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The second pick will be D'Angelo Russell's second banana http://tinyurl.com/ha2n5y9 By TheGreatMambino 5/23 2016 Ben Simmons or Brandon Ingram? Which player is a better fit for the Los Angeles Lakers, mercifully still the owners of the second overall pick in this year's NBA draft? Who should they take? The truth is, it doesn't matter. On many levels. Ben Simmons還是 Brandon Ingram? 哪位球員比較適合有幸保留住榜眼的湖人隊? 他們該選誰呢? 而事實上 其實並不重要 從許多層面來看 On one very obvious level, the Lakers have the pick made for them by the time the clock starts ticking for their selection: it's whoever's left out of the two. Regardless of fit or preference, LA will take the available player and be completely and totally satisfied with it. That's one of the silver linings of merely keeping the pick: just be thankful you have it. The debate is going to be settled for them. 明顯看到 從開始選秀起湖人隊就已經做好他們的決定:就是兩個人剩下中的一個 先不管哪個適合哪個偏愛 湖人隊將會選一個有用而且滿意的球員 只要心存感謝就好了 畢竟從好的方向想 湖人隊還是保住了選秀權 他們已經準備作下最後的決定 But on a more realistic level, it won't matter who their new rookie is. Because whoever he is will be playing second fiddle to D'Angelo Russell. 而從更實際的層面來看 即將來到的新人是誰並不重要 因為無論是誰 他都將成為D'Angelo Russell的助手 In the last two and a half months of the season, Russell started to look more like the second pick of the draft and less like a 19-year-old point guard. He averaged 15/3/3 on a relatively decent .406/.388/.774 shooting line, all while taking nearly 13 shots a game in 30 plus minutes per game. 最後兩個半月的賽季裡 Russell開始表現得像一個榜眼 而不是一個只有19歲的控衛 他平均 15/3/3(分板助) 的數據以及相對得體 .406/.388/.774投籃三圍 表現在他平均每場13次出手 30多分鐘上場時間的比賽上 While those numbers--especially matched up against 2.4 turnovers per contest--certainly aren't great marks for an NBA point guard in 2016, they're sterling for a rookie. Double that when you consider that rookie is trying to manage an offense in the face of a coach with no particular offensive plan. Triple that when you consider he was easy pickings for any defense that knew Russell was one of the only other Lakers that could create any offense whatsoever. For the whole season, D'Angelo was like Leo in The Revenant except there were 15 bears and he had a sack of Legos instead of a gun. It wasn't a good situation. 這些數據 配上他場均2.4次的失誤來說 在2016年的控衛中不算很出色 但對一個菜鳥來說還是很不錯的 加上他要在教練沒有特別的戰術下組織進攻 再加上他是少數湖人隊裡 可以在任何時候創造進攻機會的人 特別容易吸引到防守 整個球季 他就像是神鬼獵人中的李奧納多 前方有15隻熊 但他手上沒有槍 只有一袋樂高玩具而已 情況對他來說並不是很好 Even more than his numbers, D'Angelo started to show more consistent spurts that he not only could be a good player, or even a great player, but rather, a superstar player. He unveiled a long-range touch that not only connected statistically, but aesthetically and mechanically and could be a weapon for years to come. With a quick release and a high arc coming from an already long player, Russell's jumper is sound in its construction. DLO也開始表現出 他不只是能成為好的球員 更能當一個超級明星 他還沒開鋒的長程火砲 令人感覺到舒服 優美且具有機械性 高角度以及快速的出手速度來自一位具有身高的球員 Russell的跳投技巧刻印在他體內 With the ball, it's clear that D'Angelo is equal parts distributor and scorer, but his ability to handle the ball and create space, mixed with a quick release shot, make him a deadly threat in the making. In many ways, Russell reminds me of a nascent James Harden--a deceivingly good athlete with excellent body control and zero fear of taking any shot, anytime. 球在手上時 DLO同時可當傳球者和得分手 而他處理球和製造空間的能力 搭配上他快速出手的投籃 讓他成為了進攻時致命的武器 在許多方面 他讓我想到了近期的 James Harden 具有優秀的運動能力 加上無時無刻 從不害怕任何出手 From a very, very early stand point, Russell already looks like a player the Lakers could build around. Of course there are some very, very noticeable warts to his game (I'm not sure that he'll ever be more than a decent defender), but at age 20, all we're looking for are signs. Not consistency, not excellent, but just signals of what's the come. With guys like Karl-Anthony Towns, LeBron James, Anthony Davis, Chris Paul and Kevin Durant, they were there from the jump. But for D'Angelo, we're merely prognosticating based on the skills that can be developed from the natural tools he's already got. 從很早的觀點來看 Russell已經看起來像是湖人隊可以圍繞他建隊的球員了 當然他還有一些注意得到的缺點(還不確定他是不是可以成為不錯的防守球員) 但他只有20歲 我們只能尋找一些可能的跡象而已 Karl-Anthony Towns, LeBron James, Anthony Davis, Chris Paul 和Kevin Durant 他們從一開始就很優秀了 但DLO我們只能從他天生的能力來判斷他可能開發的技巧 進而預測他的未來 In the modern NBA, success has been largely predicated around shooting and spacing, pace and ball movement. The players that have led their teams to success have been those that serve as both the ignition keys on offense, as well as the finishers. Without Chris Paul and Blake Griffin, is there any doubt that DeAndre Jordan would be a significantly less impactful player? Without LeBron James, Kryie Irving reverts back to a ball-stopping point guard. Without Stephen Curry, whose abilities make one question whether or not he'll finish the play or just start it, opposing defenses wouldn't be in a constant state of flux against the Warriors. 在現代的NBA 投籃 清空間 速度和球的流動已經視為成功的重要因素 讓球隊成功的球員 除了要能當進攻發動者 也要能當終結者 有需要問 如果沒有Chris Paul 和Blake Griffin的話 DeAndre Jordan會不會減少的他的衝擊力嗎? 沒有LeBron James , Kryie Irving會退回到一球在手的控衛 沒有Stephen Curry 失去了他發動攻擊或也能終結掉球的能力 勇士對手的防守也不會這樣一直露出破綻 Straight off of his rookie year, D'Angelo Russell looks like he can be the player that can fulfill that role. And at the point guard position, in today's league, it's quite evident that the player pushing the pace up court is quite often the fulcrum of his team. But is his future teammate capable of performing in that same slot? I'm not sure yet. 從菜鳥年來看 DLO看起來可以擔任這樣的角色 而在現今的聯盟來說 可以把球隊速度拉起來的控衛就可以成為球隊的台柱 但他未來的隊友可以配合他這樣打嗎?我還不確定 Will Ben Simmons be able to finish on plays other than in the paint? Will he learn how to shoot? Does he care enough to get better? Ben Simmons未來可以在禁區以外的地方得分嗎? 他會學會投籃嗎? 他想讓自己變更強嗎? Will Brandon Ingram be able to physically stand against the rigors of an 82-game season? Will his scoring prowess translate to the NBA level? Will he even be the one available at the number two slot? Brandon Ingram的體能能夠負荷82場比賽嗎? 他的得分能力可以達到NBA水準嗎? 他可以勝任第二位核心的角色嗎? The truth is, we don't know how good Ingram or Simmons will be. We don't know if they'll be able to make plays professionally, but with where the league is these days, it looks like D'Angelo is primed to be the primary player the Lakers are building around. 實際上 我們不知道Ingram 或Simmons 會變得多好 也不知道他們能不能打得更專業 但在現在的聯盟之下 似乎DLO已經優先成為湖人第一號 可以圍繞建隊的對象 Not a bad debate to have. Even in their darkest era ever, the Lakers are dealing with problems that other teams would kill for. 並不是面對一個苦澀的決定 雖然湖人經歷了他們最黑暗的時期 但他們的現在所面臨的困擾 對其他NBA球隊而言 卻也是一個求之 而不能得的機會 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 61.230.215.223 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/Lakers/M.1464100867.A.936.html
Verlander35: 推外電 05/24 22:46
Heimdallwind: 外電推 05/24 22:49
YamagiN: 推 作者太小看樂高了 撒在地上熊也不敢靠近XD 05/24 22:57
Lattendue: 原來是樂高阿~~才能遮蔽錄影(被打 05/24 23:05
bitegod0921: 繼KOBE之後另一個徹夜看錄影的湖人球員\ 05/24 23:07
toast1521: 樂高俠 05/24 23:09
wangkun: 突然發現Dlo也有196公分 05/24 23:10
john7420: 外電推~ 這作者的確把前兩順位的可能缺點寫的滿深入的XD 05/24 23:11
newsboy3423: Dlo打控衛算高的 05/24 23:13
dragonjohn: 第二根香蕉 XDD 05/24 23:13
crawford438: 一想到踩到在地上的樂高就覺得恐怖 05/24 23:22
bbolivier: Russel的右手運球好了嗎? 05/24 23:28
kobegary: 蛤?感覺作者應該也有被拍影片吧?他的速度人家貼緊一點 05/24 23:52
kobegary: 不讓他投,放他切進去一定跟得上,彈跳能力又不行,能 05/24 23:52
kobegary: 不被補防的搧火鍋就偷笑了,加上運球也沒多好,多是用 05/24 23:52
kobegary: 屁股在頂空間而已!看不出有什麼地方值得以他為中心建 05/24 23:52
kobegary: 隊,要也是Randle或新簽的自由球員或這次的榜眼才對! 05/24 23:52
bill8262000: DLO運球缺點是背後運球能力太弱可是又愛用這招,無 05/24 23:53
bill8262000: 論是練習還是正式比賽,都可以看到他背後運球差點失 05/24 23:53
bill8262000: 誤,不知道其他人有沒有跟我看的一樣詳細 05/24 23:53
samsam80821: 不過這篇重點其實也不多啦阿 05/24 23:53
newsboy3423: 先知都來了 05/24 23:58
settier: 呵呵,讓我們繼續看下去 05/25 00:04
kobetime: 真的覺得先知太屌了 05/25 00:05
abcd40116: 先知的對決 05/25 00:06
toast1521: 雙先知單挑不跑 05/25 00:07
ping1777: 唉呦好像第一次看到兩位先知一起出場 05/25 00:10
godhand5: 先知真辛苦 05/25 00:31
shang1225: 速度、彈跳能力是衡量基石的重點?不愧是先知 05/25 00:51
hasebe: 比爾鮮汁露出反串Dlo黑的真面目了we 05/25 01:07
hasebe: 終於看到合體,歷史性一刻XD 05/25 01:08
Crissangel: 雙先知發現連美國人都不挺他們只好開酸XD 05/25 01:21
pharmawind: DLO: 學弟,當我的助手把~ 來~ 那盞燈架高一點 很好~ 05/25 01:21
oneders39: 有嗎? 常常都同時出現啊 都想推在一起了 05/25 01:27
oneders39: 這樣我應該有看得很詳細了吧? 05/25 01:28
denn589367: 推圍繞Dlo重建,然後坐看先知出場 05/25 02:07
teruhyde12: 體能不勁爆當基石真的無敵抖,能變成NASH就好了 05/25 02:22
LakersMamba: 原來體能勁爆才可以當基石... 05/25 02:34
LakersMamba: Dlo體能沒有不好 只是球風的問題 05/25 02:35
HaODaDa: 找Wes Johnson 當基石好了 05/25 06:00
henbolei: 不如給小南斯當基石如何?體能夠好了吧 05/25 06:35
stylerpan: 樂高...飯登...外電很有意思 05/25 07:43
cvbn7910: 用樂高形容BS體系還蠻有趣的xdd 05/25 08:48
zehow: Kidd Nash 體能也都不算勁爆啊 也都是名人堂等級 05/25 10:23
gglonkey: 雷霆打成這樣,KD看來應該會多留一年 05/25 10:25
steven610381: Kidd那推進的速度很嚇人好嗎? 05/25 10:26
steven610381: Nash體能沒那麼好 可是他過得了人 05/25 10:27
steven610381: DLO的技術需要多練練 05/25 10:27
steven610381: DLO還是當助手吧 05/25 10:28
Lattendue: 明年才是第二年 本來就要練 他也正在練0.0... 05/25 10:29
jimli: 才打第一年就要人家甚麼都會XD 多給幾年可以嗎 05/25 10:35
ping1777: 這樣就算Nash來一定也被嫌到爆炸阿XD 好幾年才打出身價 05/25 10:52
angelmax: 球員養成就是要耐心 至少第一年有看出潛力 05/25 10:53
jimli: 那槍西我們一定不識貨的阿 前幾年完全浪人XD 05/25 10:53
angelmax: 後衛又比長人難養一點 禁區投不進至少可以朝防守藍領練 05/25 10:54
alanlakers: 那些看不出Dlo潛能的人 實在該好好的再多進修一番 05/25 11:29
alanlakers: 籃球世界裡不是只有體能 或者速度 才能代表一切 05/25 11:30
alanlakers: Dlo是否真能長成球星沒有人可以打包票 但是 現階段 05/25 11:31
YamagiN: 這樣只有Kidd CP3這種控衛是先知們看得上眼的 其他現在 05/25 11:32
alanlakers: 他所表現出的得分手段 實在是多年來少見的奇才 05/25 11:32
YamagiN: 引領聯盟的優質控衛幾乎都會被嫌得像屎一樣 05/25 11:33
jasontseng1: 沒有到甚麼"多年來少見的奇才"程度吧ORZ 05/25 11:38
newsboy3423: 沒那麼強啦 但還算有潛力 05/25 11:39
micbrimac: Walton可以準備回來好好帶球員了~~ 05/25 11:43
alanlakers: 請舉個例 聯盟有那個年輕後衛各項得分手段都會的? 05/25 12:01
alanlakers: Dlo第一年就可以展現出各種投籃技巧 不是奇才是什麼? 05/25 12:02
alanlakers: 光是個人運球單打與 C&S能力 可隨時切換的人就不多了 05/25 12:04
alanlakers: 他還有低位動作 這更是後衛近年來越來越少見的技能 05/25 12:06
alanlakers: 另外空切跑位 籃下瞎攪和 更是常見的得分模式 05/25 12:09
alanlakers: Stephen Curry Says Dlo Has "Total skill set" 05/25 12:13
alanlakers: http://goo.gl/3eqoAQ 05/25 12:15