[閒聊] Reddit 熱議：GAM的神奇選角

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前情提要：GAM在VCS(Vietnam Championship Serie，越南職業聯賽)春季賽的第一場對上
          了FFQ戰隊，第一場GAM的雙人線是鄂爾+賽恩，第二場GAM的中路是稻草人，想當
          然耳，Reddit又掀起了一陣討論
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...with smite
...賽恩帶重擊

  Sion support with smite is ok but nunu support with smite is toxic
  輔助賽恩帶重擊OK，但是輔助努努帶重擊就是來戳的

     competitive ruling incoming
     要被禁賽囉

  In this game they did something way different.

  They go in with 3 man and take camps and Sion helps ornn to get more camps
  and be ready to go bot. Sion then does 2 camps and reaches lvl 3 and swaps
  smite away and sells the jungle item. From there on he plays normal support
  bot

  At no point did he leave his ADC alone while the ADC asked him to help. The
  ADC was in on the plan, the whole team was

  You also need Ornn as your ADC replacement because he is hard to dive, has
  decent wave clear and can build items without going B

  You also likely need an ADC jungler like Graves for objectives or you would
  never be able to get drake or baron fast enough.

  You can't compare these two cases. The lvl of depth in GAMs plan, the
  execution, the whole team being in on it, all picks being done around that to
  leave the least amount of weaknesses, ...
  在這場遊戲裡他們做了些很不一樣的事。
  他們開場三人入野並且把野怪吃掉，而且賽恩幫鄂爾吃更多攤野怪並讓鄂爾準備好到線
  上。然後賽恩吃了兩攤野怪，升上三等，然後把重擊換掉，打野裝也賣掉了，接下來他
  就走正常輔助的玩法。

  在任何情況下，當他的ADC需要幫忙的時候，他都沒有讓他獨自一人。ADC在計畫中，整
  隊都是。

  你也需要鄂爾來當ADC的替代品，因為他很難被塔殺，有不錯的清兵能力，而且不用回家
  就能買裝。

  你也需要一個像葛雷夫一樣的射手打野來拿地圖物件，不然你們吃小龍或巴龍的速度永
  遠都不夠快。

  你不能就這樣比對這兩個情況。GAM的計畫的深度，他們的執行力，整隊都在狀況內，所
  有的選角都圍繞著要留下最少的弱點這個點來進行...

And they fucking won, as how it should always be. I can see a new SofM and Levi
in Zeros already
而且他們天殺的贏了，一如往常。我已經可以在Zeros身上看到SofM和兵長的影子了

  And they're winning with middlesticks... these guys are amazing
  而且他們用中路稻草人贏了...這些傢伙真是驚人

    Please remember, there's only 2 returning member from Worlds being Archie
    and Noway, all other 3 are newbies: Zeros on Top, KrissKyle jung, and
    Zeroday mid
    請記得，只有阿奇和Noway這兩個成員是打過世界賽的。其他的三個人都是新手：上路
    的Zeros，打野的Krisskyle和中路的Zeroday

Watching GAM is like watching an episode of Yu-gi-oh. Where he pulls out some
card the opponent isn't expecting because everyone thinks it's shit, and then
he uses in a really creative way that wins the match.
看GAM比賽就好像在看遊戲王。當他們丟了些牌，對手都不會預料到，因為每個人都覺得它
爛透了。然後他們就用非常有創意的方式贏下對決。

I fucking love GAM
我愛死GAM了

Why need ADC in AD pos? - Tinikun
為什麼AD位要用射手角？- Tinikun
(註：Tinikun是GAM的教練)

ADC Jungle, duo tank botlane is certainly an interesting comp.
射手打野和下路雙坦克顯然是一個很有趣的陣容。

  That Sion takes Smite and Unsealed Spellbook, suicide at lvl 1 to clear
  jungle
  那隻賽恩帶重擊跟啟封法書，一等用被動來吃野

It's the start of the season and GAM is already tilting enemies with their
unusual comps.
現在才剛開季，GAM已經用他們不尋常的選角讓對手心態炸裂了。

Wait. They not only used Orin/Sion bot, they did it with two support players
(although Archie was former top right?)? That is amazing.
等等。他們不只用鄂爾+賽恩的下路組合，他們用兩個輔助選手打下路(雖然阿奇以前是打
上路的對吧？)？這真是令人驚訝。

  Archie is very flexible, he can play every single role in the game. He is
  pretty Jack-of-all-trades.
  阿奇是很萬能的，他可以打遊戲裡的任何一路。他樣樣精通。

     I knew Archie was flexible, but damn... every role? even jungle?
     我知道阿奇很萬能，但是天殺的...每路？甚至打野也是？

       The casters made a joke about Archie, because this is the game that marks
       his participation in all 5 roles: top, mid, jung, sp, adc in pro play
       and probably the first pro player to ever do so
       主播開了個有關阿奇的玩笑，因為這場遊戲代表著他在職業賽五路都有打過，而且
       大概是第一個辦到的職業選手。

          Do you know when he played jung and mid? I don't think any other
          player has played all 5 roles competetively. The closest I know of
          are Hai and Chauster with 3 roles.
          你知道他什麼時候打過JG和中路嗎？我不認為任何其他的選手有能力打五路。
          我知道最接近(打五路)的是打過三路的Hai和Chauster。

            xPeke has played 4, he was originally top laner for FNC, then
            switched to mid, then he played support and ADC for Origen.
            xPeke打過四路，他原本是FNC的上路，後來轉到中路，之後在OG打過輔助和
            AD

              Lol you're right.
              Although I'd like to forget about the time when he was playing
              support on Origen...
              LOL，你是對的
              雖然我很想忘記他在打輔助時候的OG...

                I pretend like post-2015 worlds OG didn't exist, just makes me
                sad.
                我假裝2015世界賽後的OG不存在，他們只會讓我難過。

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推 billabcddog : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WD5NMU_Se0g
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推 saysayliam  : 這季 Maple猛練中路稻草人啊  去看他的OP.GG
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推 yeeeeeXD    : 2222222
推 billabcddog : https://youtu.be/WD5NMU_Se0g?t=1379
→ billabcddog : 這逃跑有夠猛
→ qwe00489    : 感覺真的很有想法捏
推 HXXXXZ      : 這比賽看起來很好玩xD
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推 DarkMooon   : 五路都打過的選手  丁特 BEBE
→ Shushusnail : \GAM/
推 kevin262    : 那個 optimos呢
他已經離開GAM了~
推 opopkl852   : 小夜夜除了上路也都打過啊
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新的關鍵天賦 啟封法書的效果
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推 wwwsamyoui12: 看起來核心是上路？ 一定要選能一打五的鬥士
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兵長現在在100 Thieves(騎士隊)的二隊
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