推 aska911: 雖然你在這版常被噓,我是非常能理解你的感受的,因為我08/28 23:35
→ aska911: 對造,也是跟你前妻一樣的爛人08/28 23:36
推 juju1019: 記得你太太原本要小孩的…後來談成的條件08/29 01:36
→ juju1019: 小孩如你所願跟著你08/29 01:37
1丶我是要她付小孩撫養費
2丶我沒有想要離婚,是她自己走的。
→ Kimilulu: 自己答應免付撫養費把監護權給你,講的好像前妻蓄意不08/29 21:40
→ Kimilulu: 付。真會扭曲事實08/29 21:40
小孩監護權不該是買賣標的,否則
與人口買賣有何差異?我前妻本來
就是沒打算付小孩撫養費,扭曲事
實的是你才對。
→ Kimilulu: 以為消失一陣子網友就忘記你以前的發言了嗎?真是本性08/30 08:47
→ Kimilulu: 難移08/30 08:47
推 Atlantean: 或許B大對前妻不友善, 但是前妻沒出小孩撫養費是事實..08/30 09:25
→ Atlantean: 這兩件事應該分開看吧..08/30 09:25
→ Kimilulu: 樓上你不知道前妻本來要一個小孩的,B大擺爛不談,是他08/30 09:58
從小孩利益的角度,要從小一起長大
玩樂的兄妹分開,是一件很殘忍的事。
有良心的媽媽,是不該講這種話的。
→ Kimilulu: 媽媽去談離婚,條件是兩個小孩都給爸爸不用扶養費,前08/30 09:58
→ Kimilulu: 妻才答應的。離婚中自己提出的條件交換變成對方擺爛不08/30 09:58
→ Kimilulu: 付?完全不一樣的事情08/30 09:58
推 hikaru924: B前妻有這麼想要小孩就會上法院訴訟啦 笑死 08/30 10:40
→ hikaru924: 真的愛小孩就應該要付好扶養費 那是小孩的資源與發展 08/30 10:41
推 hikaru924: 兩邊都有問題 不用只撻伐B08/30 10:43
→ sunny760222: 挖~鐵粉又出來說話,愛小孩就要付撫養費那當初何必08/30 12:58
→ sunny760222: 做協議08/30 12:58
會有這樣的協議,是因為我前妻不
愛小孩,而我這邊更愛小孩。
→ sai0613: 你真愛小孩的話,就不會對自己的小孩男女有差別待遇 08/30 17:38
男女生的教養方式,本來就有差異。
推 juju1019: 真的不想要離婚,當初就應該好好處理你們的問題08/30 23:39
→ juju1019: 不是只覺得不該離婚,不該兄妹分開08/30 23:40
→ FireLake: You still can't accept your ex dumps you. You have09/01 01:58
我和我前妻是因為理念和價值觀不
合而分手,為何要用 dump 這個字?
而且為何是她 dump 我,而不是我
dump 她?
→ FireLake: been disrespecting single parent family and you are09/01 01:58
單親家庭,如果是因為夫妻有一方
自私不顧小孩利益而形成的,為何
要去尊敬?要尊敬誰?
→ FireLake: not able to accept the fact you become a failure by09/01 01:58
→ FireLake: your own standard regarding single parent family.09/01 01:59
失敗的是我前妻,因為她不負責任。
噓 FireLake: There are many great single parents including in09/01 08:41
→ FireLake: this board who deserve respect, but since you always09/01 08:41
→ FireLake: disrespect any single parent family, you still can't 09/01 08:41
尊不尊重要看個案,不用急著給人
扣帽子。我只想先反問一句,那些
非小孩同住方的一方,有支付小孩
撫養費,以及感謝小孩同住方照顧
小孩的辛苦嗎?沒有的話,我就會
覺得這樣的人不值得被尊重。
→ FireLake: accept your ex dumped you and you become a failure 09/01 08:42
用 dump 就表示你心中有偏見,夫
妻是平等的,沒有誰 dump 誰的問
題。
→ FireLake: by your own disdain of single parent families. 09/01 08:42
噓 FireLake: that's great, if you really think it's case-by-case,09/01 11:54
→ FireLake: there is really no reaso your daughter can't find09/01 11:54
→ FireLake: good husband due to growing up in a single parent09/01 11:54
你也可以説,如果不去管小孩,小孩
也有可能自己長的好,這是概率問題。
→ FireLake: family and it's time for you to accept the fact you09/01 11:55
→ FireLake: got dumped by your ex and become a failure by your09/01 11:56
→ FireLake: standard of disdaining single parent families.09/01 11:56
我前妻無法在離婚後,接受仍要對小
孩負責,以及感謝照顧小孩那一方的
觀念,失敗的只會是她,而不是我。
她丟棄的不是我,而是她自己的榮譽
和道德。
推 hikaru924: 某sunny就只會急著扣帽子 我說雙方都有問題09/05 14:58
→ hikaru924: 希望小孩好 你經濟可以的話 為什麼不付撫養費09/05 14:59
推 hikaru924: 的確協議就是協議 所以我支持B去法院訴訟撫養費問題09/05 15:02
→ hikaru924: 他不去又一直抱怨就是他的問題 你sunny就只是B酸而已09/05 15:02
重點不是錢與法院,否則與嗟來之食何
異?付錢+發自內心的感謝,才是重點。
※ 編輯: Bedlem (101.12.95.118 臺灣), 09/06/2021 08:13:22
噓 FireLake: You simply can't accept you got dumped, it's really09/07 06:00
→ FireLake: not about your ex, it's about you got dumped and09/07 06:00
→ FireLake: become a failure by your own standard. It's a pity09/07 06:01
→ FireLake: you still can't accept this simple fact after these09/07 06:03
→ FireLake: years. You're just too proud to accept failure.09/07 06:03
夫妻相處不合而分手,在現代社會是
正常的事,何來成功或失敗之説?可
恥的是不肯對小孩負責,逃避支付小
孩撫養費的行為。這種想法的普及,
對社會下一代的成長,才是滅頂之災。
※ 編輯: Bedlem (101.12.95.118 臺灣), 09/07/2021 07:31:47
噓 FireLake: Most people are able to accept the divorce and move09/07 11:32
→ FireLake: on, but you obviously can't accept the fact you got09/07 11:33
→ FireLake: dumped after these years. You're just too proud to 09/07 11:33
→ FireLake: face rejection. 09/07 11:33
接受離婚,和接受對方傷害小孩及賴
帳,是兩回事。而且夫妻是平等的,
相處不來可以分手,但沒有誰 dump
誰這種事。接受你這種帶有陷阱與錯
誤的價值觀,才是腦袋有問題。
推 sunny760222: 924,經濟許可跟付撫養費是兩回事,當初不要有協議讓 09/07 12:03
→ sunny760222: 小孩選擇想跟哪一個不就沒事,難不成因為小孩說要跟 09/07 12:03
小孩不是完全行為能力人,把選擇交給
小孩,是不負責任的行為。法院在判定
監護權時,不可能單純問小孩要跟誰,
而且就算是要問小孩,也是由兒童心理
學家,在一定的規範下來了解。
→ sunny760222: 前妻是因為某B不夠愛小孩?09/07 12:03
法院判定小孩的監護權歸屬,自然是以
小孩利益為判斷依據。愛小孩的話,只
要確定法院是以這個標準為判斷依據,
就沒有什麼好不能接受的。
→ sunny760222: 用撫養費來定義愛不愛小孩的好像是你吧,沒付撫養費09/07 12:03
→ sunny760222: 不表示前妻沒花資源在小孩身上。09/07 12:03
好像養小孩不用花錢似的,你是活在
哪裡?
噓 FireLake: keep telling yourself whatever makes you avoid09/07 12:15
→ FireLake: reality. It's a pity you still can't accept the fact09/07 12:15
→ FireLake: that you got dumped after these years. You're just09/07 12:16
→ FireLake: too proud to admit rejection.09/07 12:16
我前妻耍賴不付小孩撫養費,才是現實。
噓 FireLake: it doesn't matter, it's not really about your ex.09/07 13:03
→ FireLake: it's about you too proud to admit rejection. It's a09/07 13:04
→ FireLake: pity you still can't accept the fact you got dumped09/07 13:04
→ FireLake: after these years.09/07 13:04
因為我前妻賴的不是你的錢,所以你才
説那不重要。
噓 djboy: 妳前妻不付撫養費,是因為你要二個孩子的監護權09/10 09:32
→ djboy: 你把一個孩子給前妻,就沒有這個問題了。09/10 09:33
→ djboy: 別睜眼說瞎話09/10 09:33
→ djboy: 你搶了小孩的監護權,賺了這麼大,還在這邊哭爹叫娘,實在09/10 09:35
→ djboy: 看不下去。覺得我不對的話,覺得有小孩不是最好的,就把09/10 09:36
→ djboy: 一個送回給媽媽啊!09/10 09:36
※ 編輯: Bedlem (101.12.99.163 臺灣), 09/10/2021 10:43:34
噓 FireLake: again, it's not really about your ex. It's about you 09/10 12:38
→ FireLake: not able to accept the fact you got dumped. It's a 09/10 12:39
→ FireLake: pity you're still too proud to admit rejection after 09/10 12:39
→ FireLake: these years. 09/10 12:39
夫妻或男女朋友交往,是相互平等的,
相處不來可以分手,但是沒有誰 dump
誰的問題。我前妻拋棄她對小孩的責任,
以沒錢為藉口拒付小孩撫養費,是她的
問題,不是我的問題。
噓 FireLake: no, it's not always equal in every relation. You got09/10 13:01
→ FireLake: dumped and you're just too proud to admit it. Keep09/10 13:01
→ FireLake: finding excuses to help you avoid reality. It's a09/10 13:02
→ FireLake: pity you still can't admit rejection after years.09/10 13:02
中華民國憲法 第七條:「中華民國人民,
無分男女、宗教、種族、階級、黨派,在
法律上一律平等。」,因此我和我前妻
自然是平等的,你用 dump 這個字眼,就
是有問題的。
真正令人悲哀的,是我前妻拒絕支付小
孩撫養費,沒有盡到她對小孩的撫養照
顧責任。
※ 編輯: Bedlem (101.12.99.163 臺灣), 09/10/2021 13:32:22
噓 FireLake: ha ha, you're really desparated. What's written in09/10 13:34
→ FireLake: constistuion doesn't always reflect reality. Anyway,09/10 13:36
→ FireLake: it must be hard for you to realize this world is not09/10 13:36
→ FireLake: fair and not everything is equal. Keep finding more09/10 13:37
→ FireLake: excuses to help you avoid reality. It's a pity you09/10 13:37
→ FireLake: still can't accept the fact you got dumped nor admit09/10 13:37
→ FireLake: rejection after these years.09/10 13:38
噓 FireLake: it's actually kind of sad you're so desparate that 09/10 13:49
→ FireLake: you use equality in front of law to imply equality 09/10 13:50
→ FireLake: in every relationship. No, not everything is equal 09/10 13:51
→ FireLake: in this workld and it's time for you to man up to 09/10 13:51
→ FireLake: accept you got dumped.09/10 13:51
你可以一直認定我跟我前妻不平等,
所以我是被她 dump 的,但我不用認
同這種想法,我也可以説是我前妻不
負責任,不配待在婚姻中,所以我
dump 了她。悲哀的是,我前妻的一
些親友團,一直不能接受這個事實。
離婚時把自己該承擔的小孩撫養責任
算清楚,互相感謝和祝福對方,做個
相互合作的友善父母才是正道。一直
講誰 dump 誰,不覺得無聊嗎?
噓 FireLake: Again, you can keep pretending this world is an 09/10 22:16
→ FireLake: utopia so you have excuses to not admit rejection. 09/10 22:17
→ FireLake: It's a pity you still can't accept the fact you got 09/10 22:18
→ FireLake: dumped after these years. 09/10 22:18
我想沒有什麼人會接受在夫妻或男女
朋友的關係中,自己的地位比另一方
低。這樣的關係,即使破裂,其實也
沒什麼好可惜的。
噓 FireLake: I guess you finally realize this world is not fair09/11 01:01
→ FireLake: and not everything is equal. Feel free to make more09/11 01:02
世界上當然會有不平等的事情。
但是夫妻或男女朋友的關係不會,因為
關係一旦被一方或雙方認定是不平等的,
夫妻就不會再是夫妻,所以沒有所謂被
dump 之説。
而且人不是物品,是有主動性的,如果
要説是A方 dump B方,那當然也可以説
是B方dump A方。這也體現了夫妻平等,
或者離婚夫妻,也一樣是平等的概念。
所以離婚時不負責任的一方,之所以被
責備或被議論,其實正體現人們追求平
等的天性,是很自然的結果,不足為奇,
也不是什麼悲哀的事。要說悲哀,也是
被拋棄照顧責任的下一代的悲哀。
→ FireLake: excuses so you can avoid reality. You're just too09/11 01:02
→ FireLake: proud to admit rejection. It's really a pity you09/11 01:02
→ FireLake: still can't even acknowledge you got dumped after09/11 01:02
→ FireLake: those years.09/11 01:03
噓 FireLake: Yes, it's not always equal in all relationship, but09/11 09:32
→ FireLake: you can't keep making excuses to not admit rejection09/11 09:32
→ FireLake: it's a pity you're still not able to accept the fact09/11 09:33
→ FireLake: you got dumped after these years.09/11 09:33
→ FireLake: Keep denying your ex asked to divorce you first, you09/11 09:33
→ FireLake: got dumped and you're just too proud to admit it.09/11 09:34
夫妻可以溝通任何事,包括是否要離
婚,因此有人提出離婚,並不代表被
提的人是地位較低下而被 dump 的。
離婚要兩個人都同意,或者法院有判
決才算。事實上,我是因為我前妻耍
賴不肯承擔小孩撫養責任,而同意離
婚的,因為她已經不配待在婚姻中。
真要講 dump,也是我 dump 她才對。
噓 FireLake: Your ex asked for divorce first, you got dumped and 09/11 11:39
→ FireLake: your feeling is hurt. You're just too proud to admit 09/11 11:39
→ FireLake: rejection. It's a pity you refuse to acknowledge you 09/11 11:40
→ FireLake: got dumped after these years. 09/11 11:40
人從嬰兒開始,就會面對各式各樣的
拒絕。我小孩有時也會吵著要求我買
玩具或養寵物,但是我都拒絕了,但
也不能説我是在 dump 小孩。
被提出離婚,只是被拒絕婚姻生活,
和人們會在生活中遇到的各種拒絕,
並沒有本質上的不同。如果你想要婚
姻生活,你可以在 A 拒絕你以後,再
去找 B丶C丶D... 為什麼要把被拒絕,
想像成對方高高在上,然後把你 dump
了下來?這種人的心理,根本就不健
康,連日常的生活和工作,都很難過
的好。
※ 編輯: Bedlem (101.12.98.92 臺灣), 09/15/2021 22:10:21
噓 FireLake: again, keep telling whatever helps you to avoid09/16 00:23
→ FireLake: reality. Your ex asked for divorce first, you got09/16 00:23
→ FireLake: dumped and you're just too proud to admit rejection. 09/16 00:24
→ FireLake: your feeling is so hurt that it's such a pity you 09/16 00:24
→ FireLake: still can't even acknowledge you got dumped after 09/16 00:24
→ FireLake: many years. 09/16 00:24
推 hikaru924: 他已經承認他被拒絕了 看清楚再打英文09/17 12:37
噓 FireLake: Cool!! He finally admited he got rejected and got09/17 13:09
→ FireLake: dumped by his ex after these years.09/17 13:09
每個人都會被拒絕,這沒什麼好大驚
小怪的。至於拋棄,那只是一種主觀
的價值判斷,不一定要認同。夫妻是
平等的,所以真要講拒絕和拋棄,只
能是互相拒絕或拋棄,不能講誰拒絕
或拋棄了誰。
※ 編輯: Bedlem (101.12.98.92 臺灣), 09/17/2021 14:14:49
噓 FireLake: Really happy for you to finally admit you got dumped09/17 14:29
→ FireLake: by your ex after these years. This is a big step for09/17 14:29
→ FireLake: you!09/17 14:29
噓 FireLake: btw, both your friend and you misunderstand the09/17 14:36
→ FireLake: rejection here, it refers to rejection in relation-09/17 14:36
→ FireLake: ship, but anyway, so glad you admit it now and can 09/17 14:37
→ FireLake: face the fact you got dumped by your ex. 09/17 14:38
我前妻拒絕或拋棄的,始終是她對
婚姻的承諾和責任,可不是什麼人。
我女兒要求我養寵物,我拒絕,但
我拒絕的是她養寵物的要求,而不
是我女兒這個人。
脫離了具體事情的語境,把所謂的
人單獨抽離出來講,是沒有意義的。
比如我前妻當然可以聲稱她愛小孩,
可是她不肯付小孩撫養費,為小孩
的成長提供資源,那愛這個字就是
虛的,只是在自欺欺人而已。
※ 編輯: Bedlem (101.12.98.92 臺灣), 09/17/2021 17:16:02
噓 FireLake: Again, you mistand the rejection here refers to 09/17 22:25
→ FireLake: rejection in relationship. It looks like your friend 09/17 22:25
→ FireLake: is wrong and you're still too proud to admit you got 09/17 22:25
→ FireLake: rejected and got dumped. It's such a pity you are 09/17 22:26
→ FireLake: still not able to even acknowledge you got dumped 09/17 22:26
→ FireLake: after these years 09/17 22:26
噓 FireLake: You're trying so hard it's actually kind of sad for 09/17 23:40
→ FireLake: you. You, as a person, got rejected in the relation-09/17 23:40
→ FireLake: ship, totally different to buying a puppy. You're09/17 23:41
→ FireLake: just too hurt to admit you got dumped.09/17 23:41
婚姻不是交男女朋友,還有承諾和責任,
而承諾和責任,是要反求諸己,是對自己
的關係。如果兩個人相處不來,離婚是可
以接受的,但拒付小孩撫養貴,則是我前
妻斷開和「有責任感和信守承諾的她自己」
的關係,陷無辜的小孩於不利中。
如果要講傷心,我傷心的是我前妻的墮落,
以及她在離婚時,所表現的人性黑暗面。
和一個不負責任的人斷開關係,不用有任
何心理負擔。與其説我前妻 dump 了我,
不如説我 dump 了一個不負責任的人。
※ 編輯: Bedlem (118.161.114.57 臺灣), 09/18/2021 08:42:07
噓 FireLake: Keep telling yourself whatever helps you to avoid 09/18 09:19
→ FireLake: reality. Your ex asked for divorce first, you got 09/18 09:19
→ FireLake: dumped. You're just too proud to admit you, as a 09/18 09:20
→ FireLake: person, got rejected in the relationship. It's such 09/18 09:20
→ FireLake: a pity you can't even acknowledge you got dumped 09/18 09:21
→ FireLake: after these years. 09/18 09:21
對離婚有正確的理解,並非逃避現實,
而是認清現實。悲哀的是我前妻,而不
是我。
噓 FireLake: Again, tell whatever you like to hear to yourself.09/18 12:35
→ FireLake: It's a pity you still can't even acknowledge you got09/18 12:35
→ FireLake: dumped after these years.09/18 12:35
重點是對離婚正確的理解和敍述,而不
是誰喜歡聽,或誰不喜歡聽這些。
為什麼被「拋棄」是一件悲哀的事,這
只是因為這件事的主動方,認為被動方
或是與被動方的關係,是沒有價值的,
這才是重點。
1丶但這只是主動方的詮釋。人有沒有
價值,重點是你的自我認同,而不是別
人的想法。
2丶如果是關係的價值,在一方認為沒
價值時,就已經沒有價值了,不用可惜,
也沒有必要悲哀。維持關係是有成本的,
你可以把維持原先這段關係所耗費的資
源,拿去做別的事,或建立更有價值的
新關係。
3丶我前妻在拒付小孩撫養費時,其實
也是認為她對小孩的責任,是沒有價值
的。小孩是無辜的,缺乏資源,小孩長
不好的機會,其實是更大的,這才是這
件事真正悲哀的地方。
噓 FireLake: Feel free to keep avoiding reality. You simply are09/18 13:30
→ FireLake: too proud to admit you, as a person, got rejected in09/18 13:30
→ FireLake: the realationship. You keep blaming others but you-09/18 13:31
→ FireLake: self. It's such a pity that you still fail to even09/18 13:32
→ FireLake: achknowledge the simpl fact that you got dumped09/18 13:33
→ FireLake: after so many years.09/18 13:33
你的説法真可笑,賴掉小孩撫養費的是
我前妻,為什麼我要被責備?
噓 HaireiKei: 自己都養不起了還養小孩,是要感謝啥?要小孩的一方有09/18 19:57
→ HaireiKei: 本事就自己養啦 在那邊哭撫養費真的好笑09/18 19:57
民法第 1116-2 條
父母對於未成年子女之扶養義務,不因
結婚經撤銷或離婚而受影響。
→ HaireiKei: 基本上沒同住就沒什麼感情了09/18 19:58
→ HaireiKei: 只會越看越厭惡09/18 19:59
→ HaireiKei: 那麼愛錢當初不跟有錢人在一起?09/18 20:00
愛錢的是我前妻,因為她賴掉小孩撫養
費。
噓 FireLake: Again, keep making more excuses to avoid reality. 09/18 22:13
→ FireLake: None of the excuses you make matters until you can 09/18 22:14
→ FireLake: acknowledge the simple fact you got dumped. You're 09/18 22:14
→ FireLake: too hurt and too proud to admit that you, as a09/18 22:15
→ FireLake: person, got rejected in the relationship. It's a09/18 22:15
→ FireLake: pity you still can't face the fact you got dumped09/18 22:16
→ FireLake: after these years.09/18 22:16
現實就是,我前妻發揚了人性中黑暗的
一面,把小孩的撫養費賴掉,不是一個
趁職的媽媽。就是因為認知到這一點,
我才決定持續批判她的這種行為。
噓 FireLake: No, the reality is that you got dumped and you're so09/19 09:39
→ FireLake: hurt about it. You're just too proud to admit that09/19 09:39
她拋棄的只是她自己的責任感。
→ FireLake: you, as a person, got dumped in the relationship.09/19 09:40
每個去世的人的親朋好友,都是被
去世的人,自動拋棄掉人際關係的
人。
我前妻只是以另一種型式「去世」
了,這種事每個人都會遇到,沒什
麽好大驚小怪的。莊子喪妻的故事,
或許可以給人們一些啟發。
《莊子》至樂篇云:「莊子妻死,
惠子弔之,莊子則方箕距鼓盆而歌,
惠子曰:『與人居,長子,老,身死,
不哭,亦足矣,又鼓盆而歌,不意甚
乎!』莊子曰:『不然。是其始死也,
我獨何能無慨然!察其始而本無生,
非徒無生也而本無形,非徒無形也而
本無氣。雜乎芒芴之間,變而有氣,
氣變而有形,形變而有生,今又變而
之死,是相與為春秋冬夏四時行也。
人且偃然寢於巨室,而我嗷嗷然隨而
哭之,自以為不通乎命,故止也。』」
→ FireLake: But feel free to make more excuses to avoid reality,09/19 09:40
→ FireLake: none of your excuses matters until you admit you got09/19 09:40
→ FireLake: dumped after these years.09/19 09:41
我前妻只是一個賴掉小孩撫養費,逃
避小孩撫養照顧責任的人。
噓 FireLake: Again, keep making more excuses, all of your excuses09/23 23:25
→ FireLake: just show how hurt you're by getting dumpped. You're09/23 23:26
→ FireLake: just too proud to admit that you, as a person, got09/23 23:26
→ FireLake: rejected in the relationship. It's such a pity you09/23 23:27
→ FireLake: still can't even acknowledge you got dumpped after09/23 23:27
→ FireLake: these years.09/23 23:27
每個去世的人的親朋好友,都是被
去世的人,自動拋棄掉人際關係的
人。我前妻只是以另一種型式
「去世」了,這種事每個人都會
遇到,沒什麽好大驚小怪的。
噓 FireLake: keep side-steping and making up excuses to pretend09/24 07:42
→ FireLake: it's not a big deal when in fact, all your excuses09/24 07:42
→ FireLake: show you're so hurt by being dumpped. It's not about 09/24 07:42
→ FireLake: your ex, it's about you being too proud to admin you 09/24 07:43
→ FireLake: , as a person, got rejected in the relationship. It 09/24 07:43
→ FireLake: is a pity you're still refuse to acknowledge you got09/24 07:43
→ FireLake: dumped after these years.09/24 07:44
即使是父母,也不可能滿足嬰兒的全部
要求,所以每個人從小開始,都會被拒
絕,這沒什麼好大驚小怪的。而別人拒
絕你,你做為一個主體,當然也可以拒
絕別人,這是相對的,如果只能是別人
「拋棄」你,而不準是你拋棄或拒絕對
方,或者只是雙方無法達成共識,那不
是很可笑嗎?
我前妻賴掉小孩撫養費,受傷的是她自
己,我是憐憫她,以及那些想效法她,
好逃避對小孩責任的父母,走上人生的
歪路,才苦口婆心宣揚正確的人生選擇。
噓 FireLake: Keep making more excuses, all your excuses just show 09/24 14:02
→ FireLake: you're really hurt by getting dumped. Feel free to 09/24 14:03
→ FireLake: keep pretending it's not a big deal when in fact you 09/24 14:03
→ FireLake: keep side stepping and are just too proud to admit 09/24 14:04
→ FireLake: you got dumped. It's such a pity you still refuse to 09/24 14:04
→ FireLake: even acknowledge the fact you got dumped after years 09/24 14:04
噓 FireLake: You, as a person, got rejected in the relationship, 09/24 14:19
→ FireLake: totally different to rejecting a request. Read again09/24 14:20
→ FireLake: , you, as a person, got dumped.09/24 14:20
我前妻是拒絕了婚姻關係,但因為她
賴掉小孩撫養費,所以她自動建構了
和我們這邊的「債務人/債權人」關
係,這個是她拒絕不了,拋棄不了,
甚至可以説是主動攤上的。她不想用
錢來還債,就只能用名譽和其他非物
質的東西,來償還她造下的孽債了。
※ 編輯: Bedlem (118.161.164.146 臺灣), 09/25/2021 09:20:35
噓 FireLake: Again, keep side-stepping, it's not about your ex,09/25 10:32
→ FireLake: it's about you're so hurt by getting dumped. You, as09/25 10:32
→ FireLake: a person, got rejected in the relationship and you09/25 10:33
→ FireLake: are too proud to admit it. Feel free to make more09/25 10:33
→ FireLake: excuses, it's such a pity you still can't even 09/25 10:34
→ FireLake: acknowledge you got dumped after these years. 09/25 10:35
我前妻拋棄的,是她自己的責任。至
於她傷害別人,不是因為她拋棄所謂
的什麼關係,而是她賴債不付小孩撫
養費,把自己該承擔的責任,強加在
別人身上,這才是事件的本質。
※ 編輯: Bedlem (49.216.179.253 臺灣), 09/27/2021 08:17:01
噓 FireLake: No, the reality is that you're so hurt by getting 09/27 10:29
→ FireLake: dumped and you're too proud to admit it. It's not 09/27 10:29
→ FireLake: about your ex, it's about you, as a person, got 09/27 10:30
→ FireLake: rejected in the relationship and you just can't 09/27 10:30
→ FireLake: stand it. Keep side stepping to avoid the reality. 09/27 10:30
→ FireLake: it's such a pity you're still not able to face the 09/27 10:31
→ FireLake: fact you got dumped ater these years. 09/27 10:31
噓 semind: 講人的壞話也是會做孽,更何況你前妻的孽是你一手造下的 07/25 15:13
→ semind: 離婚時前妻不是沒給其他條件,你寧願選擇她不用付錢的條件 07/25 15:14
→ semind: 代表前妻現在造的孽,你也要分一半。還有講人壞話的孽 07/25 15:14
→ semind: 你在板上給越多人看到,這造孽就造得越深 07/25 15:14
→ semind: 你又再講給你的小孩聽,讓小孩恨自己的母親 07/25 15:15
→ semind: 小孩也開始累積他的孽緣。 07/25 15:15
→ semind: 只有你放下仇恨,接受自己的失敗並用健康的心承擔這失敗 07/25 15:16
→ semind: 這一切的冤孽才會終止 07/25 15:16