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我們看到th可以如此不負法律責任及良心責任的造謠
造完一個謠又一個，我們則是要不斷揪出他如何造謠，然後他拍拍屁股就不認
※ 引述《theologe (表達你我的信仰~)》之銘言：
: 延續#1RUOXdna推文處tf建議的「反律主義」探討：
: 這篇摘要介紹了那時路德處理的爭論，比較好懂一點
: https://lutheranreformation.org/history/the-antinomian-disputations/
: 有些句子我真的看到板上兩造辯論的影子！
: "Agricola and the Antinomians did not deny the presence of sin in the life o
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: the Christian. However, they saw the Law as a dead letter, which by no means
: could bring about repentance. Repentance is brought about by the work of the
: Holy Spirit, as Jesus teaches in John 14-16, and the antinomians operated
: with the idea that the Holy Spirit did not work through the Law. Instead,
: they believed that the Holy Spirit operates only in the Gospel. Therefore,
: the preaching of the crucified Christ alone would lead to true repentance.
: Repentance from sin was not about recognizing that one had violated the Law
: but that one had done harm to the Son of Man, who laid down His life for the
: salvation of sinners."
: 這段對反律主義論點的描繪，跟板上會所弟兄表述的幾乎一致。
幾乎一致？
我們說法是律法暴露人的罪請問是樓上還是樓下說法？
我們說法是律法使人知道不在靈中，需要轉回靈裡是樓上還是樓下說法？
我們可以看見th如何不斷一個謊言又一個謊言
: 並非罪大惡極，甚至頗有說服力，但就是怪怪的。
: 至於路德怎麼回應？
: "For Luther, if one would lose the proclamation of the Law, one would also
: lose the sweet gospel which sets sinners free from condemnation. He said, “
: Yet it is safest to turn to a middle road, to turn too much neither to the
: right nor to the left. For both are dangerous, and, as I said already, for
: this reason also, the office of the word was instituted, that we might teach
: both, that is, the Law and the Gospel. The one cannot properly be taught or
: dealt with safely without the other…So here too one must divide well, lest
: only one part be taught in the churches—either fear and sorrow or
: consolation and joy—but both at the same time.”[4] Both Law and Gospel are
: necessary for repentance: the Law which works contrition (sorrow for sin) an
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: the Gospel which works faith in the promise of forgiveness.
: Is there a need for the preaching of the Law? Should pastors proclaim the La
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: in their sermons? Does the Law play a role in repentance? Yes. “The Law
: reveals the guilt of sin And makes us conscience-stricken; But then the
: Gospel enters in The sinful soul to quicken.”[5] As we remain in the fallen
: flesh we will have need for God’s holy Law, not as a means to make ourselve
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: righteous but in order that we take hold of the depth of Christ’s saving
: work for us, delivered in the Gospel message of forgiveness."
: 其他的部份請再自行閱讀連結全文。
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