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大家好, 想請問下面這句: You can collect the ticket up to 3 days before the show-don't leave it too late. 意思是 1. 表演前三天要取完票 or 2. 表演前三天才開始取票? 謝謝大家 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 109.84.2.245 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Eng-Class/M.1461776888.A.78C.html
priv: 是期限 04/28 02:20
Tomwelcome: 我覺得文法上兩個解釋都有可能,但2.不合常理,沒有 04/28 02:48
Tomwelcome: 票這麼晚才開始取的。再加上它都提醒你不要太晚取票了 04/28 02:48
Tomwelcome: ,所以應該是1。 04/28 02:48
CookieNCream: 是2 04/28 05:54
Tomwelcome: 如果把up to解釋成up until那就會是1. 04/28 06:26
CookieNCream: yeah i think you're right! 04/28 06:38
kaichien517: 謝謝大家,看來兩種都有可能?但兩者差好多啊><還是 04/28 19:24
kaichien517: 謝謝大家!我覺得T說的滿有道理的,但這個取票 04/28 19:34
kaichien517: 方案是給外國人,因此我覺得2也是滿有可能的 04/28 19:34
priv: up to 是 limit or boundary 04/28 19:51
priv: 我會覺得方向性不可能是從表演當天當起點往前算到第三天截止 04/28 19:52
priv: 所以說文法都可以,我不同意。 04/28 19:53
priv: 描述時間性方向性不會是用倒流的 04/28 19:53
kaichien517: 所以priv也覺得應該是1囉? 04/28 19:59
Tomwelcome: Up to 本身應該沒有方向性,方向是 before 賜予的, 04/28 20:53
Tomwelcome: 所以我還是認為文法上兩者皆通。 04/28 20:53
Tomwelcome: understanding-ovulation 04/28 20:53
Tomwelcome: (抱歉我不會縮網址)請參考這篇文章的最後一段,其 04/28 20:57
Tomwelcome: 中有一句“ If you have intercourse up to 3 days be 04/28 20:57
Tomwelcome: fore ovulation, those sperm can still be viable an 04/28 20:57
Tomwelcome: d capable of fertilising the egg.”。從前後文可以 04/28 20:57
Tomwelcome: 判斷,這邊的 up to 就是 no more than 而不是 up unt 04/28 20:57
Tomwelcome: il 的意思。 04/28 20:57
tacada: 在跟時間有關的句子中,"up to" 的確有可能被解釋為 "up 04/29 18:34
tacada: until",不過若當 "up until" 解的話,跟在其後的應會是 04/29 18:34
tacada: "a particular/specific point in time or the event 04/29 18:34
tacada: mentioned",我們來看看「朗文英語聯想活用辭典」對此的 04/29 18:34
tacada: 說明:〝If something happens 'up until' or 'up to' a 04/29 18:34
tacada: particular time, date etc, it happens continuously 04/29 18:34
tacada: before that time but no longer happens after that 04/29 18:34
tacada: time.〞,例句: She continued to write poetry, up to 04/29 18:34
tacada: the day she died.; 而 "up to" 在跟時間有關的句子中當 04/29 18:34
tacada: "not more than" 解釋時,跟在其後的通常會是 a general 04/29 18:34
tacada: term covering a span of time 04/29 18:34
tacada: CCALD 8th對此的說明為: amount "You use 'up to' to 04/29 18:34
tacada: say how large something can be or what level it has 04/29 18:34
tacada: reached.", 例句: It could be up to two years before 04/29 18:34
tacada: the process is complete. 04/29 18:34
tacada: LDOCE 對此的說明為: "as much or as many as a certain 04/29 18:34
tacada: amount or number but not more",例句: a process that 04/29 18:34
tacada: can take anything up to ten days 04/29 18:34
tacada: ODE對此的說明為: "indicating a maximum amount",例句: 04/29 18:34
tacada: the process is expected to take up to two years 04/29 18:34
tacada: 04/29 18:34
tacada: 因此,綜上所述,若原po這句話要做1.來解釋的話,它長的 04/29 18:34
tacada: 應該會像下面這兩個網頁中有出現 "up to" 的句子,節錄其 04/29 18:34
tacada: 中一句: "Currently, such alterations may only be made 04/29 18:34
tacada: up to the fifth day before the day of poll." 04/29 18:34
tacada: 04/29 18:34
tacada: 參考網址: 1. http://tinyurl.com/jmeeps3 (最下面兩句) 04/29 18:34
tacada: 2. http://tinyurl.com/zk8grqa (第74點的最後一句話) 04/29 18:34
tacada: (P.S. 皆為政府網站,一為美國、一為英國) 04/29 18:34
kaichien517: 謝謝大家的回答,和各種參考網站和例句!感謝! 05/02 05:11