師級的教練不知道, 但是他的戰術上還是有個一套兩套,並且頗有自己的想法 而他也能讓球員買單去執行他想要的戰術 後面這一點真的就是Blatt還沒辦法做得很好的,不管原因為何 而前面這一點,也讓我稍微安心一點,至少不是一個西瓜擺在那的fu 最後關於KI,的確這一場背了一些防守旋轉門的黑鍋, 畢竟騎士不想放KK空擋,相對而言一個擋拆就會讓不是KK的人能過第一線 不過最後一個play也可以看到如果是放單邊1 on 1,KI也是能守不錯的 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 72.89.233.155 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Cavaliers/M.1462332744.A.F5C.html
cksxxb123: KK失守是不是要改成失手啊~XD 05/04 11:36
kart: 看得懂就好啦~(懶) 05/04 11:38
idiotsmart: 騎士隊員不是防守前幾隊等級組成的 策略一定有所犧牲 05/04 11:49
idiotsmart: 大比分跟贏一分都是一場勝場 只要能贏 被計畫外的人得 05/04 11:49
idiotsmart: 分真的不需要太在意 05/04 11:50
jodino: 看到KK我就想到他那3罰,為什麼沒犯在他身上卻罰3球… 05/04 11:52
idiotsmart: 不過真的打到勇刺等級的球隊...就需要應變能力了 05/04 11:53
tkuce1b: 推~ 05/04 11:57
srxrrr: 推!!! 05/04 12:15
phoenician: 先推再看 05/04 13:05
a28200266: 推推 05/04 13:28
wii128: PUSH 05/04 13:57
greatkevin: 推 05/04 14:00
jinpenchi: 勇刺用這套防守方式會很慘,簡單的叮防都比較ok 05/04 14:18
jinpenchi: 馬刺好多了,勇士的話放給Curry練投三分,,可能一節就 05/04 14:20
jinpenchi: 買單了 05/04 14:20
jinpenchi: 現在KI也認真防守了,貼teague或德國人也沒問題 05/04 14:21
a28200266: 勇士的話肯定是放Green投吧 去年也是這樣防守 05/04 14:22
poolo: 推 05/04 14:23
jinpenchi: 我覺得用這套是可以,不過不能讓對方球員站到舒適點 05/04 14:24
KyrieIrving1: 寶寶心裡苦 可寶寶不說QQ 05/04 14:39
torresma: 希望別用這套對勇刺...會被打爆 05/04 15:28
ghostforever: 推 05/04 15:40
Jotard: 但讓Schroder拿了27分還差點被翻盤 也不能說是最佳策略吧 05/04 15:49
Jotard: 尤其總冠軍戰的假想敵可是有兩隻開掛的 到時候又要怎麼辦 05/04 15:50
Jotard: 我是覺得可以趁打老鷹時演練一下 把對方1.2號位都當curry 05/04 15:51
Jotard: 不然連Schroder都拿了27 是不是要送Curry54? XD 05/04 15:52
raychen0322: 最後一個PLAY就好像KI再說 我要守還是能蓋爆你 05/04 16:28
Kobe58121051: 是說LBJ到底要怎說話阿 說隊友打不好也要被酸 稱讚 05/04 16:40
Kobe58121051: 隊友也要被酸 搞得我好亂R 05/04 16:40
cksxxb123: LBJ不是說什麼的問題 是他的存在的問題XD 05/04 17:30
JBROTHER: LBJ不是說什麼的問題 是酸民存在的問題XDXD 05/04 17:31
e920528: 推推 05/04 18:26
kart: 今天開局有點爛 05/05 08:06