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標題: [外電] 湖人巨星正在傷害他的球隊嗎?
時間: Wed Dec 12 01:05:11 2012


這篇用了三個Play的影片來解釋Kobe在防守上的錯誤，值得參考

http://nba.si.com/2012/12/10/kobe-bryant-los-angeles-lakers-court-vision/


Kobe Bryant gambles a ton on defense. When those gambles pay off, limited
opponents can be completely handcuffed by that additional ball pressure. When
Kobe is caught cheating off his man, the Lakers pay for it with uncontested
layups, open threes and necessary fouls. He puts his team in a horrible
position on an all too frequent basis, as Darius Soriano illustrates in his
video breakdown of some of Bryant’s more annoying defensive habits:

科比有太多的賭博性防守了，當這些賭博成功時，對手就會受到更多壓迫而打得拘束

但是當他失敗時，湖人就要因此付出代價:無人防守的上籃、空檔三分球和必要的犯規

他常常讓球隊陷入很糟糕的處境:就如Darius Soriano在他的影片中解釋科比那擾人的

防守習慣:

http://0rz.tw/v6yxQ

Lakers’ Defensive Problems Include Kobe Bryant

湖人的防守問題包含了科比

The Lakers’ have fundamental problems on D, mostly related to denying
dribble penetration and how they don’t always help the helper. Any team can
make the first rotation just fine, but the difference between a solid defense
and an elite one is the ability to make the second and third rotation on any
given possession. Right now, the Lakers don’t make those late possession
rotations very well and they’re paying for it.

湖人的防守有相當根本的問題，通常是在防止切入和第二波的幫忙防守

許多隊都能在第一次的轉換防守做得不錯，但不錯的防守和很好的防守的差別就在於

在做第二次和第三次防守轉換時的應變能力，現在，湖人隊就是沒辦法作好這後者，

他們也因此付出代價

But those are the big picture issues. On an individual level, this defense is
failing countless times over the course of the game. And while no one is
immune, there are players whose bad habits are sticking out like a sore
thumb. And while it may be difficult for some people to hear, one of the
chief culprits is Kobe Bryant.

但除此之外還有更大的問題在，在個人防守方面，比賽過程中防守已經出現無數的失誤了

當然沒有人是免疫的，有些球員的防守壞習慣就被突顯出來，這對有些人來說很難入耳

但最大的罪魁禍首是科比。

Mr. Bean may be playing his heart out on offense (we’ll get to this later)
but he’s not showing that same commitment to the defensive side of the ball.
There are multiple possessions each game in which he makes fundamental
mistakes and it’s costing the Lakers. Again, he’s not alone. But as a
leader of the team, he needs to be doing better.

科比可能在進攻上耗費太多心力了(等等會提到)但他在防守端卻沒有拿出相當的貢獻

他在每場比賽中都犯下不少的根本錯誤，這也傷害到湖人。但他也不是唯一一個人，

只是他身為球隊領袖就要做得更好。

One of Kobe’s chief mistakes is that he gets caught watching the ball too
often

其中一個錯誤就是他太常盯著球看

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=2u2YhHAcXmI

On this play, Kobe is playing on the weak side and his man (Gordon Hayward)
is in the corner. Kobe is intently watching the ball on the strong side wing
while peeking at the action in the paint to see if the ball is going to be
whipped into one of the Jazz big men off their interior screen action. While
all that’s happening, Hayward cut back door. Kobe, never once looking at his
man, only reacted to the pass and fouled a mid-air Hayward who was trying to
make the catch.

在以上的影片中，科比在弱邊而他所看管的人(Hayward)在底角，科比就盯著球看

看是不是球會落到內部擋拆的長人手上，這時Hayward就從後門跑進去，而科比從頭到尾

都沒在盯他的人，只能以撈球並對在空中試著接球的Haywar犯規收尾。

At the lowest levels of organized basketball, players are asked to see the
ball and their man. Kobe loses his man at the very start of this possession
and never found him again until committing the foul.
Kobe also has a nasty habit of watching the ball and going for steals that
aren’t that likely, and compromising the rest of the defense in the process:


在最低等的球賽中，球員會被要求盯球時也要盯人，科比一開始就丟失他的人，直到犯規

才找到他在哪，科比同時也有一個盯著球看準備抄不太可能抄到的球的壞習慣，讓當次防

守失去了效果。

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8HS32uXx98&feature=player_embedded

On this play Kobe is guarding DeMarre Carroll, who starts on the strong side
but then drifts to the weak side as the Jazz run a sideline P&R. Once Carroll
clears the side, Kobe again is mostly watching the ball and cheating towards
Enes Kanter who is setting up for a mid-range jumper. The ball never goes to
Kanter, however, and instead is skipped to Carroll spotting up on the wing.
Kobe tries to steal the pass, fails, and then doesn’t recover to Carroll
quick enough to deny penetration. Meeks, hoping to try and play two players,
cheats off the strong side corner (a cardinal sin in basketball) to help on
Carroll. Like Kobe, Meeks is unsuccessful in slowing Carroll but also gives
up the pass to the corner. Hayward makes the Lakers pay by hitting the wide
open three.

這球科比在防守Carroll，他一開始在強邊，後來在爵士執行了一個擋拆後跑到弱邊

當Carroll清出空間後，科比這時又在盯著球看，並往準備接球跳投的Kanter那側靠攏

但是這球卻往在右翼的Carroll手上傳去，科比試著攔截這球但失敗了，回來的太晚而

無法阻止Carroll的切入。而Meeks希望能一次防守兩個球員，也往強邊靠攏

(這在籃球可是要不得的錯誤)來幫忙防守Carroll，也因此漏了在底線的Hayward，

他也因此投進了這個空檔三分。


Kobe’s mistakes here aren’t so drastic but he made several on that single
play. Going for the steal was likely the worst offense since it put him in a
position where he couldn’t contain the penetration of his man. Scouting
tells you that Carroll isn’t a three point shooter so denying his drive is
the number one goal of defending him. Once Kobe let Carroll get by him, the
greater integrity of the defense was compromised and that was that.

科比在這邊的錯誤並不是很嚴重，但他卻做了很多個。想要抄截是最糟糕的想法，因為這

會讓他失去他可以防守切入的位置，球探報告說Carroll並不是一個三分射手，所以要守

他應該是守切入就可以了。當科比讓Carroll越過他時防守的凝聚度就被打壞了。


http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IWHzE4x_sAA

On this last possession, Kobe simply plays a lazy brand of defense that hurt
the Lakers on two separate occasions:

最後這個影片科比展現了他防守端懶惰的一面，並在兩個情況下傷害了湖人。

This play starts with Kobe on the left baseline guarding Randy Foye. The Jazz
run a screen action to free Foye coming across the lane. When Ron’s man
comes to screen Kobe, you see him not want to fight through the pick and
calls out a late switch to Ron. This leads to Foye getting a wide open jumper
that Ron barely contested due to the timing of the switch. To make matters
worse, after switching onto Marvin Williams, Kobe didn’t box out and allowed
Williams to sneak underneath Howard to tip in the missed shot. Two lazy plays
on one possession for Kobe, there.

這球科比在左邊的底線防守Randy Foye，爵士跑了一個單擋的戰術讓Foye可以切入底邊

當世平的人來擋科比時，我們發現他並不想要努力繞過這個單擋，

並且很遲才叫世平換過去防守，這個轉換時間讓Foye得到了一個兩分跳投的大空檔，

當他轉換防到Marvin Williams之後，他也不努力去卡位讓Marvin Williams可以

繞過DH去做一個補籃的動作，兩個防守偷懶。

While I’m singling out Kobe here, he’s not the only one playing this way.
On one of the first plays of the game, Ron got beat on an alley oop to Marvin
Williams where he was watching the ball similar to Kobe in the first clip. I
could have put up multiple clips of Jamison losing his man on screens and
getting beat off the dribble, not only from the Jazz game but from every game
this season. If the Lakers’ defensive problems were a one man issue, that
would be simple enough. They’re not and that complicates matters a great
deal.

雖然我只拿科比出來討論，但他並不是隊上唯一這麼做的人。在一開始的幾個play裡

世平也犯了和第一個影片中科比相同的錯誤並讓Williams做了個輕鬆空中接力，我也可以

拿出很多影片來講Jamison在單檔中丟失了對手並且輕鬆被過。不只是這場，還有很多場

都是如此。如果湖人只是一個人防守出問題那還簡單，但情況不是這樣，這讓事情很複雜

What further complicates things is that Kobe is a major culprit. His off-ball
defense stands out as particularly poor this year. He’s gambling for steals,
losing sight of his man, and roaming in ways that make the team’s defense
structurally unsound. In essence, Kobe is making the easy choice way too
often rather than making the harder play that is more taxing physically.

讓事情更複雜的是科比是主要的罪魁禍首，他這季的無球防守做得相當差，

他因為賭博抄截而漏掉他自己的人，在場上夢遊而讓團隊防守受到破壞

簡單的說，科比選擇用輕鬆的方式去防守，而不是用較艱難並消耗更多體力的方式

In a way, this is easy to understand. Kobe is playing heavy minutes (44 hard
ones against the Jazz) and is carrying a tremendous burden on offense. The
energy he’s expending on that side of the ball is massive and to think that
won’t affect him in other areas would be a silly conclusion, especially for
a 17 year veteran. That said, he’s clearly coasting on defense in order to
conserve energy on offense and that simply won’t do. Not only does it hurt
the team in countless tangible ways, it sets a bad example for how the team
needs to play on that end of the floor.

這就某方面很好理解，科比上場時間很久(對爵士上了44分鐘)而且在進攻端有

很沉重的負擔，他在那邊花費太多精力，如果認為他不會被這些影響到就太蠢了

尤其是他已經是打十七年的老人了。就是說呢，他在防守端忽攸是為了儲存用來

進攻的能量，但是這樣是不行的唷。這樣不止會對球隊各種傷害，也給球隊在防守時

一個壞的示範。

Dwight Howard was brought in to help solve some of the Lakers’ defensive
woes. And, he too can be better than he has been. But he can’t make up for
everyone’s mistakes. Jamison and Duhon are turnstiles on D. Ron is getting
beat more this season than in year’s past. And Kobe, as shown, isn’t
holding up his end of the bargain. As a leader and a yearly member of the
all-defensive team, he needs to be better.

湖人隊買DH來是要解決一些防守問題，而且他是可以比之前做得更好的。但他也不能為

每個人的錯誤擦屁股，Jamison和Duhon在防守上是旋轉門，世平也不如過往般精明

而科比在這方面上更是沒做好。身為一個常常入選防守第一二隊的球隊領袖，

他必須要做得更好。

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※ 轉錄者: lesnaree2 (220.136.172.209), 時間: 12/12/2012 01:09:21
推 Ayreon      :大象大象你的鼻子為什麼那麼長
推 Rizzi       :講那麼多廢話最後防守第一隊還不是有KB?
推 Hastings    :KOBE的北鼻地獄比較強
※ 編輯: lesnaree2       來自: 220.136.172.209      (12/12 01:12)
推 zed9104     :摳鼻  北鼻地獄
推 shihchinlun :極端中肯
推 oicecnir    :科比跟不到自己要盯的人前面幾場都有看到過
推 katanakiller:老大可是看牌子守的那些小咖才不屑浪費力氣去守
推 ez0980      :等等會有睡不著的迷迷來噓你
推 bredka      :沒差 依舊是防守第一隊呀
推 evonre      :湖人暑假一次弄了三個旋轉門進來，現在才在哀防守
→ evonre      :真好笑..
推 bfetter     :KO me mayBE
→ newti       :科比為什麼一直盯著球看?他想要對持球隊員說 give me
推 ayaerika    :科比永遠不會有錯  有錯也是they 的過
推 globekjller :不相信........................
→ seabox      :阿鼻地獄
→ Atwo        :感覺明天湖人要贏了
→ newti       :the got damn ball嗎?
→ globekjller :只是拿放大鏡在看而已....
→ globekjller :任誰都會被防守很濫
推 opwin       :湖人付三千萬給一個不防守的出手機器 還真是凱
推 discoco     :連湖人版都一堆人在講KB的防守.. 這裡還有人不信XD
※ 編輯: lesnaree2       來自: 220.136.172.209      (12/12 01:26)
推 globekjller :那他們打過NBA嗎？
推 ldstar      :迷迷又不是第一次無腦護航了  習慣就好 ~~
推 bulletproof :你們幹嘛這樣 迷迷裡面也是有部分有腦的 才會轉來阿
推 ice80712    :老大防守要你教? 你比老大懂籃球?
→ Sixfeetdeep :半夜大絕無雙條集得好快~
推 douglasyeh  :啊就老了咩...
推 djcc        :===========顆顆  絕殺球隊  豪無僥倖==============
推 overmaster  :怎麼可能是kobe的錯 你沒看到他在進攻端多忙嗎
→ djcc        :明天對東區墊底的騎士  不贏那真的有人要自盡了
推 wadeawp     :迷迷這麼快就開大絕 等等沒招可放怎辦?
→ chinhan1216 :我比老大懂得要怎樣跟好一個人
推 bahamutuh   :反正只要老大拿到30+分 迷迷就會高潮 其他都不管了
推 KANGTA23    :  5冠81   不解釋
推 ibsmalla    :摳比進一球漏兩球慘
推 scottiting  :阿鼻地獄成為歷史囉
推 kshs930709  :不會 還是讓湖人身處地獄
噓 rex9999     :相信雷哥：摳逼的最佳防守球員是笑話。湖人落後主因
推 s4511981    :啊 怎麼這麼快就放大絕？
噓 jumpballfan :跟看嗨賴每人都喬神上身一樣 拿放大鏡當然覺得科比爛
推 shoray      :就是有樓上這種湖迷xxd
→ shoray      :就是有樓上這種湖迷xxd
推 frankmaki   :kobe：怪我囉！是隊友太廢，連防守都不懂
推 virus2007   :現在Kobe的防守頗有旋轉門的味道
推 GianniC     :阿鼻地獄是哪個迷迷發明的??
推 ntusimmon   :迷迷的第一SG標準就這樣：自幹、防守懶、戰績不怎樣
噓 shin30      :不可質疑你的摳比
→ ntusimmon   :觀念都不行了
推 DabouLin    :老大盯著球看很正常 只想快點拿到球出手 當然盯著看
→ serendipity :zzz  難道以為比老大懂籃球？
推 danifilth   :哈哈 一堆彌彌
推 hally       :你知道的太多了!你要科迷怎麼辦？
推 serval623   :中肯
→ hally       :科比不爛，只是被捧的太扯
推 hally       :他防守的程度和lbj,mj差太遠
推 ya5698      :球隊沒有防守意志就沒救了
推 permoon     :Kobe連防守的時候眼中都只有球.........
推 Wolfken     :KB這種防守還能入第一隊,真的是很莫名其妙,那個都是
→ Wolfken     :看誰大牌就選誰吧...
→ j3307002    :不可質疑你的摳比XD
推 Vedan1213   :太常盯著球看XD