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Famous and rich people can feel sad and awful enough to end themselves too. Much of our psychological pain stems from feeling less than our peers, resulting in shame, anger, and despair, because we 'should've' been able to do as well as our peers. Which begs the question, who do we consider as our peers? Our relatives? Our schoolmates? Our colleagues, or fellow mental health survivors? Is it a social tribe that we identify with? Been reading Primates on Park Avenue, and it turns out life on the Upper East Side is hella scary, and living inside the community forces the author to adopt the currency that applies to this social tribe: immaculate physical appearance and the ability to 'be on the in' with many sought after opportunities. There's this struggle with being authentic and move at one's own pace versus being approved and respected by this community you live in. If I could view myself as a different species than my parents or my classmates, maybe there would be less self-loathing. What is a reasonable standard that is achievable but also inspires, tailored especially for me? If we have to compare to gauge our progress, what is the bar? -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc), 來自: 24.148.7.230 (美國) ※ 文章網址: https://www.ptt.cc/bbs/prozac/M.1630211443.A.002.html
littlewren: whatever you do, don't compare 08/29 13:24
littlewren: if you have to, compare with your past self. 08/29 13:25
isaki1987: That’s the thing though, comparing with past self 08/29 13:29
isaki1987: also doesn’t work because I didn’t have depressio 08/29 13:29
isaki1987: n back then...and then I’ve been pretty much stagn 08/29 13:29
isaki1987: ant since depression 08/29 13:29
hesione: Comparison/feeling inferior is not the only (or eve 08/29 19:44
hesione: n the major, in my opinion) reason that those with 08/29 19:44
hesione: social achievement to feel miserable. I think the b 08/29 19:44
hesione: ook is rather a narrow perspectives/simplicity towa 08/29 19:45
hesione: rds the issue (if comparison is the central topic). 08/29 19:45
hesione: Unfortunately human beings are more complex than t 08/29 19:45
hesione: hat, which means, you can still feel hopelessness a 08/29 19:45
hesione: nd despair, even when you "subjectively" believe yo 08/29 19:45
hesione: u are on par with your peers. 08/29 19:45
isaki1987: That is quite true, people can be miserable having 08/29 21:26
isaki1987: things other desire but lacking what truly makes th 08/29 21:26
isaki1987: e individual happy regardless of social norm 08/29 21:26
Belieeve: Well if u have a humanitarian value set of what’s i 08/30 01:37
Belieeve: mportant to u within, that u may evaluate the world 08/30 01:38
Belieeve: in less competitive ways. 08/30 01:38
Belieeve: Have been trying this approach myself recently. 08/30 01:47
isaki1987: That’s a good approach 08/30 05:34