[活動] E7甲王點陸航試算

[yichenglee (掰咖一個月當四年殭屍)]

「這次E7斬殺 陸航有一堆流派 到底哪一派比較好呢」

然後發現光是用想的不可能想出來 所以我就自己寫了一個小程式來模擬

王點互角線153、劣勢77

一、第一波劣勢流

組合A

64>>+34>>+34>>+大艇     制空143
54>>+34>>+14>>+PBY      制空109
14>>+野中>>+銀河>>+22>> 制空56←以下這組稱為56

第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,67.72%,32.28%,0.00%
第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,32.03%,67.97%,0.00%
第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,57.47%,42.53%,0.00%
第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,6.17%,78.92%,14.91%
第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,12.15%,75.83%,12.02%
本隊制空:338,169,75,38

A-1
同組合A 但攻擊機制空全部歸零

64>>+34+34+大艇     制空135
54>>+34+14+PBY      制空102
14+野中+銀河+22     制空44

第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,42.81%,57.19%,0.00%
第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,17.23%,82.77%,0.00%
第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,37.11%,62.89%,0.00%
第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.48%,34.70%,64.81%
第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,1.62%,36.60%,61.78%
本隊制空:387,194,86,43

A-2 
同A 但熟練剩一半(|||)

64>>+34|||+34|||+大艇           制空139
56>>+34|||+14|||+PBY            制空106
14|||+野中|||+銀河|||+22|||     制空52

第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,54.39%,45.61%,0.00%
第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,25.10%,74.90%,0.00%
第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,49.02%,50.98%,0.00%
第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,3.33%,66.90%,29.77%
第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,7.05%,67.43%,25.51%
本隊制空:355,178,79,40

組合B 
A的一二隊互換

54>>+34>>+14>>+PBY      制空109
64>>+34>>+34>>+大艇     制空143
56                      制空56

第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00%
第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,94.09%,5.91%,0.00%
第四波結果:0.00%,0.09%,99.10%,0.81%,0.00%
第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,2.77%,88.55%,8.68%
第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,8.65%,84.36%,6.99%
本隊制空:322,161,72,36

B-1 
攻擊機熟練歸零
制空102
制空135
制空44

第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00%
第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,81.76%,18.24%,0.00%
第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,95.82%,4.18%,0.00%
第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.03%,55.34%,44.64%
第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.55%,58.00%,41.44%
本隊制空:352,176,79,40

B-2 
熟練|||

制空106
制空139
制空52

第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00%
第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,88.64%,11.36%,0.00%
第四波結果:0.00%,0.01%,97.98%,2.01%,0.00%
第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,1.06%,81.41%,17.52%
第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,4.47%,80.44%,15.09%
本隊制空:331,166,74,37

結論：

1. 第一隊能劣勢就好，制空值要全灌在第二隊上，這樣第五六波的空喪率最低

2. 熟練還是練一下比較好 

3. 幫用組合A還刷熟練的人QQ 得到的效果和組合B不刷熟練差不多

第一波互角流

組合C

大艇+隼III>>+54>>+34>>   制空172
PBY +64>>   +34>>+34>>   制空143
56

第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00%,0.00%
第三波結果:0.00%,0.03%,97.22%,2.75%,0.00%
第四波結果:0.00%,8.51%,91.11%,0.38%,0.00%
第五波結果:0.00%,0.02%,16.03%,80.01%,3.94%
第六波結果:0.00%,0.34%,26.77%,69.67%,3.23%
本隊制空:275,138,61,31

C-2 
攻擊機(ry

大艇+隼III>>+54>>+34   制空168
PBY +64>>   +34  +34   制空135
44

第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00%,0.00%
第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,91.77%,8.23%,0.00%
第四波結果:0.00%,5.25%,92.84%,1.91%,0.00%
第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,3.33%,72.86%,23.81%
第六波結果:0.00%,0.02%,6.95%,71.36%,21.67%
本隊制空:294,147,66,33

C-3
|||

制空170
制空139
制空52

第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00%,0.00%
第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,94.89%,5.11%,0.00%
第四波結果:0.00%,6.19%,92.89%,0.92%,0.00%
第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,10.62%,81.25%,8.13%
第六波結果:0.00%,0.08%,19.41%,73.60%,6.91%
本隊制空:280,140,63,32

結論：

雖然看起來好像不錯 但要注意這樣派少了一攻擊機 總體期望值有沒有比較高...

我不知道 _(:3 」∠ )_

組合D 

十一攻擊機空喪流
三四>>*3=60
56
14>>*4=44

第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00%
第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00%
第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00%
第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00%
第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00%
本隊制空:601,301,134,67

What are you expecting?
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如果內文沒有你的組合 歡迎在推文推

(第一隊制空,第二隊制空,第三隊制空) e.x.(109,143,56)

http://kancollecalc.web.fc2.com/air_supremacy.html 可以幫你算制空

我可以幫你算結果

只限甲級

因為我不想改code了 _(:3 」∠ )_

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→ tomalex: (′・ω・‵) 算
推 tomalex: 算個有無熟2版 http://i.imgur.com/AHCc2qo.png
有熟
第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00%
第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,93.89%,6.11%,0.00%
第四波結果:0.00%,0.09%,99.09%,0.81%,0.00%
第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,6.02%,89.88%,4.10%
第六波結果:0.00%,0.01%,15.42%,81.50%,3.07%
本隊制空:317,159,71,36

無熟
第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00%
第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,81.73%,18.27%,0.00%
第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,95.79%,4.21%,0.00%
第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.35%,69.38%,30.28%
第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,2.07%,70.57%,27.36%
本隊制空:342,171,76,38
→ yichenglee: 托馬自己點計算機啦_(:3 」∠ )_我忙到連GoT都忘記抓
推 tomalex: (′・ω・‵) 在那邊
加在內文了_(:3 」∠ )_不過我已經算好惹
推 tomalex: (′・ω・‵) 這是哪些空喪率?
→ yichenglee: [空確、空優、互角、劣勢、空喪]的機率
推 tomalex: (′・ω・‵) 感謝
(′・ω・‵)b
推 Mosin: 146,44,56  滿熟版
第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,77.41%,22.59%,0.00%
第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,5.70%,94.30%
第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,7.33%,92.67%
第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.21%,49.63%,50.16%
第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,1.33%,54.01%,44.66%
本隊制空:443,222,99,50
推 Mosin: 謝謝，請問本隊制空是取中位數或加權平均之類的?
→ yichenglee: 算術平均數
推 Mosin: 取PR75 50 25之類的不知會不會更有幫助?
寫得出來 但是看起來實在是亂到不行 FailFish
本隊Q3制空:534,267,119,60
本隊平均制空:438,219,98,49
本隊Q1制空:312,156,70,35
→ yichenglee: 四分位數啊...我想想看
推 Mosin: 這程式挺實用的，也可由進王時本隊制空去算空優、確保機率
推 jerry78424: #1OpwsiI9 供參考
我之前看過...然後看不懂日文用不來orz
推 RYLin123: https://imgur.com/J3AwhDF 求這組_(:3」∠)_
→ RYLin123: 全滿熟
第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,67.75%,32.26%,0.00%
第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,53.78%,46.22%
第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,59.88%,40.12%
第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,33.81%,66.19%
第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.02%,36.30%,63.69%
本隊平均制空:429,215,96,48
我覺得你不如學托馬那樣配_(:3」∠)_
推 Mosin: 樓上那組把一式*4拉到一隊先加減削一點制空，再接大艇隊
第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,100.00%
第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,17.59%,82.41%,0.00%
第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,87.85%,12.15%,0.00%
第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.04%,71.59%,28.37%
第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.56%,75.78%,23.66%
本隊平均制空:420,210,94,47
→ Mosin: 因為那三隊跟我的差不多...最佳順序應該是4一式>大艇>野中
你是對的 因為滿熟練64+34*2很接近互角線 這個組合放中間是最好的
第一隊就是要讓下駟對上駟
推 RYLin123: 感謝了ヽ(:3ﾉ ヽ)ﾉ
推 rex456852: 懶人包左一那組滿熟呢(′・ω・‵)?
54+64+34那一組嗎(′・ω・‵)?
第二波結果:0.00%,0.00%,100.00%,0.00%,0.00%
第三波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.00%,75.48%,24.52%
第四波結果:0.00%,0.00%,1.14%,77.84%,21.02%
第五波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.29%,55.68%,44.03%
第六波結果:0.00%,0.00%,0.74%,58.11%,41.16%
本隊Q3制空:456,228,102,51
本隊平均制空:365,183,81,41
推 jerry78424: 先送兩波喪失，這個我不行
→ rex456852: 感謝 沒想到比想像中糟耶 100%均 75%劣 55%劣
推 jerry78424: 提一下，大艇的熟練也有制空
→ rex456852: 除了戰鬥機以外大家都是3ω
那3點影響不大 這次真要說應該是有第四架對空3的陸攻影響最顯著

第五波空喪率可以從1/12(組合B)降到1/25(托馬滿熟組)  (′・ω・‵)
※ 編輯: yichenglee (61.231.49.189), 08/29/2017 02:07:46
→ tomalex: (′・ω・‵) 滿熟