[情報] AMD宣布B450 X470將支援Zen 3

作者MorikonHase (魔莉肯)

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標題[情報] AMD宣布B450 X470將支援Zen 3

時間Tue May 19 22:06:48 2020

原文:https://bit.ly/3bKRiP5 As we head into our upcoming “Zen 3” architecture, there are considerable technical challenges that face a CPU socket as long-lived as AMD Socket AM4. For example, we recently announced that we would not support “Zen 3” on AMD 400 Series motherboards due to serious constraints in SPI ROM capacities in most of the AMD 400 Series motherboards. This is not the first time a technical hurdle has come up with Socket AM4 given the longevity of this socket, but it is the first time our enthusiasts have faced such a hurdle. 當提到我們的Zen 3技術，不免會對長命的ＡＭ４腳位產生一些技術上的問題。我們最近宣布400系列主機板將不支援Zen 3的原因是因為400系列對於SPI ROM容量的強力限制以他的長壽程度來看，這並不是AM4腳位遇到的第一個技術障礙但這卻是我們的粉絲第一次遇到了這種障礙 Over the past week, we closely reviewed your feedback on that news: we watched every video, read every comment and saw every Tweet. We hear that many of you hoped for a longer upgrade path. We hear your hope that AMD B450 and X470 chipsets would carry you into the “Zen 3” era. 在這一整個禮拜，我們仔細的閱讀了你們的回覆我們看了每支影片看了每個comment也讀了每一則tweet 我們聽到了多數人的需求也就是延長更新我們聽到了你們想要B450和X470 帶領你們進入Zen 3世代 Our experience has been that large-scale BIOS upgrades can be difficult and confusing especially as processors come on and off the support lists. As the community of Socket AM4 customers has grown over the past three years, our intention was to take a path forward that provides the safest upgrade experience for the largest number of users. However, we hear you loud and clear when you tell us you would like to see B450 or X470 boards extended to the next generation “Zen 3” products. 經驗告訴我們，大尺度的更新BIOS將會是一個很困難且複雜的挑戰尤其是新的CPU在舊的板子上的支援隨著AM4的使用者在這三年來的大幅上升我們原本的計畫是讓這代退休好讓最多人能享受最安全的升級但我們聽見你的聲音告訴我們你想要讓B450和X470延長到下個世代 """""""ZEN 3""""""""" As the team weighed your feedback against the technical challenges we face, we decided to change course. As a result, we will enable an upgrade path for B450 and X470 customers that adds support for next-gen AMD Ryzen™ Processors with the “Zen 3” architecture. This decision is very fresh, but here is a first look at how the upgrade path is expected to work for customers of these motherboards. 大意就是我們知道了啦幹會支援啦這樣 1.We will develop and enable our motherboard partners with the code to support “Zen 3”-based processors in select beta BIOSes for AMD B450 and X470 motherboards. 2.These optional BIOS updates will disable support for many existing AMD Ryzen ™ Desktop Processor models to make the necessary ROM space available. 3.The select beta BIOSes will enable a one-way upgrade path for AMD Ryzen Processors with “Zen 3,” coming later this year. Flashing back to an older BIOS version will not be supported. 4.To reduce the potential for confusion, our intent is to offer BIOS download only to verified customers of 400 Series motherboards who have purchased a new desktop processor with “Zen 3” inside. This will help us ensure that customers have a bootable processor on-hand after the BIOS flash, minimizing the risk a user could get caught in a no-boot situation. 5.Timing and availability of the BIOS updates will vary and may not immediately coincide with the availability of the first “Zen 3”-based processors. 6.This is the final pathway AMD can enable for 400 Series motherboards to add new CPU support. CPU releases beyond “Zen 3” will require a newer motherboard. 7.AMD continues to recommend that customers choose an AMD 500 Series motherboard for the best performance and features with our new CPUs. 因為我不太專業就請各位看原文抱歉 There are still many details to iron out, but we’ve already started the necessary planning. As we get closer to the launch of this upgrade path, you should expect another blog just like this to provide the remaining details and a walkthrough of the specific process. 儘管還有很多細節要處理但是我們已經開始計畫了 At CES 2017, AMD made a commitment: we would support AMD Socket AM4 until 2020. We’ve spent the next three years working very hard to fulfill that promise across four architectures, plus pioneering use of new technologies like chiplets and PCIe® Gen 4. Thanks to your feedback, we are now set to bring “Zen 3” to the AMD 400 Series chipsets. We’re grateful for your passion and support of AMD’s products and technologies. 我們曾經承諾AM4會活到2020 我們花了三年滿足這個承諾 bla bla bla 謝謝各位的回覆我們已經確定Zen 3會在400系列的板子上支援我們很感謝各位的熱情與支持AMD的產品跟技術 We’ll talk again soon. 改天再聊我記得有鄉民猜對了馬上改口支援好香啊 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 42.72.183.168 (臺灣) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/PC_Shopping/M.1589897210.A.61A.html

→ jhangyu : 香，之後可以來上4950X了05/19 22:08

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推 honher : 香05/19 22:09

推 jasn4560 : 白海豚?05/19 22:10

推 LastAttack : 很會轉彎==嘻嘻是說這次會不會再提供CPU來讓人升級05/19 22:10

推 rock0807 : 太香了05/19 22:10

→ LastAttack : BIOS呢？05/19 22:10

→ andyw7612162: 反觀05/19 22:12

→ pig : 更新後會刪掉舊款 CPU 的支援05/19 22:13

推 jason840226 : 轉彎歸轉彎，還是比硬幹好多了05/19 22:13

※ 編輯: MorikonHase (163.25.119.77 臺灣), 05/19/2020 22:36:44

推 Kenyon7421 : 不好意思不太懂，這兩款型號主機板不是是本來就有支05/19 22:14

→ Kenyon7421 : 援嗎？05/19 22:14

推 GGWPonLOL : 本來沒有要支援只有500系列支援而已05/19 22:14

→ kimula01 : good. 我的B450i不用賣了05/19 22:14

推 Bob9154 : https://youtu.be/T5X-8vZtml805/19 22:15

推 DickRyan : i家表示：還讓不讓活....05/19 22:15

→ Bob9154 : 反正怎麼做都會出問題看AMD覺得哪個好處理05/19 22:16

→ pig : 之後推出的桌上型4000系列才是zen305/19 22:16

→ pig : 現在的3000系列是zen205/19 22:16

推 Kenyon7421 : 原來我誤會了，我以為現在3系列就是zen305/19 22:19

推 WARgame723 : 這樣就對了 05/19 22:20

推 giancarlo82 : 買C7H特價的爽到05/19 22:20

推 mayolane : 723的B450可以繼續用了嘻嘻05/19 22:20

→ a123444556 : 不是說BIOS容量不夠難不成bios介面要改成黑白嗎 XD05/19 22:21

推 GGWPonLOL : 723難得説人話欸05/19 22:21

→ pig : 就停止支援舊的 CPU 來空出空間啊05/19 22:22

推 tarry240 : 4000系列桌機用APU快出！！05/19 22:22

推 doom3 : 又香了 cc05/19 22:23

推 Shigeru777 : 沒有A320 隆仔不開心05/19 22:23

→ pig : 對照 x570 的話，應該就 1000 系列不支援了吧05/19 22:23

→ pig : 附帶說明一下 4000G APU 還是 zen2 哦05/19 22:25

噓 dreamgirl : X370敲碗05/19 22:25

→ pig : 要沒內顯的那批才會是 zen305/19 22:25

→ gogojazz : 723推了！這麼開心！？05/19 22:27

推 mercuries2 : C7H看起來靠32MB的bios可以一次支援1~4代全部的RYZE05/19 22:27

→ mercuries2 : N CPU了05/19 22:27

→ scarbywind : 再買c6h阿 (X05/19 22:28

→ scarbywind : 搞不好可以看到以前的藍白bios05/19 22:29

推 segunta : C7H繼續戰!05/19 22:29

推 a58524andy : 香香香香香 amd有聽到大地之母的哭聲我他媽推爆05/19 22:30

推 ctes940008 : 誇張05/19 22:32

推 a58524andy : 推 WARgame723: 這樣就對了05/19 22:32

→ porco0857 : 可以用，但要自己debug喔 05/19 22:32

推 genelin : C7H表示欣慰05/19 22:35

推 DennyPed : 一狗票B450表示：真香05/19 22:36

推 Kagero : 舊的支援拔掉然後要自己測試05/19 22:38

推 Cubelia : R3BE的黑白色BIOS還真的超帥XD05/19 22:38

噓 LastAttack : ３００系板消費者下去啦，我大ＡＮＤ承諾的是不換腳05/19 22:38

推 ted1030 : 真香05/19 22:38

→ LastAttack : 位，有說過一定支援ＣＵＰ了？05/19 22:39

推 lolwtfnow : C7H突然又香了起來05/19 22:39

推 Gsanz : 推 WARgame723: 這樣就對了05/19 22:43

推 SonoSion : 這樣就對了05/19 22:46

推 MK47 : 笑死XDD 之前買B450、X470的賺爆05/19 22:46

推 show632 : 重點在要用Zen 3要捨棄其他支援05/19 22:46

推 harryzx0 : 板廠表示：05/19 22:46

→ yu76 : 爽05/19 22:46

推 ltyintw : 香05/19 22:48

推 pkro12345 : 爽05/19 22:48

推 Kowdan : C7H香05/19 22:48

推 superLM : 留個名太爽鳥~~05/19 22:49

推 nakayamayyt : 會怕就好05/19 22:49

推 asxy25 : 香05/19 22:58

推 himekami : 香05/19 22:58

→ NanaMizuki : AMD yes ! 05/19 23:05

→ superLM : 好險沒買一塊C6H來當備板05/19 23:08

推 henry46277 : 香05/19 23:09

推 alvistan : 原本不敢刪除一代的支援吧05/19 23:10

推 gg067788 : AMD YES !05/19 23:10

推 jaspergod : 香爆 B450m坐等別人x470升級Zen撿個37X還是39X XD05/19 23:10

推 ray90910 : Rog x470有救了！05/19 23:10

推 bpq302302 : AMD好棒05/19 23:11

推 yu1111116 : 從今天開始AMD就是我大哥！05/19 23:12

推 menshuei : 哇噢，怎麼跟板廠講的都不一樣？05/19 23:16

推 azumanga : 讚。05/19 23:17

推 wp2010504 : 身為b450 max系列使用者的我：超香05/19 23:17

噓 aasssdddd : 宣稱2020之前不換腳位的意義是啥05/19 23:21

→ scarbywind : 微星應該是最大受益者吧XD05/19 23:21

→ MK47 : 對耶之前微星出一堆max版買的都能升XD05/19 23:23

推 RC8377 : 香05/19 23:24

推 Ken210430 : 我的X470-F可以再戰了05/19 23:27

推 Doub1eK : b450 再戰十年05/19 23:30

推 eericchutw : 本來B450想換C6H 好險05/19 23:36

推 chen5512 : B450,B470的ROM空間不是都比較大嗎？05/19 23:37

→ chen5512 : 更正X47005/19 23:38

推 ms0545173 : X470可以用的話就不換10代了05/19 23:41

推 Hurricaneger: 換句話說，B550還是不出來 05/19 23:47

→ shinjikawuru: 那個....b350拜託一下05/19 23:55

推 Secret69 : X570坐等zne 3☺05/19 23:56

推 knml : 真的香爆05/20 00:05

推 pttae : AMD真香05/20 00:08

→ RaiGend0519 : 哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈哈05/20 00:11

推 RaiGend0519 : C6H GG，X470板子香起來～05/20 00:13

推 DEAKUNE : 723聞到香味忍不住發言啦XD05/20 00:14

推 jay0215 : 從今天起 AMD就是我大哥05/20 00:16

推 s30zx2000 : C6H即將迎來拋售潮XD！？05/20 00:30

噓 kevin850717 : 板廠QQ 新板子更難賣，還要多花人力在舊板子做義工 05/20 00:31

推 WeAntiTVBS : 小星星那些沒有MAX的B450 X470表示：05/20 00:33

推 silverair : 會轉彎還可以05/20 00:34

※ 編輯: MorikonHase (42.72.183.168 臺灣), 05/20/2020 00:36:25

推 jacob815123 : 真香 05/20 00:44

推 appleonatree: 666 這才是我的good boy AMD 05/20 01:11

推 iuytjhgf : C6H快拋快拋 05/20 01:16

推 yafx4200p : 723去健身版練好身子要打臉各位了 05/20 01:20

推 pcfox : 推 WARgame723 : 這樣就對了 05/20 01:39

→ pcfox : C7H延命 3900X要掰了嗎 05/20 01:40

→ StarHero : C6H下台一鞠躬坐等2990的C7H 05/20 01:41

推 waiter337 : 感覺林董的肝要炸掉了 05/20 01:51

噓 AZBTPATONY : 反觀 05/20 01:51

推 qazwsx855193: 我的天有夠香 05/20 01:54

推 cul287 : 哈哈哈哈有糖吃 05/20 02:02

推 a86710985 : 真香 05/20 02:39

推 wilson31507 : B450M-K準備好了 05/20 02:40

→ bluesapphire: 應該是b550一直難產，所以才出此下策吧.. 05/20 04:34

推 kamir : Bios容量不夠出改版如何，如小星星的B450 XXX MAX 05/20 06:06

推 Burney000000: 爽啊啊啊 05/20 06:54

推 leo255112 : 真香 05/20 07:40

推 MaxGDAM : 太香了 05/20 08:00

推 GYao : 超爽，B450cp值真高 05/20 08:42

推 sincere77 : 板廠：啊乾... 05/20 09:00

推 luckygod : c6h很好啊,b450/x470升zen3就能撿二手3xxx用 05/20 10:11

推 ayuhb : 爽撿2手3600 05/20 10:40

推 bunjie : 真香果然轉彎了 05/20 12:36

推 RyanChang : 真香還好當初沒選C6H 05/20 13:00

推 joeboy : 723不演了嗎 05/20 13:21

推 randeon5566 : 低階b450放掉能理解但高階X470不支援就... 05/20 13:50

推 rebecca7528 : C7H表示舒服 05/20 13:58

推 cele28 : 板上那幾個幫忙清c6h要加油囉嘻嘻 05/20 15:15

推 horb : x370也拜託 05/20 16:02

推 RIFF : 相容推 05/20 16:02

推 power5703 : 香推一個 05/20 16:11

推 iem2000 : 幹還好我買B450 05/20 18:27

→ Sswatt : 文中不就明講了並不是所有 B450 X470 都會支援 05/20 19:11

→ Sswatt : 但現階段無法得知到底是哪些會支援 05/20 19:12

推 Everyeeeee : 723????? 05/21 08:41

噓 ultratimes : 就是死命硬撐搞得四不像新CPU用新平台 05/21 14:52

→ ultratimes : 避免新舊交錯出問題也避免BIOS支援過量CPU導致 05/21 14:52

→ ultratimes : 資訊量爆炸難道不好嗎？ 05/21 14:52

→ ultratimes : 新主機板還要支援一堆舊U 結果BIOS塞一堆沒用的資料 05/21 14:53

→ ultratimes : r舊版子支援新U 結果BIOS容量不夠哈哈 05/21 14:53

推 z2525113 : 反觀i家一直換腳位 05/21 22:47

推 Gan0liang : 信AMD得永生 05/22 01:25

→ crono0 : 可是INTEL的CPU不繼承腳位繼承了很多漏洞 05/22 15:57