作者cerberi (cerberi)
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標題Re: [新聞] 衛福部取消男同志不得捐血禁令
時間Tue Jan 23 12:07:53 2018
這個問題當然不只是醫學上的問題
很多牽扯到政治正確與否
但既然在這裡醫學生版
也許我們可以單純以醫學角度來看
相信很多人都有在看 NEJM 當興趣
2017年01月有一篇相關的文章
Rethinking the Ban — The U.S. Blood Supply and Men Who Have Sex with Men
N Engl J Med. 2017 Jan 12;376(2):174-177.
doi: 10.1056/NEJMms1613425. Epub 2016 Nov 16.
提到近35年來最大的兩個進展
1. Progressive shortening of the window period
HIV RNA 空窗期縮短到 9 ~ 14 天
2. Improvements in the test's sensitivity
sensitivity of HIV testing
97.3% in 1985 --> 100% in 2016
使感染機率降低 risk of HIV transmission
1 in 1.5 million
而這與自我管控(self-deferal)無關
很快就有不少回應
Changes in France’s Deferral of Blood Donation by Men Who Have Sex with Men
N Engl J Med. 2017 Apr 13;376(15):1485-1486.
doi: 10.1056/NEJMc1700740.
根據法國統計(French national surveillance system for blood donors,2011-2015)
108 / 142 donors (76%) who were found to be HIV-positive were men.
82 / 108 有資料可回朔
49 / 82 (60%) reported having had sex with men.
20 / 22 (91%)HIV nucleic acid–positive, antibody-negative donors were men
11 / 20 were MSM
在香港也有篇論文
Low compliance of men having sex with men with self-deferral from blood
donation in a Chinese population
Blood Transfus. 2014 Apr; 12(2): 166–171.
doi: 10.2450/2013.0103-13
Over a 6-week period in 2012, 250 MSM,
three-quarters of whom were aged between 16 and 30 years old
119/ 250 (47.6%) 曾捐血.
90/ 119 (75.6%) 是重複捐血者
約 1/3 每3至6個月捐血一次
但與非捐血者比較
a higher proportion of blood donors had had anal sex (OR:2.39)
and multiple partners (OR:1.53) in the preceding year
while their condom usage rate was similar
non-compliance的原因
(1) belief of their right to donate (53.8% giving this as the main reason)
(2) confidence about the safety of their blood at the time of donation
(43.7% as the main reason)
這兩篇都顯示一件事
自我管控機制是失效的....
但是否因此要全面撤除自我管控
我認為不適合
與其全部在檯面下隱藏
反而翻到檯面上可以藉此收集相關數據與管理
至於血要不要用 如何用
那又是另一件事了
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※ 編輯: cerberi (61.222.1.181), 01/23/2018 12:08:28
※ 編輯: cerberi (61.222.1.181), 01/23/2018 12:13:58
推 holyhelm: 香港那篇 夭壽喔.... 01/23 12:31
→ cerberi: 對呀 那篇真的很可怕 我覺得台灣應該也要做個類似的 01/23 14:20
→ cerberi: 才能顯示現在的實際情況 01/23 14:21
推 rucwmj273b: 香港那篇嚇到 還重新看一遍確認沒看錯... 01/23 14:22
→ cerberi: 2016 transfusion也有一篇 non-compliance is evident 01/23 14:27
推 Rogozov: 學術推 01/23 15:14
推 kuromu: . 01/23 16:16
推 ron761230: 所以之前香港管制不要捐還是會隱瞞照捐 01/23 17:10
→ ron761230: 不知道有沒有愛滋比例 01/23 17:11
推 cooksocu: 推學術,比一堆鄉民好,只會推保險套嫖妓 01/23 18:01
→ EBVirus: 如果有數據可以證明放寬之後,non compliance的比例會上 01/23 18:20
→ EBVirus: 升,甚至是空窗期捐血的比例會上升,這樣來反對放寬才比 01/23 18:20
→ EBVirus: 較有意義? 01/23 18:20
推 cooksocu: 在醫言醫 醫界都不學術 難怪一堆鄉民告醫生告爽告感覺 01/23 18:42
→ cooksocu: 的 01/23 18:42
→ holyhelm: 一班嚴格標準才會造成順從性差,雖然我覺得這種硬要對著 01/23 19:02
→ holyhelm: 幹要硬捐的沒差就是了 01/23 19:02
推 D98421101: 知情同意,告知風險 01/23 19:37
→ D98421101: 這袋血是同志捐的,您要接受輸血嗎? 01/23 19:38
推 seiko2023: 煩馬偕感染科? 噗噗噗~^_^ 01/23 19:47
→ seiko2023: 真是有人玻璃碎滿地啊~ 01/23 19:47
推 snow30288: 學術推~香港那篇真的扯= = 01/23 22:15
推 mightymouse: 香港那篇真的猛,不過正反方都能各自解讀 01/24 08:54
→ xxline: 等人來噓這篇 01/24 13:44
噓 Ziiploc: 香港那篇,不就是調查出很多同志都還是有在捐血嗎? 01/24 23:03
→ Ziiploc: 不小心噓到,等等補推 01/24 23:04
推 Ziiploc: 不過的確證明自我管控就是沒用啦 01/24 23:16