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http://www.reformation21.org/blog/2015/08/christological-confusion-china.php
Dr. Bruce Baugus
Education
The Pennsylvania State University, B.S.
The Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, M.Div.
Calvin Theological Seminary, Ph.D.
Associate professor of philosophy and theology at Reformed Theological
Seminary in Jackson,
He is the editor of China’s Reforming Churches: Mission, Polity, and
Ministry in the Next Christendom (Grand Rapids: Reformation Heritage Books,
2014), author of a number of articles, papers, and reviews, and writes for
reformation21.org.
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In his own words, the question is "whether Christ's human nature and his
physical body were created or pre-existent before the creation of the world."
[1] The orthodox answer, which the Reformed tradition maintains, is that the
human nature of the incarnate Son, body and soul, is finite and created just
as ours and is assumed by him in the conception that occurs by the power of
the Holy Spirit in Mary's womb. By the means of this conception the Son
becomes fully human without ceasing to be fully divine.
用該人士自己的話，問題的癥結乃是「究竟基督的人性並物質身體是被造的，抑或是在世
界的創造前就是先存的。」
[ All quotes of the author are from reliable
translations of Chinese originals, consisting of both published literature
and transcriptions of sound recordings of the source of these remarks. I am
gratefully indebted to three individuals who translated and edited the
English transcripts I cite, with only incidental modifications, in this
essay. As mentioned before, I have decided not to identify the speaker by
name in this series.
- See more at: http://www.reformation21.org/blo ... thash.DlNh89ik.dpuf
此處引用該作者的话都是根據中文原文的可靠翻譯，包括公開出版的材料並對於這些問題
之錄音的紀錄。我非常感謝翻譯並編輯這些我所引用之英文文字的三位人士，在本文中只
做了附帶的調整。如同我已經提過的，我決定不在這個系列中指出該人士的名字。]正統
的答案，也正是改革宗所堅持的答案，乃是道成肉身之子的人性，身體與魂都是有限並被
造的，就如同我們的一樣，在透過聖靈的能力於馬利亞的腹中成孕的時候所披上的。透過
這個成孕的過程，子成為完全的人而未曾喪失完整的神性。
※ 引述《slitlamp (一刀)》之銘言：
: 最近半年終於有西方學者願意出來指證唐崇榮的錯謬，
: 這再次證實，唐崇榮的基督論是要受到高度質疑。
: 越是影響力大的牧師，其言論越是該受放大鏡檢視。
: 豈能說只有一個論點有錯就是異端？
: 我必須說，連一個異端的論點都不應該有。
: ※ 引述《slitlamp (一刀)》之銘言：
: : 我特地再找出2011年的原文。
: : 今天是2016年，我又找了新的西方神學院教師的文章來佐證。
: : 我再次強調，真理就是真理，不是各打五十大板，也不是我不論斷就草草了事。
: : 今天，唐崇榮所傳得基督論錯誤，就是異端，就是我們該拒絕的。
: : 打著改革宗旗號，卻被改革宗神學院教師質疑的人，他的傳講你我怎能相信？
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