作者kairiyu (E N O U G H is enough)
看板Jeremy_Lin
標題[外絮] Lin是個角色球員,其實這也不錯!
時間Wed Mar 23 13:10:08 2016
Jeremy Lin is a role player, and that's OK
Lin是個角色球員,其實這也不錯!
http://goo.gl/Rhg80V
【文長,看到篇關於林的定位的外絮,覺得不錯,在此翻譯分享,若有任何錯誤或需要更
正的地方請不吝指教!】
Jeremy Lin exploded on Monday night, scoring 29 points in 31 minutes to lead
the Charlotte Hornets all the way back from a seven-point first quarter and a
23-point deficit to stun a San Antonio Spurs team just two nights removed
from beating the defending NBA champion Golden State Warriors. He made 11 of
his 18 shots, including all four of his 3-point tries, and poured in 15 in
the fourth quarter alone, nearly outscoring Gregg Popovich's crew by himself
in the final 12 minutes. He was amazing in a fashion that reminded viewers of
the 2012 breakthrough that made "Linsanity" a household term; it was really
cool to watch.
林前晚爆炸性的演出,上場31分鐘得了29分並帶領球隊從首節只得7分、落後23分的困境
中逆勢擊敗上一場才打敗聯盟冠軍勇士隊的馬刺。包括三分線4次出手全進,全場出手18中
11、在決勝第四節灌進15分,在比賽最後12分鐘幾乎是靠他從波波手上扳回一城。讓人不
禁回想起「Linsanity」這個單字,真的挺酷的!
Here's what I wrote when I shared the post I wrote about Lin's performance
and Charlotte's win on the Ball Don't Lie Facebook page: "Jeremy Lin has
settled into life as a role player, but on Monday night, the Charlotte
Hornets needed him to play like a star to author a historic comeback against
the San Antonio Spurs ... and he did just that." That teaser copy prompted a
rebuke from a commenter who called it a "very stupid statement" to suggest
that Lin has "settled into life as a role player," arguing that the former
Warriors, New York Knicks, Houston Rockets and Los Angeles Lakers guard
remains one of the league's most effective pick-and-roll operators, and that
he has played at an All-Star level when he's gotten the opportunity to take
over for Kemba Walker and dominate the ball for Steve Clifford's club.
在此之前筆者在臉書上發表「林被定位成角色球員,但這晚,黃蜂隊希望他能打得像
明星球員去完成對馬刺對歷史級的逆轉勝,而他做到了。」時,有位鄉民很快的也貼上了
之前一位評論家的意見:「把林定位成角色球員是很愚蠢的!」,並且質疑勇士尼克火箭
湖人沒有留下聯盟頂尖的檔拆執行者,而讓林抓住了機會去Clifford旗下以全明星的層級
輔佐天行者。
Here's the thing, though: Both of those statements can be true. We don't have
to view the term "role player" as an insult.
是這樣的,兩種定位都可能是真的,但也不用把被定位成「角色球員」當作是一種恥辱。
Lin's overall production for the Hornets this season doesn't necessarily leap
off the page. He's averaging about 12 points, three rebounds and three
assists in 26 minutes per game, posting his worst shooting percentage since
his 2012 breakout and making a subpar 33.5 percent of his 3s, and assisting
on a lower share of his teammates' shots than ever. He's been closer to
average than elite in the pick-and-roll, ranking 60th in points per
possession among 112 players who have finished at least 100 plays as a
screen-game ball-handler, according to Synergy Sports Technology's
game-charting data. In some respects, he's having a pretty similar season to
the one that went largely unremarked upon last year in Los Angeles.
林目前在黃蜂的成績可能還沒有非常亮眼,26分鐘內場均約12分3籃板3助攻,但是三分命
中率33.5%卻是從他成名以來最低的成績、助攻也比以往來的少。另一方面據報導,他的擋
拆成績算是接近前段班的,在112名起碼完成100次擋拆且球隊有得分的控球者中排名第60
位。在某些方面表現得跟上季在湖人陣中差不多。
A lot of that's due to the context in which he's playing, though. Lin's
working off the ball more than he has in his NBA career, spending nearly
two-thirds of his minutes at shooting guard, according to
Basketball-Reference.com's positional breakdowns. Lin has spent the bulk of
that off-guard time — 1,004 of his 1,737 total minutes this season —
alongside Walker, giving Clifford a backcourt in which both guards can
handle the ball, run pick-and-roll, get to the basket, space the floor,
create off the bounce and get to the foul line.
很大方面是因為他的比賽方式,據統計,本季林空手的時間比生涯平均高、場上幾乎有三
分之二的時間處於沒有持球的得分後衛模式(1004/1737分鐘)。讓教練可以安排他搭配天
行者一同在場上處理球、跑檔拆、切入、清出空間、急停出手、站上罰球線。
The results have been damn good, with Charlotte's offense humming a tick
above its season average in Walker-Lin minutes (104.6 points per 100
possessions, compared to to 104.3 points-per-100) while outscoring opponents
by a strong 4.7-per-100, equivalent to the Toronto Raptors'
fifth-best-in-the-NBA full-season net rating. In those minutes, though,
Walker's the clear primary operator.
結果真是他X的好!他們兩同時在場時黃蜂每100次球權可以得104.6分(球隊平均104.3分)
,每100次球權比對手多4.7分,跟目前戰績排名第五的多倫多暴龍差不多。不過,兩人同
時在場時,大多是由天行者處理球權。
The UConn product has commandeered 225 more plays than Lin in their shared
minutes and finished nearly 28 percent of Charlotte's possessions with a
field-goal attempt, foul drawn or turnover committed, compared to a "usage
rate" of just over 19 percent for Lin, according to NBAwowy.com. While roles
can shift and evolve over the course of a possession, by and large, in that
alignment, Kemba's the point man and Jeremy's working the wing.
When Lin's on the floor without Walker, though, that's when he gets more of
an opportunity to create ... and, by and large, he's done quite a bit with it.
天行者在兩人一起在場上時的出手、站上罰球線和失誤收尾比林多了225次,以百分比來
看是28%比19%。大致來說,天行者是球隊重點而林是在旁協助。當只有林在場時,他才有
更多機會創造發揮。
His usage rate spikes to 27.2 percent, according to NBAwowy, and he averages
about 3 1/2 more field-goal attempts and two more 3-point tries per 36
minutes of non-Kemba floor time, per NBA.com's stat tool. His field-goal and
3-point accuracy have jumped by about 4 percent when he's running the show,
and his statistical production — 19.2 points, 5.2 assists and 4.3 rebounds
per-36 without Walker — would put him in pretty impressive company. Only 11
players this season are averaging at least 19-5-4 per-36, including All-Stars
Stephen Curry, Russell Westbrook, Kyle Lowry, LeBron James, Chris Paul, James
Harden, John Wall and Dwyane Wade.
據統計,天行者不在場時,林每40分鐘的進攻回合(usage rate)是27.2%、每36分鐘多3.5
次出手、2次的三分線出手,兩分和三分的命中率多4%。如果是用另一個統計數據來看更驚
人,天行者不在場上時林每36分鐘的數據是19.2分5.2助攻4.3籃板,聯盟當中只有11個全
明星有這樣的身手包括Curry、西河、羅莉、姆斯、船長、哈登、牆哥和Wade。
One of those 11, though, is Walker, who has largely carried Charlotte's
offense since the All-Star break and who, by just about any objective
measure, has been the more productive player this season. The prioritization
of Walker over Lin in the Hornets' structure is not a misappropriation of
resources; it's an earned hierarchy, entirely justified by what the two
players have done on the court this season.
11個當中還有一個是天行者,明星賽後他帶領黃蜂的進攻端並且在這季成為一個非常有效
率的球員。黃蜂以天行者為優先考量,純粹只是以他們兩人本季在場上的表現做出抉擇。
And that's no slam on Lin, whose ability to act as a source of instant
offense off the pine will likely earn him some Sixth Man of the Year
consideration. If anything, it only highlights the significant step forward
Walker has taken as a shooter and overall offensive force, which has been one
of the most significant contributing factors to the Hornets' rise from the
lottery to a 40-30 mark that has them fighting for home-court advantage in
the opening round of the playoffs and hoping to make some noise thereafter.
不過,林本季目前的表現也讓他有機會角逐年度最佳第六人。不論如何,天行者本季在進
攻端的優異亮點,的確是讓黃蜂從樂透區晉升為目前戰績40勝並且企圖在季後賽首輪取得
主場優勢的最大因素,也將會在往後吸引更多的關注聲音。
What we have, then, is a player who's capable of working within a team
concept that doesn't include him being the primary playmaker and offensive
focal point, but who can also do damage while running the show against
opposing second units and — as he showed on Monday night against the Spurs —
who can act as a top gun for stretches when circumstances require it. We
have a player who understands his place in the team's pecking order and who
contributes within it, who isn't called on to carry the load on a nightly
basis but who executes his responsibilities consistently and effectively.
That's a role player! There's nothing wrong or dirty about that.
我們現在看到的是,一個在球隊一哥在場上時可以從旁協助、需要他發揮時也能具有威脅
性、前晚對馬刺當球隊需要他表現時他也立即有所回應的球員,也清楚自己在球隊的定位
並很稱職的扮演好自己的角色,雖然不是每晚都被要求帶領球隊但是可以持續地有效率地
做出貢獻。這就叫做角色球員!這沒有甚麼不好的地方!
In the context of the Charlotte Hornets, Walker is the top dog, the primary
scoring threat and top ball-handler; Nicolas Batum is the jack-of-all-trades
secondary scorer and distributor; and everybody else is skating their lane,
filling their niche, and looking to give the club whatever it needs on a
night-to-night basis. Most of the time, all Charlotte needs from Lin is for
him to be part of the larger playmaking and shot-creating whole, and unlike
in Houston and L.A., this team and this coach seem to understand how best to
maximize his contributions within that specific definition. That he's still
capable of getting everything flowing and hanging 29 on the best defense in
the league is a wonderful bonus, but it's not something Clifford, general
manager Rich Cho and owner Michael Jordan count on. That's what separates
stars from role players, and there's absolutely nothing wrong with being the
latter.
對黃蜂來說,天行者依舊是得分首選,Batum是第二選擇,其他人則是視每晚狀況針對他們
的功能性發揮作用。跟火箭和湖人不同的是,黃蜂需要林做的事情是和隊友一起參予進攻
和創造出手機會的一部分,黃蜂知道怎麼樣把林的貢獻最大化。林在面對聯盟最強馬刺防
守下還是用各種手段得了29分,不過這不是教練Clifford、總管Rich Cho和老闆喬丹所指
望可以持續的。這就是明星球員與角色球員的不同,但當後者也絕對沒有甚麼不好!
心得:個人也認為只要林在黃蜂有穩定表現,就算不是明星級球員也很好阿!
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推 Sheng1025: 謝謝翻譯分享 03/23 13:13
推 wedjkl789: 翻譯辛苦推 03/23 13:13
推 kuloda: 人總是要往天花板去邁進 03/23 13:15
推 bhmok: 當打的就這幾年 不希望過幾年速度慢了回首唏噓 03/23 13:16
推 ghostxx: 感謝翻譯 03/23 13:17
→ casman: 感謝翻譯 03/23 13:18
推 Gilbertsky: 推翻譯 離開黃蜂這個OK的地方是要冒點風險 看林怎麼想 03/23 13:19
→ Gilbertsky: 林迷一定是希望追求林的能力最大化 黃蜂可以當成退路 03/23 13:21
推 natsuki123: 感謝翻譯 03/23 13:23
→ jcchiou: 黃蜂算很會用Lin的 03/23 13:26
推 timocijeng: 最後一句是說能對全聯盟防守做強的球隊拿 03/23 13:27
→ timocijeng: 下29分 03/23 13:27
→ timocijeng: *最強(指馬刺) 03/23 13:27
感謝!原來如此!一直不知道29指的是甚麼!
推 djviva: 感謝翻譯, 希望林能一直打的開心 03/23 13:28
※ 編輯: kairiyu (220.136.85.157), 03/23/2016 13:32:27
推 downtoearth: 有誰能說MANU不是個好球員? 當MANU有甚麼不好 03/23 13:33
推 eileen86: 感謝翻譯 03/23 13:35
推 bhmok: Manu應該擁有他的戰術地位和出手權的 這點林遠遠不及 03/23 13:40
推 conqueror507: 只要教練不要惡搞Lin,他完全可以離開的,文中也指 03/23 13:41
→ conqueror507: 出Lin有球時,數據跟表現是相當頂級的 03/23 13:41
→ conqueror507: 所以關鍵還是使用的方法 03/23 13:41
推 deliciou70: 火箭雖然上場時間比較多 但大部分都是在折返跑 03/23 13:49
推 Gilbertsky: 馬刺跟其他球隊最大的不同是人人都能碰到球 這學不來 03/23 13:52
推 casman: 場外因素也是啊, 在黃蜂有誰叫林領繩過了? 誰欺負過林? 03/23 13:53
推 Gilbertsky: 如果馬刺要簽林當作鬼禿用場均上20分鐘 我100%支持 03/23 13:55
推 lisunlo: 翻譯推 03/23 14:18
推 attdave: 前提是POPO還在啊...... 03/23 14:20
推 JerrySloan: Manu是馬刺最後一擊的球員 Lin只有尼克時期可以這樣 03/23 14:29
推 Aquatics: 推 03/23 14:29
推 XD051: 認真問,林今年拿到第六人的機率有多高? 03/23 14:45
推 casman: 接下來的比賽拿七八場20分就有機會 03/23 14:48
推 gm79227922: 不高就是 03/23 14:48
推 Gilbertsky: 最佳第六人可以參考Will Barton的成績 大約要這個水準 03/23 14:56
推 yoshro: 蹲低是為了跳高 他有好表現自然有人捧銀子上門拉人 03/23 14:59
推 kuloda: 有時候看機緣 去年簽這約很棒 今年的確是機會比較好的一年 03/23 15:02
→ kuloda: 這約一堆人罵 可是今年後身價會比去年湖人後更容易被認同 03/23 15:03
→ kuloda: 再來今年控衛自由球員不多 但是缺先發跟替補控衛的隊變多 03/23 15:04
推 b551122: 謝謝翻譯!! 03/23 15:20
推 rod007: 今年Lin給人印象深刻的比賽比在湖人多 03/23 15:30
推 waiting0801: 推推推 03/23 15:53
推 simata: 林打的開心就好:) 03/23 15:57
→ asd250: 還是希望能有球權,全隊同心能打進季後賽,來兩三個好柱子 03/23 16:16
→ asd250: 跟跳跳人今年空接少到我都快哭了 03/23 16:16
推 zero4: 贊成 03/23 16:24
推 nsmmsn: ! 03/23 16:43
→ BadGame: 說林沒有商業價值.. 結果賣票 喬神簽的幾個中國廣告商 03/23 16:46
→ BadGame: 加上.. 賽後還要單獨開 見面會... 連客場都要 囧 03/23 16:47
推 handlesome: 推翻譯 03/23 17:08
推 stygianX: 不知道有沒有窩可在(有LIN)和(沒有LIN)的時候的數據比較 03/23 17:20
推 finocoundown: 推 03/23 17:33
推 leehow0621: 推翻譯 03/23 17:38
推 boyd1014: 角色:他可以當主角也可以當配角~~讚啦! 03/23 17:39
推 p800917: 推辛苦翻譯 03/23 18:25
推 NgJovi: 好文 推推 感謝翻譯 03/23 18:43
推 lion500: 去有先發的球隊! 03/23 19:18
→ jcchiou: 能打30分鐘的球隊比較重要吧 03/23 19:37
推 iEisen: 幹嘛一定要翻成天行者,走路人也可以啊! 03/23 19:41
推 lion500: 我覺得林還是打控球最能發揮他的天賦,但願能有當家主控 03/23 20:35
推 balanokia: 當角色球員太浪費傳球天賦了 03/23 20:45
推 CC97: 贏馬刺時那場lin是以角色球員在打嗎?一篇此地無銀三百兩的文 03/23 20:55
推 sodes72: 謝謝翻譯 03/23 20:57
推 CC97: 看完的感覺就是 "對,打贏馬剌好棒棒,但別忘了你是角色球員" 03/23 20:59
推 gidapops: 看完文章心得:color 03/23 21:20
→ gidapops: 打鐵叫做鐵路人 03/23 21:21
推 daisyyeh: 青春有限,希望下季首選能先發的球隊,但黃蜂給不了 03/23 21:23
推 CYBERPUNK: manu真的是很特別的存在 我覺得lin雖然還不能跟他比 但 03/23 21:39
→ CYBERPUNK: 他們類似的地方 就是能夠改變球賽的流向 03/23 21:39
推 boyd1014: Lin 真。逆風球 03/23 21:46
推 JBGPOIU: 推 03/23 22:32
推 magamanzero: Lin跟Manu很像 除了身體天賦不一樣以外... 03/24 00:01
→ magamanzero: 他們都擅長突破對方防守的漏洞 而不是是去製造漏洞 03/24 00:02
→ magamanzero: 依靠戰術和隊友的幫助 很容易利用自身的切入撕裂防守 03/24 00:03
→ magamanzero: 不過身體的天賦差異 決定了finish的容易程度... 03/24 00:04
→ magamanzero: 很多Manu能輕鬆放進的球 Lin還要繞過籃框反向上籃 03/24 00:04
→ qazxswptt: Lin確實在finish上面比較辛苦 不過他其他部份練的彌補 03/24 00:07
→ qazxswptt: 不少 他有的視野 啟動速度 就是別人不容易有的武器 03/24 00:08
→ jojozyzy: 下面一堆留言寫 JLin is NOT a role player, 以他的成績 03/24 00:30
→ jojozyzy: 根本不該只是 role player 03/24 00:31
推 bhmok: 以林的天賦 真的不該侷限自已在角色球員 他已一再證明他可 03/24 00:36
→ bhmok: 以帶領球隊前進 03/24 00:36
→ jojozyzy: 留甚至還用stupid passive aggressive來形容這文章 03/24 00:37
推 magamanzero: 考慮長遠 還是當腳色球員好 血統限制就是在那 03/24 00:44
→ magamanzero: 一場打個20-30 B2B好好休息 才能走得長遠 03/24 00:44
→ jojozyzy: 難道先發就不能長遠?還有lin的體能比的過大半球員 03/24 00:49
→ jojozyzy: 一個28Y有這種數據的球員就該追求先發,而非角色球員 03/24 00:50
→ magamanzero: 體力只是一個微小的因素...東方人身體素質就那樣 03/24 00:57
→ magamanzero: 像是運動傷害的恢復 疲勞的累積 各種身體機能相關 03/24 00:57
→ magamanzero: 尤其是B2B這種會傷害身體的 還是少打為妙 03/24 00:58
→ GIE13: 才28歲就別想著打老人球 先發才是價值的體現 03/24 00:59
推 lvpsa: 唉.. 不管怎說以支持者的角度還是希望有朝一日成為明星球員 03/24 02:25
推 starcry: 扣掉勇士菜鳥年 這季在籃下的命中率是生涯次差 03/24 03:37
→ starcry: 林體能(爆發力)上的天賦 在控衛中是相對不出色 在對抗 03/24 03:39
→ starcry: 後的出手是一定吃虧 找林跟其他明星PG的高光來比較就能知 03/24 03:40
→ starcry: 道了 力道跟延展性都有落差 能善用速度對他就已經很棒了 03/24 03:42
→ starcry: 而這方面只會隨年紀愈來愈衰退 要期待他能繼續向上突破 03/24 03:43
→ starcry: 加強運球 投籃 還有掌控球的慾望才是解答 但林似乎很享受 03/24 03:44
→ starcry: 做為球隊一環 不求個人表現的現況就是了 03/24 03:46
推 goury: 從Lin之前的發言來看,覺得他是"被"享受不求個人表現的現況 03/24 03:51
→ goury: 因為前三季遭受的挫折,讓他不得不調適自己心態來接受現況 03/24 03:52
推 gm79227922: 以對抗性來說 林不差了 最大問題還是投籃穩定度 03/24 04:19
→ gm79227922: 這三場 投籃恢復 就有林來瘋時的表現 03/24 04:19
推 boyd1014: 一晃眼28歲了,唉總覺得BS要賠他錢 03/24 05:58
推 uuilee: 最大問題還是nba的認同 03/24 07:17
→ uuilee: 還記得 他哈佛籃球教練說的話嗎 03/24 07:17
→ uuilee: 林書豪nba成功需要一個以他為lead的球隊 03/24 07:19
→ uuilee: 可惜現今種族主義下這不可能 最接近應該是林來瘋那時期 03/24 07:20
推 uuilee: 他的球技最強是他無私之心 及團結之力及聰明團隊籃球 03/24 07:23
→ uuilee: 不過這幾年他球技也被磨到有一定程度了 03/24 07:23
推 uuilee: 誠心希望他能夠跟mda在合體 因為丹東尼 感覺是個最有個性 03/24 07:27
→ uuilee: 教練能不耍大牌球星 03/24 07:27
推 kuloda: 機運問題 尼克受傷 火箭遇鬍子高USG 湖人BS 黃蜂Walker 03/24 08:11
→ kuloda: 真正完整先發打過PG就火箭第一年 雖有鬍子 數據也還可 03/24 08:12
推 kuloda: 黃蜂蠻不錯 只是剛好球隊一哥就是PG 又很矮防守劣勢 03/24 08:15
→ kuloda: 今年Lin好幾場先發 都打得很不錯 但實在很不容易有這機會 03/24 08:16
推 ChrisPaul03: 14分6助攻 不到頂尖但也是合格的先發PG 03/24 08:53
→ ChrisPaul03: 哪有什麼先發未滿的道理 03/24 08:54
推 mamimi: 覺得這篇文章就是整個NBA對林的定位,替補以上先發以下, 03/24 08:57
→ mamimi: 打得很好“偶爾”還可以充當救世主的角色球員... 03/24 08:57
這個定位在去年簽約時
運動畫刊有做過幾位球員的定位分析
其中一位是林
「2015 NBA free agency: Best bargains]
(不知為何這網址不能縮網址 網址太長 有興趣可以GOOGLE上面標題)
FAQ uses a player’s 2014-15 PER, career PER, 2014-15 Win Shares and age to project his future value.
Here’s a quick review of the FAQ scale, which roughly ranges from 0-100:
100 = Strong MVP candidate
90 = Weak MVP candidate
80 = Superstar
70 = Bona fide All-Star
60 = Borderline All-Star
50 = Above-average starter
40 = Solid starter
30 = Valued rotation member
20 = Decent role player
10 = Bench player
0 = D-League All-Star
Jeremy Lin, Hornets
Contract details:Two years,$4 million
(16th cheapest in average annual value among free agents)
Free Agent Quotient: 33.9
(40th among free agents)
文中指出這份合約的確是讓許多專家非常驚訝
不過個人覺得現在回頭看林的這個選擇也不見得不好
套句樓上推文的話 「蹲低是為了跳更高」
推 popstan: 推 03/24 09:20
推 nancyh: 能有更好的發展或到有很好戰術地位的理想球隊是最好 但 無 03/24 09:23
→ nancyh: 論是先發還是替補 都希望Lin能保有捨我其誰的那股氣! 03/24 09:24
→ nancyh: 且 有很強而有力的經紀團隊運作 有時也很重要 不然這職場 03/24 09:26
→ nancyh: 印象派的ㄧ堆 = = 03/24 09:26
推 downtoearth: 沒辦法,剛好遇到大後衛時代 第一或第二得分手 03/24 09:45
→ downtoearth: 就是後衛的球隊 太普遍了... 03/24 09:46
推 eileen86: 後衛這位置太競爭了 03/24 10:12
※ 編輯: kairiyu (220.136.86.241), 03/24/2016 14:07:31
推 ytre5896: 推 03/24 15:46
推 donnylee: 推uu大說的,nba不會給林先發這個機會的 03/24 23:19
推 muller: 亞裔在美工作就是會被刻意壓抑,再跟你說其實這也不錯 03/25 02:51
→ satheni: 林打不了先發跟現在一堆當家球星都搶球權比較有關吧... 03/25 07:00
→ satheni: 而且要打造一個以林為主的球隊,要塞一些角色球員 03/25 07:03
→ satheni: 這樣子明星球員少,球隊就不賺錢了... 03/25 07:04
→ satheni: 就算能賺錢,也不保證林能打多久,後面倒掉重建也是問題 03/25 07:05
→ Peaks3000: 現在抱腿文化盛行 星度集中在幾隊 各隊球星的星度黯淡 03/25 09:31
→ Peaks3000: 光比人氣跟炒作 根本不用擔心 林待的隊 明星少 一堆明 03/25 09:33
→ Peaks3000: 星賽票選輸林輸那麼多的.....況且一直以來也不是每隊都 03/25 09:34
→ Peaks3000: 認真的在拼搏季後賽跟冠軍賽低.. 03/25 09:35
推 davidlhs: 別人怎麼城他定位是一回事,LIN自己的期許不能這樣消極 03/25 10:25
→ downtoearth: "打造一個以林為主的球隊"這句其實很奇怪... 03/25 10:38
→ downtoearth: 你們確定,LIN自己期待這件事發生嗎? 03/25 10:39
推 PttCraft: 當然期待 03/25 11:18
推 Gilbertsky: 我的想法是能做Play Maker的人之中沒有不想當核心的 03/25 11:22
→ Gilbertsky: 當你知道自己持球能掌控比賽節奏時 你不會想打無球的 03/25 11:24
推 expedition: 無論去那裏永遠有強手,不能跟人合作就是整合的問題 03/25 15:39
→ expedition: 與其期待教練不如自己練強,或自己多跟人練搭配攻擊 03/25 15:40
→ jcchiou: 想要成為建隊核心,自己要夠強夠穩,Lin還缺穩定性 03/25 21:36
→ jcchiou: >70%的出賽都能打出虐馬刺的功力,人家抱著錢來求你當大哥 03/25 21:37
→ bhmok: 有人可以說下到底有多不穩嗎? 03/25 21:59
→ bhmok: 和其他相近的球員比穩定性有差多少? 03/25 22:01
→ Peaks3000: 撇開膚色問題 講直白一點就是天賦跟個人技巧不特別優異 03/25 22:19
→ Peaks3000: 跟穩定性沒關係 人家要捧打在爛數據有刷到也沒關係 03/25 22:21
→ Peaks3000: Lin的心態才是問題 企圖心不足 自信心看手感 03/25 22:26
→ Peaks3000: ^如果單單觀察Lin的話 對Lin個人而言 03/25 22:34
推 miha80425: 無私到他那個地步 想當核心除非教練有愛 03/25 22:39
推 jt: 很多球星都是大量球權和時間養出來的 03/25 23:25
→ jt: 你林的命沒有這樣好 然後人又太好... 03/25 23:25
推 playing808: 讚 03/25 23:29
→ Peaks3000: 別人的不"穩定" 都可以說是有潛力 有能量 還年輕..... 03/25 23:36
→ Peaks3000: 看看這些年被酸吹捧的咖.... 03/25 23:37
推 eileen86: 我林沒那命好嗎 ㄧ場低於10就酸不穩 別人直接略過不談XD 03/25 23:38
→ eileen86: D 03/25 23:38
推 eileen86: 去查其他對替補數據 也沒場場"穩定" 但大眾只拿這點酸 03/25 23:40
→ eileen86: 林 03/25 23:40
→ eileen86: *隊 03/25 23:40
→ Peaks3000: 還先發未滿板凳以上咧!!......標準是???????? 03/25 23:40
→ BadGame: 開創者的道路很辛苦 只能背後支持了... 03/25 23:48
推 eno03: 感謝翻譯 希望有一天能看到他打先發PG整季 03/27 00:29
→ O10lOl01O: 有一天?到火箭第一季就是這樣阿 應該說再有吧 03/27 09:15
推 boyd1014: 是阿~~9分也可以酸 哈哈哈 03/27 19:50
→ msk127: 廢到笑 趕快退一退拉 06/20 00:09