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這個問題當然不只是醫學上的問題 很多牽扯到政治正確與否 但既然在這裡醫學生版 也許我們可以單純以醫學角度來看 相信很多人都有在看 NEJM 當興趣 2017年01月有一篇相關的文章 Rethinking the Ban — The U.S. Blood Supply and Men Who Have Sex with Men N Engl J Med. 2017 Jan 12;376(2):174-177. doi: 10.1056/NEJMms1613425. Epub 2016 Nov 16. 提到近35年來最大的兩個進展 1. Progressive shortening of the window period HIV RNA 空窗期縮短到 9 ~ 14 天 2. Improvements in the test's sensitivity sensitivity of HIV testing 97.3% in 1985 --> 100% in 2016 使感染機率降低 risk of HIV transmission 1 in 1.5 million 而這與自我管控(self-deferal)無關 很快就有不少回應 Changes in France’s Deferral of Blood Donation by Men Who Have Sex with Men N Engl J Med. 2017 Apr 13;376(15):1485-1486. doi: 10.1056/NEJMc1700740. 根據法國統計(French national surveillance system for blood donors,2011-2015) 108 / 142 donors (76%) who were found to be HIV-positive were men. 82 / 108 有資料可回朔 49 / 82 (60%) reported having had sex with men. 20 / 22 (91%)HIV nucleic acid–positive, antibody-negative donors were men 11 / 20 were MSM 在香港也有篇論文 Low compliance of men having sex with men with self-deferral from blood donation in a Chinese population Blood Transfus. 2014 Apr; 12(2): 166–171. doi: 10.2450/2013.0103-13 Over a 6-week period in 2012, 250 MSM, three-quarters of whom were aged between 16 and 30 years old 119/ 250 (47.6%) 曾捐血. 90/ 119 (75.6%) 是重複捐血者 約 1/3 每3至6個月捐血一次 但與非捐血者比較 a higher proportion of blood donors had had anal sex (OR:2.39) and multiple partners (OR:1.53) in the preceding year while their condom usage rate was similar non-compliance的原因 (1) belief of their right to donate (53.8% giving this as the main reason) (2) confidence about the safety of their blood at the time of donation (43.7% as the main reason) 這兩篇都顯示一件事 自我管控機制是失效的.... 但是否因此要全面撤除自我管控 我認為不適合 與其全部在檯面下隱藏 反而翻到檯面上可以藉此收集相關數據與管理 至於血要不要用 如何用 那又是另一件事了 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 61.222.1.181 ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/medstudent/M.1516680476.A.B3F.html ※ 編輯: cerberi (61.222.1.181), 01/23/2018 12:08:28 ※ 編輯: cerberi (61.222.1.181), 01/23/2018 12:13:58
holyhelm: 香港那篇 夭壽喔.... 01/23 12:31
cerberi: 對呀 那篇真的很可怕 我覺得台灣應該也要做個類似的 01/23 14:20
cerberi: 才能顯示現在的實際情況 01/23 14:21
rucwmj273b: 香港那篇嚇到 還重新看一遍確認沒看錯... 01/23 14:22
cerberi: 2016 transfusion也有一篇 non-compliance is evident 01/23 14:27
Rogozov: 學術推 01/23 15:14
kuromu: . 01/23 16:16
ron761230: 所以之前香港管制不要捐還是會隱瞞照捐 01/23 17:10
ron761230: 不知道有沒有愛滋比例 01/23 17:11
cooksocu: 推學術,比一堆鄉民好,只會推保險套嫖妓 01/23 18:01
EBVirus: 如果有數據可以證明放寬之後,non compliance的比例會上 01/23 18:20
EBVirus: 升,甚至是空窗期捐血的比例會上升,這樣來反對放寬才比 01/23 18:20
EBVirus: 較有意義? 01/23 18:20
cooksocu: 在醫言醫 醫界都不學術 難怪一堆鄉民告醫生告爽告感覺 01/23 18:42
cooksocu: 的 01/23 18:42
holyhelm: 一班嚴格標準才會造成順從性差,雖然我覺得這種硬要對著 01/23 19:02
holyhelm: 幹要硬捐的沒差就是了 01/23 19:02
D98421101: 知情同意,告知風險 01/23 19:37
D98421101: 這袋血是同志捐的,您要接受輸血嗎? 01/23 19:38
seiko2023: 煩馬偕感染科? 噗噗噗~^_^ 01/23 19:47
seiko2023: 真是有人玻璃碎滿地啊~ 01/23 19:47
snow30288: 學術推~香港那篇真的扯= = 01/23 22:15
mightymouse: 香港那篇真的猛,不過正反方都能各自解讀 01/24 08:54
xxline: 等人來噓這篇 01/24 13:44
Ziiploc: 香港那篇,不就是調查出很多同志都還是有在捐血嗎? 01/24 23:03
Ziiploc: 不小心噓到,等等補推 01/24 23:04
Ziiploc: 不過的確證明自我管控就是沒用啦 01/24 23:16