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[美國JRs之聲]米切爾最近輸出爆炸!美球迷:他是會三分的韋德or強壯的利拉德? 由 Jerryw_ang 發表在虎撲籃球·爵士專區 https://bbs.hupu.com/jazz 更多精彩內容請搜索微信公眾號“美國JRs之聲” Donovan Mitchell is averaging 28.6pts on 53/45/92 split over the last 5 games 多諾萬-米切爾在過去五場比賽(不算今天的比賽)中以53/45/92的命中率場均砍下28.6 分大殺四方。 Dude is balling out and he's not even 30 games into his NBA career yet. What do you think his ceiling is? 這哥們甚至還沒有打滿30場常規賽就已經開始大殺四方了。 你們覺得他的上限會有多高? [–][DEN] Chauncey Billupslurching23 751 指標 11小時前 Yeah.... well..... did you guys see Tyler Lyndon ball out in the G league?! Trey Lyles has been pretty good!! Fucking kill me 掘金球迷:Emm…你們看到泰勒.-萊登在發展聯盟打的有多好了嗎?!特雷-賴爾斯也打得 不錯!!我編不下去了快殺了我吧。[譯注1] [譯注1]:在2017年選秀大會上,掘金將13號簽(後選中多諾萬-米切爾)交易至爵士換來 24號簽(後選中泰勒-萊登)和特雷-賴爾斯。 [–]Nuggetsduckduckmeow 289 指標 11小時前 Every Mitchell and OG highlight make me so upset, wtf were we thinking 掘金球迷:每一個米切爾和阿努諾比的集錦都會戳痛我的心,我們的管理層到底他媽在想 什麼?[譯注2] 譯注2:OG-阿努諾比在2017年選秀大會上以23順位被猛龍摘走,而掘金向下交易的簽則正 好是24順位。 [–]turdferguson94 254 指標 9小時前 That you had Gary Harris Will Barton Jamal Murray and Mudiay and wanted frontcourt depth? Just a hunch. 你們有加里-哈裡斯,威爾-巴頓,賈瑪律-穆雷和穆迪埃還想再增加前場深度?場上會變 得水泄不通的。 [–][UTA] Rudy Gobertdautjazz 29 指標 6小時前 Lyles was garbage for Utah last year, though he's been decent for Denver so far. Still, Donovan is playing on a whole other level already, I imagine he'd be Denver's best guard if given the opportunity (or if it's the right system for him). Donovan is a great scorer and passer, so he can play SG or PG. Regardless, I am glad Denver keeps sending us their goodies. 爵士球迷:賴爾斯去年在爵士打的就是一坨屎,不過他目前為止在掘金打的還算可以。可 米切爾已經在打處於另外一個水準的籃球了,我覺得如果給他機會(或者說有適合他的體 系),他本有可能成為掘金最好的後衛。米切爾是一個精英級別的得分手和傳球手,所以 他就是個雙能衛。不管怎樣,我還是感謝掘金一如既往地救我們與水火之中。 [–][ATL] Dennis SchroderPacificBrim 29 指標 9小時前 I heard the that the Nugs were trading down thinking they'd be able to get OG with that pick. Obviously it was a dumb risk, just go get your guys 我聽說掘金向下交易簽位元是覺得他們能在那個順位劫走阿努諾比。很顯然那是個很蠢的 冒險計畫,乖乖選走你想要的人不就行了嗎? [–]Bucksrice_and_lentils 31 指標 8小時前 That's a weak principle. If the other teams don't evaluate OG to be good enough to take at 13, then in many circumstances it makes sense to trade down and extract value from that trade while getting your guy anyway. Hindsight is 20/20. Sometimes good risks don't pay off. I'm not sure this one was good, but we're being very reactionary here. 這都是馬後炮。如果其他隊沒有覺得阿努諾比值得13順位元,那在這種情況下向下交易簽 位元並同時摘走你想要的人就很合理啊。總是有人事後諸葛亮。有時候風險是值得冒的, 但它並不是總會帶來收益。我不確定這是不是一次好的冒險,但我們也有點反應過度了。 [–]RocketsCeero_Bro 416 指標 11小時前 hes a swole Dame. He can fly, and he can launch from deep and still has saucy handles. Very fun to watch. Last night CP3 said "they got a gem in him" after Rox vs Jazz game referring to Don. 他就像是強壯版的利拉德。他有著驚人的運動能力,他能輕輕一躍完成暴扣同時還有著很 棒的運球能力。看他打比賽很有趣。 火箭打完爵士的比賽後,保羅還說“爵士得到米切爾是撿到寶了。” [–]SpursBarncore 204 指標 9小時前 Swole Dame but with defense 不光是強壯版的利拉德,還是會防守的利拉德哦。 [–]JazzFcivish4 122 指標 9小時前 Keep going.... 爵士球迷:繼續吹不要停。 [–]Trail Blazersyargdpirate 166 指標 9小時前 Shaq with a three-point jimbo 像有著三分球的沙克。 [–]JazzCICERO9K 33 指標 6小時前 Keep going I'm almost there 爵士球迷:啊啊啊請繼續,快來了... [–][BOS] Paul Piercejallain 56 指標 6小時前 Spiderman but with Iron Man's sex appeal 有著鋼鐵俠吃妞魅力的蜘蛛俠。 [–]SpursBarncore 166 指標 9小時前 Gilbert Arenas with sanity 沒失心瘋的阿裡納斯。 [–]Celticsargle__bargle 65 指標 8小時前 So not Gilbert Arenas 所以...也就不是阿裡納斯咯? [–]WarriorsthissistheN 125 指標 8小時前 brandon roy with knees 那就有著健全膝蓋的羅伊吧。 [–][PHI] Kyle Korvermysticfishes 173 指標 11小時前 I don't think he has a ceiling 我認為他沒有上限(天花板)這一說。 [–]Rocketssbleezy 57 指標 10小時前 It's through the roof 穿過天花板就是了。 [–]LakersUCRRed 101 指標 10小時前 The ceiling is the roof 天花板就是上限,上限就是天花板! [–][UTA] Donovan Mitchellbigwinniestyle 47 指標 9小時前 So many upvotes, I think my thumb is going to fall off... I did it for you Donovan... 爵士球迷:吹米切爾吹的我好爽,點亮都點不過來了,手指頭快累掉了。 [–][BOS] Jayson Tatummorewinsmorelife 149 指標 11小時前 Reminds me of a Dwade type of player with a better 3pt shot 他讓我想起了韋德那種類型的球員,但他有著更好的三分 [–][ATL] Dennis SchroderPacificBrim 132 指標 9小時前 so is Donovan Mitchell the new 3rd best SG of all time or is he even higher? 所以米切爾已經是歷史第三得分後衛了?三分更好所以他可能比歷史第三得分後衛還要牛 逼? [–]JazzMicroAggressiveMe 33 指標 7小時前 D-Wade, Lilliard, Westbrook, and Harden got into a Prius and had a soup kitchen. Out came Mitchell. 韋德、利拉德,威少和哈登的*河蟹*混血兒——多諾萬-米切爾! [–]Westyesungxiao 18 指標 8小時前* Exactly what Givony said today in Woj's podcast, a D-Wade with better shooting. And still great intangibles, athleticism, his mind and hard worker (to grow from a baseball player into a top basketball prospect in a couple years)... Geez, i'll tell my grandsons that i was alive in the 17 and 18 draft class era. 就像Givony在今天沃神的播客上說的那樣,他是投射更好的韋德。還有這數不清的潛力, 驚人的運動能力,清晰的頭腦和勤奮刻苦的態度(這會讓他在兩三年內成長為一名頂尖的 籃球運動員)。 天啊,我以後要是有孩子了,我會告訴他們我親眼見證了17和18級新秀的橫空出世! [–]Lakersthechort7 31 指標 7小時前 Can you imagine the hype he'd be getting if he played in a bigger market? 你能想像下他在更大的市場下打球會是怎樣一番情景嗎? [–]JazzDeathBySuplex 14 指標 7小時前 Honestly? I think if he was in a bigger market, and Simmons wins the ROY (not that he’s undeserving) over him they change the ROY award to a draft class one... hell, they still might with this monster draft class but Simmons as a holdover. 讓我講實話?我覺得如果他在更大的球市下打球,然後西蒙斯拿下年度最佳新秀(我沒有 說他不配這個獎),聯盟會把年度最佳新秀規則改成隻讓當年新秀參與評選,這樣米切爾 就會拿獎而西蒙斯就只能飲恨而退了。日,可能今年的新秀都這麼天賦爆表,聯盟還真有 可能這麼幹,頒兩個最佳新秀,給西蒙斯一個遲到的獎項。 [–]NBAtank4picks 71 指標 11小時前 Is he already the best rookie in the 2017 draft class or is it still Tatum? 他和塔圖姆哪個是2017年最好的新秀? [–][UTA] Greg Ostertagsoapy_goatherd 174 指標 11小時前 Biased, but I think Mitchell's clearly passed Tatum (and I like Tatum a lot) 很難說,但我覺得米切爾很明顯超過了塔圖姆(雖然我很喜歡塔圖姆)。 [–][CLE] Kevin LoveSartuk 37 指標 7小時前 Really hard to say. Mitchell is carrying such an extreme load for a rookie guard and is doing a tremendously great job as of late, but his shooting struggles in the beginning of the season were significant (37.1% from the field through 19 games with a 46.8% TS%). He's been obscenely good since then (26.1 a game with a 66.7% TS%) and if he even comes close to keeping up anywhere near that (say 22 a game with a 58% TS%) I'd give him the nod. 真的很難說。米切爾作為一名新秀後衛正扛著隊伍往前走而他的表現可以說是十分亮眼了 ,但他開賽期間的投籃命中率實在有點辣眼睛(37.1%的命中率和46.8%的真實命中率)。 但從他找到手感之後就變好了很多(66.7%的真實命中率場均砍下26.1分),如果他能保 持這樣的手感到賽季結束(比如說58%的真實命中率場均砍下22分),那我絕對會說他是 17年最好的新秀。 But right now, Tatum is 14/5.5 with a 64.8% TS% over the entire year in almost the opposite scenario: his role offensively is less than it could be on a different team. Far less. It's almost criminal that he only has a 17.7% usage rate. He's in a great position to succeed efficiency wise, but he's being put in a very poor position to rack up scoring quantity numbers. Mitchell is the exact opposite: he's getting every chance to shine with the points, but his efficiency is suffering (although not in his last 5 games, obviously!). 但現在來說,不管對手是誰,塔圖姆正以64.8的真實命中率穩如狗地場均砍下14分並能摘 下5.5個籃板:塔圖姆現在扮演的進攻角色相比如果他在其他球隊會低很多。他的使用率 才剛到17.7%啊!他現在正處於一只能高效贏球的球隊中,但對他個人而言,他正處於對 自己出手數量的不利條件中。而米切爾則正好相反,他得到了每一個展示自己的機會,但 他的效率卻大打折扣(但顯然不是他的上五場比賽!)。 So long story short, right now I'd still give the nod to Tatum since Mitchell's first 4/5 of this season weren't great. I'm very much open to adjusting that though, and again I want to note comparing these guys is so, so, so tough due to the different roles they have on their respective teams. 所以長話短說,目前為止我會投塔圖姆一票因為米切爾目前80%的比賽都打的不是這麼好 。但我對我的觀點持開放態度,再次申明基於他們倆在不同球隊擔任的不同角色,我想繼 續對比他們之後的表現。 [–]turdferguson94 71 指標 9小時前 He's the best player on his team already. Tatum is still the 3rd/4th. Mitchell has been the Jazz go to guy. Against the Thunder the other night, he was guarding Paul George, being guarded by George/Roberson on offense, on a back to back, and still dropped 31. Tatum isn't doing that yet. 米切爾已經是隊伍中最好的球員了。而塔圖姆還仍然是第三或者第四好的球員。米切爾已 經成為爵士的基石球員了。在對陣雷霆的那晚,他負責防守保羅-喬治而負責防守他的是 喬治和羅伯森的連環組合,就這樣他還拿下了31分。塔圖姆現在還耍不來這個。 [–]Knicksnyalriv580 54 指標 10小時前* If there's anyone the Knicks "should have drafted," it's Donovan Mitchell. Home grown New York kid that is intelligent, modest, high character and ready now. He's 3 years older than Ntilikina so hopefully in time we see some real growth from him, but damn would Mitchell be looking real nice in orange and blue. 尼克斯球迷:如果有一個人是屬於尼克斯“應該選他”系列的,那就是多諾萬-米切爾。 土生土長的紐約小夥,聰慧,謙遜,有天賦並且時刻準備著上場打球。他比尼利基納大三 歲所以但願我們能看見他有所成長,但TMD米切爾如果穿尼克斯隊服肯定帥爆了。 https://bbs.hupu.com/20923947.html -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 118.233.93.166 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/UTAH-JAZZ/M.1512881291.A.5A7.html
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