Re: [爆卦] Claude抄襲中國AI

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美國廢物就很噁心整天在那邊作賊喊捉賊

deepseek之前論文公開怎樣用蒸餾訓練小
模型後各家本來就是互相抄，因為有時候
AI能問出的訓練資料比你自己去找的品質
不夠好的資料還好

更別說美國那些封閉模型當初訓練資料還
不都是上各個網站偷來的，自己用偷的資
料訓練出的模型被蒸餾不就以彼之道還施
彼身而已，還有臉在那邊靠北靠母，這臉
皮實在夠厚

阿里巴巴9成不會去哭說美國抄他模型，
因為這就是既幼稚又無恥的論述。只有美
國那些巨嬰科技巨頭愛政治化借題發揮，
想騙政客去設各種禁令幫他們築牆而已


※ 引述《Sidney0503 (Sidney0503)》之銘言：
: 簡單說 claude 回答說自己是千問  這個迴力鏢就跟我們偉大的黨一樣
: https://www.tipranks.com/news/anthropic-faces-distillation-hypocrisy-backlash-as-claude-claims-to-be-alibabas-qwen-ai
: Anthropic Faces Distillation Hypocrisy Backlash as Claude Claims to Be Alibaba
: ’s Qwen AI
: Story Highlights
: Anthropic has been accused by developers of distilling Alibaba’s Qwen AI
: model.
: The controversial claims come after developers found a Claude AI model
: identifying itself as Qwen.
: Anthropic Faces Distillation Hypocrisy Backlash as Claude Claims to Be Alibaba
: ’s Qwen AI
: Anthropic is facing severe backlash from developers who claim the U.S.-based
: AI firm trained its models on Chinese AI systems. Developers say that Claude
: Opus 4.8 identified itself as Qwen, the open-source AI model designed by
: Chinese tech giant Alibaba BABA -1.97% ▼ , during language tests.
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: The reports have sparked fresh debate on X, just weeks after Anthropic
: accused Alibaba of carrying out its biggest distillation attack against
: Claude so far.
: Claude’s Chinese Answers Spark Anthropic Distillation Accusations
: Claude Opus 4.8 is facing criticism after developers found it named itself “
: Qwen” when questioned in Chinese. Screenshots of the exchange spread fast
: across X, Reddit and the Chinese developer forum V2EX.
: “Looks like @AnthropicAI may have done a little distillation for Opus 4.8…
: from Qwen, no less,” Mark Kretschmann, an AI and software engineer, said.
: Another developer also said Claude’s Qwen response came up after just three
: prompts, with no special settings involved. Commenters also piled on quickly,
: calling the timing “embarrassing” given Anthropic’s own history of
: accusing Chinese labs of copying Claude.
: Other posts argued the episode proves “every accusation is a confession.”
: Meanwhile, some Claude testers noted that the Qwen response appeared mainly
: in raw API tests, where system prompts are less strict than on the web
: version.
: Adding to the controversy, another post claimed that Claude was introducing
: itself not only as Qwen but also as DeepSeek, a leading Chinese AI company.
: The latest findings appear to have disappointed many users even as some
: question the validity of the accusations.
: So far, neither Anthropic nor Alibaba has commented on the recent reports.
: Anthropic’s Distillation Claims Against Alibaba Resurface
: The latest controversy follows a letter Anthropic sent the U.S. Senate
: Banking Committee on June 10, 2026. In it, the company accused operators tied
: to Alibaba’s Gwen Lab of running its largest distillation attack on Claude
: yet.
: Anthropic also claimed that roughly 25,000 fraudulent accounts produced more
: than 28.8 million exchanges with Claude between April 22 and June 5. The AI
: firm further alleged that the Chinese government may have been involved in
: these attacks, a claim Alibaba has promptly denied.
: The letter further said Alibaba’s alleged distillation campaign targeted
: Claude’s coding, reasoning and cybersecurity skills. These are the same
: capabilities built into Anthropic’s most advanced AI model, Mythos.
: However, as similar distillation claims are now being made against Anthropic,
: many developers are pointing out the irony of the Claude creator’s own
: playbook catching up with it.

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