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原文: The synapses that horizontal cells make with receptors are likewise unusual, lacking the electron-microscopic features that would normally tell us which way the information is conveyed. It is clear that receptors feed information to horizontal cells through excitatory synapses because horizontal cells, like re-ceptors,are in most cases hyperpolarized, or turned off, by light. It is less clear where the horizontal cell sends its output: in some species such as turtles we know that they feed information back to receptors;in other species they make synapses with the dendrites of bipolar cells and doubtless feed into them;in primates we do not have either type of information. In summary, horizontal cells get their input from receptors; their output is still uncertain, but is either back to receptors, or to bipolar cells, or to both. 我的翻譯: 長出接受器的水平細胞之突觸是同樣地異常, acking the electron-microscopic features that would normally tell us which way the information is conveyed. 我們很清楚的知道受器藉由刺激性突觸接受資訊傳達給水平細胞,因為水平細胞和 受器一樣,很可能是過度極化或受光線影響而停止。 比較不清楚的是,水平細胞是由哪裡輸出訊息:我們知道像海龜這種種類會傳回訊息 給受器,其他種類則 make synapses with the dendrites of bipolar cells and doubtless feed into them ;我們沒有關於靈長類的這方面資訊。 總之,水平細胞從受器得到輸入的訊息,而它們的輸出訊息仍然不確定,但也是傳回受器 或雙極細胞,或者兩者皆有。 ps.有些真的不知道該怎麼翻,所以一樣寫英文... 我翻的很怪,希望高人指點....thanks -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 140.128.142.243
graci:為什麼感覺之前有人番過類似的? 12/13 22:38
oophs:可是這是我的作業,下面的翻譯也是我自己翻的欸 12/13 22:40
TheRock:這一篇的譯文看起來比較有誠意一點。 :p 12/13 23:20
TheRock:可是還是差很多。如果是作業,應該前有上課,你都蹺課嗎? 12/13 23:21
oophs:不不...這是組長給的資料,要我翻譯。 我沒翹課呀.... 12/13 23:29
TheRock:沒蹺課的話,作業應該寫得出來吧。 =_="+ 12/13 23:34
oophs:痾......... 12/13 23:37
abfahren:第一句就有點問題了…我覺得是:水平細胞與接受器(通常 12/13 23:44
abfahren:也會翻成"受體")間形成的突觸也同樣地不尋常。 12/13 23:45
oophs:嗯嗯,我自己翻完第一句也覺得超怪 12/14 00:01
oophs:我有想翻成"受體",但最後還是翻成"接受器" 12/14 00:02
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- < 作者: graci (寧夏) 看板: translator 標題: Re: [問題] 關於醫學生物方面的文章 英翻中 時間: Thu Dec 14 05:46:31 2006 ※ 引述《TheRock (我相信自己做得到￾ NI》之銘言: : ※ 引述《oophs (圈圈叉叉)》之銘言: : : 原文: : : The synapses that horizontal cells make with receptors are likewise unusual, : : lacking the electron-microscopic features that would normally tell us which : : way the information is conveyed. : : It is clear that receptors feed information to horizontal cells through : : excitatory synapses because horizontal cells, : : like re-ceptors,are in most cases hyperpolarized, or turned off, by light. : : It is less clear where the horizontal cell sends its output: : : in some species such as turtles we know that they feed information back to : : receptors;in other species they make synapses with the dendrites of bipolar : : cells and doubtless feed into them;in primates we do not have either type of : : information. In summary, horizontal cells get their input from receptors; : : their output is still uncertain, but is either back to receptors, or to : : bipolar cells, or to both. : 水平細胞與受器連接的突觸也同樣不尋常:在電子顯微鏡下,它們缺乏通常可告訴我 : 們資訊傳遞方向的特徵。受器會透過興奮性突觸將資訊傳送給水平細胞這點是很明確 : 的,因為水平細胞和受器一樣,在大多情況下會被光線超極化(或關閉)。但水平細 : 胞在何處傳出資訊就比較不明確了。在一些如烏龜之類的物種上,我們知道水平細胞 : 會將資訊回傳給受器;在其他物種身上,水平細胞則以突觸和雙極細胞的樹突相連且 : 無疑會向其傳遞資訊;至於在靈長類身上,我們還沒看到其中任何一種資訊。總的來 : 說,水平細胞由受器接受輸入資訊;資訊的輸出方向則還不清楚,但如不是傳回受器 : ,就是傳給雙極細胞,或者就兩者都傳。 翻得好棒喔! 但是我有看到幾個可以如果改了會比較接近醫學生理的term, 在醫學生理學裡面 information 似乎稱做 訊息 會比較恰當 hyperpolarization 的中文有個專門名詞.... 過極化 是在去極化之後K+過度湧入突觸後細胞所造成的 make synapse 可以翻成 形成突觸.. 因為神經細胞之間不一定會產生實體的連結, 有的有,有的沒有,如果用互相連接的話,讀者可能會產生誤解 請多多指教 -- I'm human, I'm temperamental, I'm guilty, and I'm ovulating! -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.224.48.114 ※ 編輯: graci 來自: 61.224.48.114 (12/14 05:48)
TheRock:此誠所謂術業有專攻是也!業餘醫學書籍讀者畢竟是業餘 XD 12/14 08:11
TheRock:受教了,譯文已依閣下寶貴建議予以調整。 =) 12/14 08:12
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------- < 作者: TheRock (我相信自己做得到￾ NI 看板: translator 標題: Re: [問題] 關於醫學生物方面的文章 英翻中 時間: Thu Dec 14 00:19:25 2006 ※ 引述《oophs (圈圈叉叉)》之銘言: : 原文: : The synapses that horizontal cells make with receptors are likewise unusual, : lacking the electron-microscopic features that would normally tell us which : way the information is conveyed. : It is clear that receptors feed information to horizontal cells through : excitatory synapses because horizontal cells, : like re-ceptors,are in most cases hyperpolarized, or turned off, by light. : It is less clear where the horizontal cell sends its output: : in some species such as turtles we know that they feed information back to : receptors;in other species they make synapses with the dendrites of bipolar : cells and doubtless feed into them;in primates we do not have either type of : information. In summary, horizontal cells get their input from receptors; : their output is still uncertain, but is either back to receptors, or to : bipolar cells, or to both. 水平細胞與受器間形成的突觸也同樣不尋常:在電子顯微鏡下,它們缺乏通常可告訴 我們訊息傳遞方向的特徵。受器會透過興奮性突觸將訊息傳送給水平細胞這點是很明 確的,因為水平細胞和受器一樣,在大多情況下會被光線過極化(或關閉)。但水平 細胞在何處傳出資訊就比較不明確了。在一些如烏龜之類的物種上,我們知道水平細 胞會將訊息傳回受器;在其他物種身上,水平細胞則和雙極細胞的樹突形成突觸且無 疑會向其傳遞訊息;至於在靈長類身上,我們還沒看到其中任何一種訊息。總的來說 ,水平細胞由受器接受輸入訊息;訊息的輸出方向則還不清楚,但如不是傳回受器, 就是傳給雙極細胞,或者兩者都傳。 -- ※ 發信站: 批踢踢實業坊(ptt.cc) ◆ From: 61.218.0.48
chiya666:TheRock真是好人 乾脆也幫我翻一段吧 XD 12/14 00:32
egghead:您這玩笑開大了. 12/14 01:07
oophs:非常感謝T大,還有謝謝其他版友.... 12/14 01:09
oophs:這次我是真的自己翻的...但是我知道我翻的很糟糕,所以才 12/14 01:10
oophs:求助於大家,真的非常謝謝 12/14 01:10
TheRock:以小的目前的實力,應該是沒辦法。 :p 12/14 01:09
※ 編輯: TheRock 來自: 61.218.0.48 (12/14 08:16)